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Post by bc1900 on Dec 29, 2013 12:35:36 GMT -5
I think this is a great hire, and would be shocked if Bailey doesn't transfer to play for dad, heck maybe some other tstreet players will be transferring too. Pepperdine will be very good soon. Pepperdine has never hurt for good players - they have always had top recruiting classes. I think this is a great hire and I agree they will become very good very soon. Absolutely. Tanner has an impressive track record of success, from May/Walsh through TStreet, a club that went from nonexistent to elite/national caliber in about 5 years, right in the middle of the very competitive SoCal club volleyball market. I wouldn't be surprised if Bailey transfers down; she's played for her dad for years. Look for Pepperdine to be on the rise in the near future.
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 29, 2013 13:50:26 GMT -5
I honestly can't imagine players WANTING to spend their college years under the watchful eyes of the parents. It's one thing to be close to home, it's another entirely to see dad everyday, him knowing everytime you skip a class, anytime you kiss a boy or go to a party. Players are free to do what they want, but I always looked back at Lauren Cook and thought that she had some pretty big daddy issues, "event planning" be damned. I'd have to have some pretty big compelling reasons to want to spend my college years with my parents around. hopefully whatever transpires with Bailey, she does it for herself and what is actually best for her...not to make her dad happy Thought she had daddy issues? WTF are you talking about, what would you be basing that on? This isn't even opinion, its nonsense. Why would you think that or say that, given you don't know anything about either of the two people? Random 5th rate psycho-babble. Truth be told, she didn't transfer out of UCLA because of event planning, she transferred out because she grew up around a program where volleyball was celebrated, supported, and important to the school, community. She grew up around it being done right. While at UCLA she didn't see any of that, people were casual about vb, indifferent etc....... she wanted to be a part of something special. Her dad was not the draw believe me, she knew that would be hard, and her dad, didn't encourage her to come back either. "some daddy issues" is just a really stupid thing to say for someone who knows literally nothing about the situation or the two people he is commenting on. I mean come on, voice your opinion about volleyball, teams, matches, not inter-personal feelings of people you know nothing about. Its like me saying UW struggled vs PSU because a player wasn't nursed. Idiotic. So given that you attack me for my opinion of why she transferred and that it wasn't to be considered because I lacked personal connections with the Cook family (which is true), since you then proceeded to give us your understanding of why she transferred, does that then mean you do know a lot about the Cook family, and interact with them on a personal level? hmmmmm And people voice their opinions about "inter-personal" feelings of people all the time. so and so isn't getting along with such and such....she has attitude problems, blah blah blah...this kind of stuff gets posted all the time. If I were to say that the players at Iowa State have a great deal of respect, confidence, and loyalty to Christy Johnson-Lynch as a person, would that not be voicing an opinion about inter-personal feelings? Do I know this for sure? no...but because it's all rosey and gushy I doubt you would be standing on your pedestal telling people what they should and should not think and what they should and should not post. The problem is that your issue isn't really commenting about "inter-personal" feelings, it's just when they are comments about "inter-personal" feelings that you don't happen to agree with. I think LC is a fantastic player and JC is a fantastic coach...but that doesn't mean that all of the variables surrounding the transfer wasn't fishy, and perhaps other things were at play. I happen to think that there were, and the 1000th finger wagging post by keystonekid isn't gonna change that.
