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Post by ocbbth on Oct 21, 2014 7:53:48 GMT -5
You should not ask for your release until after the season is over. When the season is over she should ask for a meeting with the coach at his earliest convnience. Then she should respectfully say that she has decided that this is not the best fit for her, and she would like her release to pursue other options. I disagree with this advice. As a coach (I have coached Div 1, 2, and 3) I would much rather the player be honest and upfront as early as possible. By telling the coach early you can give them a chance to rectify the problem before it is to late. You are also be respectful of the programs needs; this allows the coach to know early that they have a scholarship available they were not counting on having. If the coach is reasonable they will appreciate knowing early so they can have time to make decisions and maybe rectify with the player. If the coach is unreasonable, and perhaps they are if things are as bad as they sound, then what is the worst that can happen by telling them early? They player gets benched for the season, isn't that already happening? The player gets kicked off the team; isn't that what they want anyway? If you are reasonable and respectful the coach should appreciate this and give you your release. If they are not, you can always go over their head and contact the AD and tell them what has happened, the AD can step in and "force" the coach to give the release.
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Post by OptimusPrime on Oct 21, 2014 12:37:51 GMT -5
You should not ask for your release until after the season is over. When the season is over she should ask for a meeting with the coach at his earliest convnience. Then she should respectfully say that she has decided that this is not the best fit for her, and she would like her release to pursue other options. I disagree with this advice. As a coach (I have coached Div 1, 2, and 3) I would much rather the player be honest and upfront as early as possible. By telling the coach early you can give them a chance to rectify the problem before it is to late. You are also be respectful of the programs needs; this allows the coach to know early that they have a scholarship available they were not counting on having. If the coach is reasonable they will appreciate knowing early so they can have time to make decisions and maybe rectify with the player. If the coach is unreasonable, and perhaps they are if things are as bad as they sound, then what is the worst that can happen by telling them early? They player gets benched for the season, isn't that already happening? The player gets kicked off the team; isn't that what they want anyway? If you are reasonable and respectful the coach should appreciate this and give you your release. If they are not, you can always go over their head and contact the AD and tell them what has happened, the AD can step in and "force" the coach to give the release. Yes and No! You have to know your coach before deciding when to ask for a release ESPECIALLY if you are a starter! Honorable coaches will not bench you and try and work it out or ask you to complete your season and they will grant you the release after the season is over. However, there are those who will immediately bench you or ask you to remove your belongings immediately and escort you out of the locker rooms in front of your teammates! Yes it has happened a few times. One just happened this season! The scholarship is secure and most likely the athlete gets to keep the scholarship if he/she wants to remain in the school for that year. If the player is not a starter, the coaches are usually "nicer" about the release request and will work with the students to find them a better fit but there is no guarantee there either. KNOW your coach and find out how previous transfers have been handled by the coaches. Ask the transferees and not the current players!! Sometimes they are afraid to tell the truth
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Post by volleyballfanatic on Oct 21, 2014 21:38:38 GMT -5
I think that quitting your team in the middle of the conference schedule is a bad idea. If your daughter has gone thrugh 4 months of practice/play, why not wait one more month? Is the coach going to recruit a replacement in November?
