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Post by swingaway on Jan 31, 2007 16:59:10 GMT -5
On all team stats I read, the games played has an obvious effect on certain numbers. The question is, why does a player get charged for a game when they are a designated server?
It obviously is not a problem for players who start all year, but I know of some players who have played every game for their team although a large percentage is only as a server, once or twice a game. No swings yet their kills per game gets hammered.
I think the national stats total last year required 3 swings to count hitting %, why not for KPG?
Not the end of the world but I'm curious.
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Post by bunnywailer on Jan 31, 2007 17:09:14 GMT -5
The requirement for keeping stats on a player is game entry. So if a player enters the game at all, it will show up on the stat sheet. Same thing with basketball, if a player checks into the game, they make the stat sheet. Except in basketball, the stat tracking shows "minutes played" instead of "games played".
Conceivably, if a player subs into every game of the match and doesn't serve, doesn't make a dig, doesn't make any attempts in any stat areas, then they could show GP as 5, and then zeros all the way across the rest of their stat line.
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Post by fingrbustr on Jan 31, 2007 18:32:21 GMT -5
Just to add my $0.02 to what Skynard touched on (basketball example), 'minutes played' in volleyball wouldn't work b/c of the infinite time allowed for a game (although game duration is much easier to predict now w/ rally scoring). So, to truly judge somebody's performance, I'd say you would have to track their individual contributions (stats) against WHAT IS common in all games (points). That would be a more accurate reflection of what they incrementally contribute on average. But then you'd get into problems with games that go over 30pts (inflates stats, just like NBA overtime games), and worse still, WHAT POINT INTERVAL (eg, points 1-7? points 8-15?) their stat-stuffing occurred in (it is truth that some players' effectivenss is directly correlated with WHAT STAGE of the game they are in). Moral? Aaaaaargh...stats in sports...can enlighten you or mislead you...just depends on what you want to see
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Post by Rocky on Jan 31, 2007 19:01:45 GMT -5
Stats in volleyball is very tough. If you use points - it would work for some positions, but it will not work for libero. The games played, not matches played, is probably the best to use. The guys that go in as a serving or blocking specialist are probably not looking to be tops in the stat area anyway. They usually know their role and most are happy to be on the team and hoping to get on the floor. When they are called upon they do everything they can to make the most of it.
One other thing that is different with the men's ball is the number of subs allowed. If you go in the game as a specialist you know this is your "chance for fame".
Just my $.02 worth . . .
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