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Post by Vballin on Dec 29, 2013 16:13:30 GMT -5
Thought she had daddy issues? WTF are you talking about, what would you be basing that on? This isn't even opinion, its nonsense. Why would you think that or say that, given you don't know anything about either of the two people? Random 5th rate psycho-babble. Truth be told, she didn't transfer out of UCLA because of event planning, she transferred out because she grew up around a program where volleyball was celebrated, supported, and important to the school, community. She grew up around it being done right. While at UCLA she didn't see any of that, people were casual about vb, indifferent etc....... she wanted to be a part of something special. Her dad was not the draw believe me, she knew that would be hard, and her dad, didn't encourage her to come back either. "some daddy issues" is just a really stupid thing to say for someone who knows literally nothing about the situation or the two people he is commenting on. I mean come on, voice your opinion about volleyball, teams, matches, not inter-personal feelings of people you know nothing about. Its like me saying UW struggled vs PSU because a player wasn't nursed. Idiotic. So given that you attack me for my opinion of why she transferred and that it wasn't to be considered because I lacked personal connections with the Cook family (which is true), since you then proceeded to give us your understanding of why she transferred, does that then mean you do know a lot about the Cook family, and interact with them on a personal level? hmmmmm And people voice their opinions about "inter-personal" feelings of people all the time. so and so isn't getting along with such and such....she has attitude problems, blah blah blah...this kind of stuff gets posted all the time. If I were to say that the players at Iowa State have a great deal of respect, confidence, and loyalty to Christy Johnson-Lynch as a person, would that not be voicing an opinion about inter-personal feelings? Do I know this for sure? no...but because it's all rosey and gushy I doubt you would be standing on your pedestal telling people what they should and should not think and what they should and should not post. The problem is that your issue isn't really commenting about "inter-personal" feelings, it's just when they are comments about "inter-personal" feelings that you don't happen to agree with. I think LC is a fantastic player and JC is a fantastic coach...but that doesn't mean that all of the variables surrounding the transfer wasn't fishy, and perhaps other things were at play. I happen to think that there were, and the 1000th finger wagging post by keystonekid isn't gonna change that. If you were to say "that the players at Iowa State have a great deal of respect, confidence, and loyalty to Christy Johnson-Lynch as ..." you would NOT be stating your opinion. You would be stating it as a fact. If you say " I bet or believe the players at Iowa State...., that would be opinion. There is a difference. The first example implies first hand knowledge.
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Post by spikerwest10 on Dec 29, 2013 17:22:00 GMT -5
Interesting hire. No doubt, A lot of success but no women's vb college coaching. That may work against him or it may not affect him at all.
He recruited really well at tstreet but that may eventually hurt him as not many club coaches in so cal have a good relationship, especially when you have premier kids stolen from you.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Dec 29, 2013 18:43:49 GMT -5
How likely or unlikely a transfer is remains to be seen. There is an obvious prior connection (father and coach). Pepperdine would be a step down, from the Pac-12 to the WCC, however. Vansant and Tanner have also become best buds.
I'm guessing that Tanner will need to divest himself of any ownership interest or leadership role in TStreet - it'll still be a GM2 club, I assume, although it could undergo a name change (assuming "T" means "Tanner"). Other club owners/directors will be happy that he's stepped upstairs and to send their players to him.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Dec 29, 2013 19:04:39 GMT -5
How likely or unlikely a transfer is remains to be seen. There is an obvious prior connection (father and coach). Pepperdine would be a step down, from the Pac-12 to the WCC, however. Vansant and Tanner have also become best buds. I'm guessing that Tanner will need to divest himself of any ownership interest or leadership role in TStreet - it'll still be a GM2 club, I assume, although it could undergo a name change (assuming "T" means "Tanner"). Other club owners/directors will be happy that he's stepped upstairs and to send their players to him. The club is named after a well known surfing spot in San Clemente. Summer Ross and Vansant were BFFs at UW (still are) too, didn't make much difference. That said, I haven't the slightest idea whether Bailey would have any interest in transferring. I'm certainly not in the camp of "it's her dad, of course she'll transfer!" It's rarely that simple. But Pepperdine does have its charms, to be sure.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Dec 29, 2013 19:30:02 GMT -5
How likely or unlikely a transfer is remains to be seen. There is an obvious prior connection (father and coach). Pepperdine would be a step down, from the Pac-12 to the WCC, however. Vansant and Tanner have also become best buds. I'm guessing that Tanner will need to divest himself of any ownership interest or leadership role in TStreet - it'll still be a GM2 club, I assume, although it could undergo a name change (assuming "T" means "Tanner"). Other club owners/directors will be happy that he's stepped upstairs and to send their players to him. The club is named after a well known surfing spot in San Clemente. Summer Ross and Vansant were BFFs at UW (still are) too, didn't make much difference. Not really the case. They were part of the same two-person recruiting class and thus were often paired in the media, but weren't particularly tight, other than being teammates. Vansant and Tanner are.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Dec 29, 2013 20:12:39 GMT -5
The club is named after a well known surfing spot in San Clemente. Summer Ross and Vansant were BFFs at UW (still are) too, didn't make much difference. Not really the case. They were part of the same two-person recruiting class and thus were often paired in the media, but weren't particularly tight, other than being teammates. Vansant and Tanner are. Way off. Sorry. Anyway, my larger point is that being buddy-buddy with someone isn't necessarily much of a deterrent. Dozens and dozens of players have left programs despite having a bestie or two on the old squad.
