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Post by bball on Jan 21, 2018 19:17:24 GMT -5
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Post by fredrick on Jan 22, 2018 15:06:18 GMT -5
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Post by huskerholiday on Jan 22, 2018 16:25:39 GMT -5
Cannot wait to see this bunch coming in.
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Post by 402 on Jan 22, 2018 19:53:46 GMT -5
Of the upcoming 2019-2021 recruits, which player would you like to see on this year’s team?
I’m going with Kubik for her back-row game. The 2018 team would barely skip a beat with her pipe attacks, floor defense, serve and pass.
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Post by huskerholiday on Jan 22, 2018 21:29:45 GMT -5
This is the one I am excited about.
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Post by jasonr on Jan 22, 2018 22:30:57 GMT -5
This is the one I am excited about. The Temecula Cannon...
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Post by huskerholiday on Jan 22, 2018 22:44:53 GMT -5
She has got an arm.
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Post by fredrick on Jan 24, 2018 14:46:53 GMT -5
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Post by Dash22 on Feb 1, 2018 0:19:24 GMT -5
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Post by 402 on Feb 1, 2018 20:16:11 GMT -5
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Post by dcvbfan on Feb 1, 2018 22:22:54 GMT -5
Comparatively speaking, yes. Superior is class C2. Very few P5 level players in that class. That doesn't mean it's bad volleyball, but if a kid is an athletic outlier they can be dominant without being that skilled because the overall competition isn't great. That includes in a championship match. Kim Behrends Angie Oxley Mandi Munson Jordan Larson Christinia Houghtelling Dani Busboom Megan Korver Karen Aspregen Janet Kruse Virginia Stahr Karen Dahlgren Lisa Reitsma- Sanborn Iowa Mikayla Foecke- west point , Iowa pop 975 just off the top of my head were all from Class C or Class D schools. these players didnt get the memo that they were going to be way behind the others. I grew up not long ago in one of the smallest D2 high schools in Nebraska. What you're missing is that nearly all of these players came from an era before club volleyball was huge. For the most part, those girls played only on their high school teams. People didn't travel from Wallace to Lincoln or Denver to play club volleyball or even have club volleyball regionally (at least in western Nebraska). Now, they can leave their towns behind and find people and coaches at their levels and build their skills better and faster. I love the small town I came from. It's not snobbery, but a changed reality. Driving four hours to Lincoln only happened three times (State volleyball and State speech) in 18 years of life for me. Now it's at least a monthly trip for our family. Different times. The bigger issue for the state of Nebraska though is geographic and how disadvantaged western Nebraska is at this point.
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Post by huskerholiday on Feb 1, 2018 23:17:14 GMT -5
Kim Behrends Angie Oxley Mandi Munson Jordan Larson Christinia Houghtelling Dani Busboom Megan Korver Karen Aspregen Janet Kruse Virginia Stahr Karen Dahlgren Lisa Reitsma- Sanborn Iowa Mikayla Foecke- west point , Iowa pop 975 just off the top of my head were all from Class C or Class D schools. these players didnt get the memo that they were going to be way behind the others. I grew up not long ago in one of the smallest D2 high schools in Nebraska. What you're missing is that nearly all of these players came from an era before club volleyball was huge. For the most part, those girls played only on their high school teams. People didn't travel from Wallace to Lincoln or Denver to play club volleyball or even have club volleyball regionally (at least in western Nebraska). Now, they can leave their towns behind and find people and coaches at their levels and build their skills better and faster. I love the small town I came from it. It's not snobbery, but a changed reality. Driving four hours to Lincoln only happened three times (State volleyball and State speech) in 18 years of life for me. Now it's at least a monthly trip for our family. Different times. The bigger issue for the state of Nebraska though is geographic and how disadvantaged western Nebraska is at this point. I don't disagree as long as you understand that this mentality is a form of snobbery and will eventually be the ruin of small teams. Every parent has a dream for their kids even if those kids don't have the skill to play for Nebraska. Imagine if the mentality of all becomes.....lets move just so my darling can play for a bigger and better team.
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Post by dcvbfan on Feb 1, 2018 23:38:32 GMT -5
On my point about western Nebraska being disadvantaged, I'd be curious to hear people's thoughts on what's caused such a significant downturn in western Nebraska teams in the State finals. Is western Nebraska losing population faster than the small schools in eastern Nebraska? Is the intensity of club volleyball in eastern Nebraska making those girls that much better? Is it economic in that western Nebraska is generally poorer than eastern Nebraska and doesn't have the resources to send their girls to as many camps?
I tried to upload a couple files, but apparently all of the pictures and videos in this thread have consumed all of the space.
