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Post by chisovnik on Apr 22, 2014 20:55:22 GMT -5
Yes, this is for real. Carlini is a great setter, but Juley is as well. It will be interesting. I can see Sheffield doing a 6-2. This is just sad.
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Post by chisovnik on Apr 22, 2014 21:02:21 GMT -5
So elsewhere or earlier on this thread there was a discussion by others, for example, Dorothy, that if Karch thinks Carlini should play for the national team, she should play for the national team. So it would be possible her college career could be shorter or fractured. Ever hear of excess insurance? That's insurance to cover catastrophic losses not covered by your basic insurance. So I would guess Sheffield is utilizing the excess insurance policy in the event for 2014 and 2015 he needs a setter. I'm sure Juley knows exactly what she is getting into. And also, there are lots of players riding the bench for Penn State that would be starting somewhere else. This isn't different. People want to be associated with national or high profile programs. And it doesn't hurt to be closer to home. Difference is, those players started at penn state. They didn't transfer from programs where they were starters. I'm not saying academics wise it was a bad decision. Wiscosnin is a great school, but if people are correct, one of them will be on schollie and one will be walk on and it might be her. Is it worth paying your own way (assuming she's not in scholarship)? Again, it's obvious that this transfer was not volleyball-related. Juley's not going in there thinking she can take Carlini's spot. Why do you insist on complicating everything?
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 22, 2014 21:07:48 GMT -5
Difference is, those players started at penn state. They didn't transfer from programs where they were starters. I'm not saying academics wise it was a bad decision. Wiscosnin is a great school, but if people are correct, one of them will be on schollie and one will be walk on and it might be her. Is it worth paying your own way (assuming she's not in scholarship)? Again, it's obvious that this transfer was not volleyball-related. Juley's not going in there thinking she can take Carlini's spot. Why do you insist on complicating everything? I simply stated was it worth it. I even said I don't know the reason she transfered. I had something in my mind about it being with brian g, but didn't wanna start speculation on the board. It was just confusing for me to see someone losing a scholorship to pay their own way. Thats all.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 22, 2014 21:10:49 GMT -5
Difference is, those players started at penn state. They didn't transfer from programs where they were starters. I'm not saying academics wise it was a bad decision. Wiscosnin is a great school, but if people are correct, one of them will be on schollie and one will be walk on and it might be her. Is it worth paying your own way (assuming she's not in scholarship)? Again, it's obvious that this transfer was not volleyball-related. Juley's not going in there thinking she can take Carlini's spot. Why do you insist on complicating everything? I'm not the only one who questioned this as well. Nor am I the only one who questioned what her role would be.
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Post by vbnerd on Apr 22, 2014 21:22:55 GMT -5
I said this when I posted the two transfers, but we are going in circles so it bears expanding the point. When Lauren Carlini was hurt early in the season Courtney Thomas was the setter. When Lauren Carlini came back Thomas went to RS which left just their 3rd string setter to run the B side. How does facing KT Kvas help you prepare for Nebraska or Penn State? At some points last year I wonder if they had to, or were at least tempted to let Thomas run the B side to give the A side something more gamelike to prepare against. Bringing in a quality setter means they have the ability to keep Courtney Thomas on the right and face a game ready setter.
If Wisconsin wants to run a 6-2 when they go to Rutgers or something they don't need another setter, they were already playing with 2 setters on the court. If Carlini gets hurt I'm not even sure they wouldn't go back to Thomas because of her history with these hitters, specifically Thompson, as fast as she likes that slide... If Juley is as good as some suggest then I'd expect her to get there before long but if Carlini gets hurt in Anaheim I'd bet Thomas starts the season at setter.
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Post by chisovnik on Apr 22, 2014 21:23:55 GMT -5
Again, it's obvious that this transfer was not volleyball-related. Juley's not going in there thinking she can take Carlini's spot. Why do you insist on complicating everything? I'm not the only one who questioned this as well. Nor am I the only one who questioned what her role would be. I think it's pretty obvious what her role is going to be. And I'm sure she knows it too. It's abundantly clear that the reason she's transferring has nothing to do with playing time or money. What more do you want?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 21:25:57 GMT -5
I said this when I posted the two transfers, but we are going in circles so it bears expanding the point. When Lauren Carlini was hurt early in the season Courtney Thomas was the setter. When Lauren Carlini came back Thomas went to RS which left just their 3rd string setter to run the B side. How does facing KT Kvas help you prepare for Nebraska or Penn State? At some points last year I wonder if they had to, or were at least tempted to let Thomas run the B side to give the A side something more gamelike to prepare against. Bringing in a quality setter means they have the ability to keep Courtney Thomas on the right and face a game ready setter. They do bring in practice players, ya know.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Apr 22, 2014 21:59:24 GMT -5
Y'know what, dudes? I'm pretty jazzed about both of these transfers. Yup. Pretty darn jazzed. It's a great day to be a Badger.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 22:03:41 GMT -5
Y'know what, dudes? I'm pretty jazzed about both of these transfers. Yup. Pretty darn jazzed. It's a great day to be a Badger. They're great additions.
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Post by supportvball on Apr 22, 2014 22:30:30 GMT -5
You guys are right on. These transfers are only going to make the team better. Heck, the B team could finish in the top half of the Conference.
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Post by woodandsand on Apr 22, 2014 22:44:29 GMT -5
I'm thinking there is a decent shot that Carlini is in the running for a spot on the USA squad, so Juley transferring in as a Junior to run the show while she is gone makes a ton of sense to me!!
Add in the fact that Wisconsin is riding high right now off the finals appearance, they are in the best conference in the nation, and LB is going no where in the next couple years you probably have a pretty good situation.
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Post by beachvball on Apr 22, 2014 23:29:37 GMT -5
We at the Beach wish nothing but the best for Erin Juley. She has amazing hands. With Hudson transferring to Long Beach, it was obvious that Juley would become the back up to her. Better to be a back up near home. With Juley's chronic injuries we had no choice to go after a healthy experience setter. Long Beach is moving forward to get our team back in the playoff.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Apr 22, 2014 23:38:37 GMT -5
True. I think Wisconsin is a much better team, with a much better coach. Dont get me wrong. But she will probably be a walk on if shes going to wisconsin, and have VERY little playing time. But maybe she chose to transfer due to personal reasons. But Wisconsin is the LAST place a setter should to transfer imo. Its like a MB transferring to this past years Stanford team. The opportunity to train with the best setter in the country, play in the nation's toughest conference, compete for a national title, earn a UW degree, and finish her career in the country's best college town... Yeah. She's really stupid. The idea that a major appeal is "I get to train with the best setter in the country" is ridiculous. The suggestion is, this will help me become the best player to never play" Now the rest I get.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 23:44:52 GMT -5
With Hudson transferring to Long Beach, it was obvious that Juley would become the back up to her. Better to be a back up near home. With support like this I guess it's also obvious why she'd leave.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 22, 2014 23:55:36 GMT -5
it is sad to see Juley go from the Beach, but some of this stuff on here is ridiculous. She was a great competitor, but even last year she struggled at times, and had constant injury issues/limitations in her career. She never even played Sand, which is very telling.
She will be on a great team, with her sister, closer to home, and potentially she might some significant time depending on what happens, it's all good. And Long Beach had an assistant Ulmer take a job at Oregon to start a sand program, that may have also affected the decision if he was gone - who knows.
hope she does well at Wisconsin, the fact a quality setter transferred in doesn't mean people didn't support her, but I don't think any top program would want to have to count on someone who had the injury history Juley had.
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