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 29, 2013 22:26:04 GMT -5
Not really the case. They were part of the same two-person recruiting class and thus were often paired in the media, but weren't particularly tight, other than being teammates. Vansant and Tanner are. Way off. Sorry. Anyway, my larger point is that being buddy-buddy with someone isn't necessarily much of a deterrent. Dozens and dozens of players have left programs despite having a bestie or two on the old squad. Which is the same reason why I don't see a reason why this would mean a transfer. Personal ties are nice, but sometimes you need to make decisions that are more based on individual needs. Bailey has played under her father for years now. I would think she has more to learn and more chance to grow under another coach. But in the end it will not be decided by people like us pontificating on Volleytalk. She'll do whatever seems best to her.
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Post by downtheline on Dec 29, 2013 22:41:58 GMT -5
Congrats to both Troy and Pepperdine. Both parties must feel like a home coming.
Coach Tanner is a great person, family man, business man, and in this case most important a great volleyball coach and mentor, IMHO .
Over the years he shared sage advise regarding players , schools, coaches and the game. That drive from San Clemente to Pepperdine is going to be brutal. Perhaps Nina will let him pitch a tent on her ranch in the Malibu mountains.
I can see SoCal girls he has coached now thinking about Pepperdine. And Rebecca back setting his daughter on the rightside, I'll give odds on that.
Look for T-Street Westside coming soon.
Good luck to coach and players.
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Post by kokyu on Dec 29, 2013 23:02:41 GMT -5
Interesting hire. No doubt, A lot of success but no women's vb college coaching. That may work against him or it may not affect him at all. I read this not infrequently here regarding former players becoming D1 coaches and it's a really absurd idea.
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Post by BeiBei on Dec 30, 2013 0:05:20 GMT -5
I happen to think that there were, and the 1000th finger wagging post by keystonekid isn't gonna change that. I thought Keystonekid left Volleytalk long time ago and said he will not return
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Post by Cruz'n on Dec 30, 2013 0:57:54 GMT -5
Not sure the reason for Lauren Cook transfering to where her daddy was coaching, but it was good for UCLA. Van Orden took over at setter, did an incredible job, and within a year won the National Championship.
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Post by BeiBei on Dec 30, 2013 1:46:42 GMT -5
Not sure the reason for Lauren Cook transfering to where her daddy was coaching, but it was good for UCLA. Van Orden took over at setter, did an incredible job, and within a year won the National Championship. I think she also thought she had a better chance at winning a NC at Nebraska than UCLA. Had Nebraska won it all this year, she will probably be devastated
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 30, 2013 4:09:01 GMT -5
I happen to think that there were, and the 1000th finger wagging post by keystonekid isn't gonna change that. I thought Keystonekid left Volleytalk long time ago and said he will not return well.... sometimes people don't tend to follow through with that they say they are going to do. Personally, I happen to like the guy, and he knows this, old spats notwithstanding.
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