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Post by jackryan on Apr 19, 2014 6:13:17 GMT -5
I just accepted my first varsity position this week. In my years as an assistant the varsity coach would write out the rosters, post them on the wall of the gym and we would walk out. The girls would then come into the gym and see the roster. I wasn't sure that was the best way to handle it.
How have you handled or seen it handled and the pros and cons to it? It is obviously a hard thing but just looking for some ideas.
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Post by volleymom1532 on Apr 19, 2014 7:17:16 GMT -5
One daughter was on varsity all four years of highschool. Each year the coach met with each girl who tried out and delivered the news in person. But also during that meeting was a discussion of anticipated role on the team, i.e. likely to contribute (never the word start), what you will need to do to earn playing time, most likely will not play, etc. This helped to set expectations. In a couple of cases, a student made the decision after this conversation to not play and chose another sport.
I think in fairness to the girls trying out, and to the team a personal conversation is appropriate.
Good luck. It can be difficult I am sure to have these conversations but it honors the person and is respectful.
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Post by mplssetter on Apr 19, 2014 7:26:18 GMT -5
I've only seen it done face to face, in a separate room, 1 player and two or three coaches. It's rough. But I think you owe it to the kids that tryout, especially if you have cut a player that's already been in the program.
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Post by Phaedrus on Apr 19, 2014 8:11:21 GMT -5
Face to face is the best way IMHO. It is extremely time consuming but it is well worth the time. Having a few coaches doing the talking is best, and give the underclassmen things to work on to help them make it the following season.
Mihael Jordan was cut his sophomore season in HS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 11:06:04 GMT -5
I just accepted my first varsity position this week. In my years as an assistant the varsity coach would write out the rosters, post them on the wall of the gym and we would walk out. The girls would then come into the gym and see the roster. I wasn't sure that was the best way to handle it. How have you handled or seen it handled and the pros and cons to it? It is obviously a hard thing but just looking for some ideas. I despised cuts, so I chose not to make them after making them once. I wasn't given an extra coach, so I had to put more time in for a separate practice since I already had a full varsity and JV. I understand that young people need to deal with failure--I just hate seeing people turned away from a sport they may have passion for but just not be great at. The coaches who replaced me felt different, play ONLY the best 6-7 kids at ANY level, so that the roster now has 12 kids total instead of 38. The other advantage of avoiding cuts--sometimes kids bloom late, sometimes your 'stars' quit. Depth is handy. **But this is coming from a small-school perspective (enrollment total 160). With a big-school where 50 kids may want to be on varsity, I think the best answer is : DO WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT. Individual meetings with 30 cut kids could take forever...posting it on a wall is impersonal...go with your heart. |
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Post by ja on Apr 19, 2014 12:02:36 GMT -5
Every year after tryouts I have a conversation with girls, who did not make the team (club). The most important to me to let them exactly know
what they need to work on to make them self better and keep them in the volleyball. Sometimes I have even to expand the roster, but offer no
playing time. You would be surprise how many times girls agreed to stay on the team without chance to play. They all end up playing at some
point. Cutting is the worst part of our profession right after dealing with crazy parents! Once again, have a decency to address kid in person!
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Post by volleyballer4life on Apr 19, 2014 14:08:26 GMT -5
Face to face is the best way IMHO. It is extremely time consuming but it is well worth the time. Having a few coaches doing the talking is best, and give the underclassmen things to work on to help them make it the following season. Mihael Jordan was cut his sophomore season in HS. Forgive me for going a bit off-topic to debunk this myth - as much as I'm a loyal MJ fan, the reality is, he didn't make his varsity team his high school year - he proceeded to thrash everyone at the JV level that season. I wouldn't call that "getting cut" - but I know I believed that story for about 20 years until I found out the real version! To bring a little something to the table, if you have the time to meet with them all individually that's great - especially if you can give them a little feedback on what they do well and what their areas of improvement are. If they're dedicated, that will at least give them something to shoot for should they come back next season. Just my thoughts  |
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Post by Phaedrus on Apr 19, 2014 17:37:29 GMT -5
Face to face is the best way IMHO. It is extremely time consuming but it is well worth the time. Having a few coaches doing the talking is best, and give the underclassmen things to work on to help them make it the following season. Mihael Jordan was cut his sophomore season in HS. Forgive me for going a bit off-topic to debunk this myth - as much as I'm a loyal MJ fan, the reality is, he didn't make his varsity team his high school year - he proceeded to thrash everyone at the JV level that season. I wouldn't call that "getting cut" - but I know I believed that story for about 20 years until I found out the real version! To bring a little something to the table, if you have the time to meet with them all individually that's great - especially if you can give them a little feedback on what they do well and what their areas of improvement are. If they're dedicated, that will at least give them something to shoot for should they come back next season. Just my thoughts Just checked Snopes. Your version isn't right either. message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=50849 |
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Post by BitterOldDude on Apr 19, 2014 17:45:10 GMT -5
Modern version: Group-text the girls who made the team. Then, group text all the girls who didn't. Important to do it in that order. Included in the text to the players who have been cut, an invitation to come discuss the reasons they didn't make the team. Have individual conversations with any players who have been on the team previous seasons, and then have been beaten out for a roster spot. You owe it to your veterans.
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Post by vbgirls2 on Apr 19, 2014 19:22:42 GMT -5
sorry personal opinion......"chicken %*$# way to handle cuts". I agree with those that said, meet with each girl individually tell those that made it congrats and what you expect out of them and what team they made and why and those that you cut, why they were cut, what they did well, but also what they did not do well and what they need to do next time. (if there is a next time). I agree you owe it in person especially if they were on the team before and will not be this year. You can also offer some of those that were cut to be statisticians, team managers etc.......
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