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Post by volleyballhawk on Aug 7, 2012 15:28:26 GMT -5
This is a good opportunity to ask this question, since we have followers of both the men's and women's game in this forum... Why do women run the slide SO often? And, if it's so successful for the women, how come that doesn't translate to the men? I've never seen a men's team run a slide, other than maybe a crappy high school team. But, women middles seem to run it every time the setter is front row.
Just wondering what some other peoples' thoughts are.
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Post by ciscokeed on Aug 7, 2012 15:53:35 GMT -5
Men are just flat out better blockers...Unless a slide is run really fast, the men's block can catch up and grab the ball, in the women's game the left side blockers rarely catch up, and they don't have the hang time to grab the ball ( with some exceptions)
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 7, 2012 15:54:05 GMT -5
Slide usually gets stuffed on the men's side, also it interferes with the opp's D-Ball attack. I predict as women get better and better at blocking (and the back row attack becomes moreand more important) that it will become much less common on the women's sid.e
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Post by Phaedrus on Aug 7, 2012 16:07:41 GMT -5
The advantage with the slide is that it gives the blocker and the defenders a different look. Whereas a regular approach and hit comes at an angle to the net, the defenders can extrapolate where the termination point with the hitter, so the blockers can read the hitter and go to that spot. The slide however, has the hitter running parallel to the net and the termination point is dependent on how far the hitter pushes towards the ball and where they actually make contact with the ball.
With the advent of the swing block, the blockers can start pinched and move the block going towards the pin at a much higher speed, there is less chance of the blocker guessing because his block is more dependent on his reaction than his read. He now is more dependent on his ability to get outside faster and reacting to the hitter's swing than if he were shuffling and going to a pre-determined spot. So, better blocking means less success for the slide.
Now, running the double slide like the USA team does, adds a bit of complexity. i would like to see how the good men blockers deal with that wrinkle. I don't think the slide will ever leave the women's game even as women get better as blockers.
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Post by Will Rogers Beach on Aug 7, 2012 16:13:52 GMT -5
Alison did a slide in their BVB match against Latvia. It was pretty cool!
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Post by Pirate VB Fan on Aug 7, 2012 16:30:00 GMT -5
I realize they are the same thing, but I get quite tired of the announcers saying "step out" instead of slide.
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Post by cvbc14 on Aug 7, 2012 17:17:16 GMT -5
I've always figured because men never wanted to perfect the slide is the reason you don't see it. For the most part high level mens teams are very effective at high ball to the pin, quick in the middle, and back row attacks. There is no reason to introduce (and spend time training) a different attack. The womens game however has many more rallies and relies more on being creative to win points, therefore you see many different types of sets.
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Post by volleyballhawk on Aug 7, 2012 18:56:47 GMT -5
Do many women's teams set a D ball? I haven't watched too much our our women's team. Regarding the slide, I've always wanted to see a basketball player turned volleyball player run the slide for a high level men's team. Bballers are trained to jump off one foot, where volleyball players hardly ever do.
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Post by Sbilo on Aug 7, 2012 19:04:32 GMT -5
I've seen one team I think it was Egypt or Iran in the World Championships 2010 that had the running back slide as part of their offense. Of course it was blocked consistently as opposing teams have time to set up that wall.
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