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Post by ocbbth on Oct 24, 2014 10:15:15 GMT -5
I disagree with this advice. As a coach (I have coached Div 1, 2, and 3) I would much rather the player be honest and upfront as early as possible. By telling the coach early you can give them a chance to rectify the problem before it is to late. You are also be respectful of the programs needs; this allows the coach to know early that they have a scholarship available they were not counting on having. If the coach is reasonable they will appreciate knowing early so they can have time to make decisions and maybe rectify with the player. If the coach is unreasonable, and perhaps they are if things are as bad as they sound, then what is the worst that can happen by telling them early? They player gets benched for the season, isn't that already happening? The player gets kicked off the team; isn't that what they want anyway? If you are reasonable and respectful the coach should appreciate this and give you your release. If they are not, you can always go over their head and contact the AD and tell them what has happened, the AD can step in and "force" the coach to give the release. Yes and No! You have to know your coach before deciding when to ask for a release ESPECIALLY if you are a starter! Honorable coaches will not bench you and try and work it out or ask you to complete your season and they will grant you the release after the season is over. However, there are those who will immediately bench you or ask you to remove your belongings immediately and escort you out of the locker rooms in front of your teammates! Yes it has happened a few times. One just happened this season! The scholarship is secure and most likely the athlete gets to keep the scholarship if he/she wants to remain in the school for that year. If the player is not a starter, the coaches are usually "nicer" about the release request and will work with the students to find them a better fit but there is no guarantee there either. KNOW your coach and find out how previous transfers have been handled by the coaches. Ask the transferees and not the current players!! Sometimes they are afraid to tell the truth I can see your point here. It does make a difference who the coach is, and knowing how they might react may dictate waiting until the end of season. Hopefully, they are somewhat reasonable, if you are unhappy, why would they want you as part of their program? I hope it all works out for the best, and that the coach sees some reason!
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Post by bluecollar on Oct 24, 2014 22:42:18 GMT -5
I think that quitting your team in the middle of the conference schedule is a bad idea. If your daughter has gone thrugh 4 months of practice/play, why not wait one more month? Is the coach going to recruit a replacement in November? Speaking as a college coach, yes it is easier to start looking in October than waiting a month. There are less players available each day. She is not quitting, she is letting the coach know that she intends to leave after the season is over or at the end of the school year. If the coach elects not to play her, that is his/her choice. Earlier gives her more options and the coach more options. It is the right thing to do. I would be very upset if one of my players knew and waited to tell me. They know they are leaving and are probably doing some discreet searching while the coach is in the dark for another month.
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Post by volleyballfanatic on Oct 25, 2014 8:40:01 GMT -5
If the player knows that the coach is going to handle it professionally and are open to dialog, I agree with you. It sounds like that you are that kind of coach and I respect you for that. I know of other coaches that would not handle it that same way. If there is a risk that the player is going to be penalized by being benched or bad mouthed when other coaches come calling, it is better to wait.
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Post by bluecollar on Oct 25, 2014 23:45:58 GMT -5
The longer she waits the less scholarships available for her. The sooner she tells the coach the sooner she can start openly looking for a new home. If the coach benches her, that won't hurt her chances of transferring. The bad mouthing most likely won't hurt her either if the school looking at her believes that she can help them win. I still think it is in her best interest to do it sooner.
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Post by oldbro on Oct 26, 2014 21:34:47 GMT -5
I have a hard time thinking that the coach is a terrible, horrible person if he doesn't play a player that informs him of her intent to leave the team at the end of the season. If another player that will need to fill her spot is already on the roster and can use the playing time to improve for future seasons without hurting the team's overall chances to win and play well, then why shouldn't the committed player get to play? Every circumstance is different of course but the coach isn't automatically an awful coach or person by choosing to play another player.
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Post by bayarea on Nov 5, 2014 17:40:10 GMT -5
It's probably about time for a new 2015 Transfer thread...
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Post by thehustler on Nov 11, 2014 15:56:34 GMT -5
I agree on starting the 2015 transfer thread...some of us coaches need some leads :-)
And about the comment on when a player should tell a coach. You should let them know as soon as possible, I think we spend too much time worrying about the coach's response. If a coach truly cares about their players as a person; you would hope/think the coach would be okay with the player trying to find their happiness. It's part of college athletics, you are lucky/blessed these days to see every freshman last all four years. So many factors go into this you just never know... And yes I am a college coach and it's frustrating to go through process of starting over unexpectedly but it's part of the job definitely not the fun part, but it is what it is...
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Post by bayarea on Nov 13, 2014 18:57:06 GMT -5
There is a new 2015 Transfer thread started, but it's getting buried. Can we un-pin this one and pin the 2015 thread to the top instead?
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Post by Odin on Nov 14, 2014 17:35:38 GMT -5
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Post by tan05key on Nov 28, 2014 6:25:08 GMT -5
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