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Post by camkerr on Jul 5, 2011 9:53:50 GMT -5
This wasn't on here anywhere so I thought I'd make a new thread www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-beach-volleyball-20110705,0,1323375.story?track=rss&dlvrit=104530 Quote from the article: The Jose Cuervo Pro Beach Volleyball Series will move from Manhattan Beach to Miami Beach on Sept. 9-11 and ends at Hermosa Beach on Sept. 23-25. The $500,000 purse will be split among the three tournaments. The Manhattan Open will be worth $200,000 and the other two worth $150,000 each. Those winnings will match the biggest from the AVP Tour in the last few years, and exceed what players have been playing for this summer. The Corona Light Wide Open Tour, a series of five tournaments worth a total of $425,000 in purses, has filled in for the AVP. </End Quote> Edit: Looks like every single one of their events overlaps with an NVL event, but none overlap with Corona's. www.killontwo.com/news/2011/7/5/jose-cuervo-pro-beach-volleyball-series.html
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Post by camkerr on Jul 5, 2011 15:15:46 GMT -5
Update: The Miami event will NOT overlap with The NVL Miami event.
I've added a follow up post with the new dates.
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Post by mjnaleva on Jul 6, 2011 21:04:29 GMT -5
It's good to see that USAV was able to formalize something for this year. Ultimately, IMG will be running the events and hopefully the alliance will produce some very high quality results. Having some TV coverage is always nice too.
After hearing the Dave Williams interview on the NET Live show, I have to agree more now that USAV is tasked as the governing body with a lot of stuff and it's unrealistic to expect them to drive the execution of a huge tour on the scale of AVP back in its hey day. While I personally am not a fan of lots of different tours it may ultimately need to be that way for a bit until either the tours decide to combine into a single-branded tour, which in an idealic world where everyone wants to work together even if that means relinquishing some control would be possible, or someone with the money and resources just seizes control of things, which in a capitalistic system is what usually happens. In any case, it's not a quick and simple process. The sport is basically building from scratch again at the pro-level at least.
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Post by stevek on Jul 6, 2011 21:39:59 GMT -5
There are no FIVB events in the month of September, so all the teams that have been overseas this summer will have several state side events that they can choose to play in, if they want to - one CLWO (Cincinatti), three NVL events (Aspen, Miami and LBC) and two IMG/USAV events (Miami and Hermosa). I wonder where/if they'll play. Interestingly, in this USA today article - www.usatoday.com/sports/college/volleyball/2011-07-06-2932208572_x.htmTodd/Phil and Kerri/Misty say they will skip the USAV events "to concentrate on the international tour." They could have just been talking about Manhattan beach, but who knows. I believe I have seen both Kessy/Ross and Fuerby say they will play in the NVL when they can. All in all, it will be interesting to see what happens.
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Post by richharris55 on Jul 6, 2011 22:15:41 GMT -5
From the outside looking in I feel terrible for Al-B. It seamed he really tried to step up when nobody else was. He got his tour rolling and with a schedule. This will hurt his efforts I think. These Cuervo events that hold potential "trials" implications kinda force top teams to play in them.
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Post by johnbar on Jul 6, 2011 22:31:21 GMT -5
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Post by camkerr on Jul 7, 2011 14:17:01 GMT -5
Is Versus a channel that most people get in the US, or is it more of a specialty channel that you have to order with an upgraded cable package?
The reason I ask is that with NBC previously covering the AVP events, it seems as if they are testing the televised volleyball market out again by starting it on one of their child stations. Is this station fairly widespread, or are only people who subscribe to premium cable packages able to get it?
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Post by albatross on Jul 7, 2011 14:29:37 GMT -5
I don't get cable, just over the air TV. I get NBC and, interestingly enough, Universal Sports, but no Versus.
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Post by klazk on Jul 7, 2011 14:31:18 GMT -5
I used to have Dish TV and now have cable. Versus was only available on upgraded packages on Dish and is only available on upgraded packages for cable in my area.
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Post by geddyleemarvin on Jul 7, 2011 14:41:35 GMT -5
Versus has always been part of the basic cable package for me. Now that NBC owns Versus, and is planning on re-branding it as an NBC Sports channel, I'd imagine that Versus/NBC Sports will become part of basic cable in the near future (i.e., before the 2012 Olympics).
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Post by camkerr on Jul 7, 2011 15:51:32 GMT -5
Well, it appears that OLN in Canada has *some* Versus content, if I can hook up a stream, you know where to find it.
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Post by tinman2 on Jul 10, 2011 8:02:20 GMT -5
I also feel bad for the NVL and Al-B. With ALL the dates and cities a tourney could be held in, why would USAV pick Miami on the same date in the first place? That is blatantly wrong to the NVL and all the struggling beach volleyball players in the USA. Other countries governing organizations HELP their players. What the helll was this guy thinking?
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Post by klazk on Jul 10, 2011 9:05:40 GMT -5
The tournaments are on back-to-back weekends in Miami. The original announcement was either wrong or adjusted. NVL is September 9-11. USAV/IMG/Cuervo is September 16-18. They are bookending the fashion event in Miami.
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Post by Semp12 on Jul 10, 2011 9:43:53 GMT -5
The tournaments are on back-to-back weekends in Miami. The original announcement was either wrong or adjusted. NVL is September 9-11. USAV/IMG/Cuervo is September 16-18. They are bookending the fashion event in Miami. This can actually be good for both tours, as top players can fly out and stay for the week and a half and get in two big tournaments. I would expect the turnouts to be pretty good for both.
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Post by volleyballjim on Jul 10, 2011 11:10:54 GMT -5
Dave Williams' interview on Net.Live (7/5) sure was nice to hear in the arena of scrambling tours....He seemed to work with the CLWO & NVL to schedule such that no one loses out.....It really is ONE group of players nationally we want to see, whatever venue put them in the forefront is good and more is better.....
I just wish SOMEBODY could understand the need to get player recognition...I guess its that way in any sport, but geezzz, I remember walking around Hermosa looking up at someone and having to try and read his shorts to know who he was.....OK, OK, the SF Giants don't have player names on the back of their home team uniform, but they have reached a pinnacle where you can "do that", but pro-volleyball...?
Promoters, Players, agents, et. al.: Start getting some faces out there with a mechanism to identify them so someone has SOMEONE to root for other than the "usual" (Todd, Phil, Kerry, Misty (nothing against them, but...) at all these new venues coming up in Sept & Oct....
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