1) Qualifiers - Only five teams west of Kearney made State out of 48 potential teams. With A-C2 district finals now seeded rather than geographically protected, only one school of 32 qualifiers from Classes A-C2 was from west of Kearney. That team was seeded against another team west of Kearney in the District finals, so one team was guaranteed to qualify from west of Kearney. The C2 qualifier was seeded 8th and lost in the second lowest scoring game of all first round games across all six classes. The other four teams were geographically protected in Classes D1 and D2.
2) State Finalists - The boundary line moves further eastward. No team west of Grand Island advanced to the State finals. That leaves 2/3 of the state without a team in the finals.
1983 is when NSAA moved to a six class system.
1983-1990: 25% of champions and 30% of finalists were public schools west of Kearney 1991-2000: 22% of champions and 23% of finalists were public schools west of Kearney 2001-2010: 10% of champions and 10% of finalists were public schools west of Kearney 2011-2017: 0% of champions and 2% of finalists were public schools west of Kearney
Huge changes in three decades!
It would be interesting to know how much the change to rally scoring negatively impacted western Nebraska teams - that would be the downturn from 22% to 10% and 23% to 10%, but it's dropped off even more since then. I have similar numbers for girls basketball, and it's essentially the same pattern as volleyball, so it's not all (or at all) caused by the change to rally scoring.
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Post by huskerholiday on Feb 1, 2018 23:45:52 GMT -5
On my point about western Nebraska being disadvantaged, I'd be curious to hear people's thoughts on what's caused such a significant downturn in western Nebraska teams in the State finals. Is western Nebraska losing population faster than the small schools in eastern Nebraska? Is the intensity of club volleyball in eastern Nebraska making those girls that much better? Is it economic in that western Nebraska is generally poorer than eastern Nebraska and doesn't have the resources to send their girls to as many camps? I tried to upload a couple files, but apparently all of the pictures and videos in this thread have consumed all of the space. 1) Qualifiers - Only five teams west of Kearney made State out of 48 potential teams. With A-C2 district finals now seeded rather than geographically protected, only one school of 32 qualifiers from Classes A-C2 was from west of Kearney. That team was seeded against another team west of Kearney in the District finals, so one team was guaranteed to qualify from west of Kearney. The C2 qualifier was seeded 8th and lost in the second lowest scoring game of all first round games across all six classes. The other four teams were geographically protected in Classes D1 and D2. 2) State Finalists - The boundary line moves further eastward. No team west of Grand Island advanced to the State finals. That leaves 2/3 of the state without a team in the finals. 1983 is when NSAA moved to a six class system. 1983-1990: 25% of champions and 30% of finalists were public schools west of Kearney 1991-2000: 22% of champions and 23% of finalists were public schools west of Kearney 2001-2010: 10% of champions and 10% of finalists were public schools west of Kearney 2011-2017: 0% of champions and 2% of finalists were public schools west of Kearney Huge changes in three decades! It would be interesting to know how much the change to rally scoring negatively impacted western Nebraska teams - that would be the downturn from 22% to 10% and 23% to 10%, but it's dropped off even more since then. I have similar numbers for girls basketball, and it's essentially the same pattern as volleyball, so it's not all (or at all) caused by the change to rally scoring. great job on this Most of our schools are on the lower end of their classes so that poses a challenge. The same applies for football. This lends to your point but tougher competition on more populated areas. Sometimes our teams travel up to three to four hours for a single game. Schools like Ogallala, Sidney, Scottsbluff and Alliance have dropped a few classes just in the last few decades.
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Post by dcvbfan on Feb 1, 2018 23:46:17 GMT -5
I grew up not long ago in one of the smallest D2 high schools in Nebraska. What you're missing is that nearly all of these players came from an era before club volleyball was huge. For the most part, those girls played only on their high school teams. People didn't travel from Wallace to Lincoln or Denver to play club volleyball or even have club volleyball regionally (at least in western Nebraska). Now, they can leave their towns behind and find people and coaches at their levels and build their skills better and faster. I love the small town I came from it. It's not snobbery, but a changed reality. Driving four hours to Lincoln only happened three times (State volleyball and State speech) in 18 years of life for me. Now it's at least a monthly trip for our family. Different times. The bigger issue for the state of Nebraska though is geographic and how disadvantaged western Nebraska is at this point. I don't disagree as long as you understand that this mentality is a form of snobbery and will eventually be the ruin of small teams. Every parent has a dream for their kids even if those kids don't have the skill to play for Nebraska. Imagine if the mentality of all becomes.....lets move just so my darling can play for a bigger and better team. I don't see it as snobbery to discuss what is actually happening, but I may be misreading that part of your message. Looking at the stats, if you want your daughter to be playing for a championship, you have a 2% chance of that happening this decade if you live west of Kearney. That's not an opinion, but the statistics of the last seven years of Nebraska State Volleyball Finals. That doesn't mean one player can't be exceptional and go on to play in college, but a competitive team is that much harder now to field for western Nebraska.
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