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Post by vbnerd on Jul 22, 2014 13:05:11 GMT -5
I think the extra month that Nebraska got to play together as team because of there China tour will be a huge advantage for them especially doing the first two monthes of the season before everyone else kind of catches up. Not sure it will be as much of an advantage come late November and into the post season. But as far as their win-loss record in the BIG, they have a good chance to be on top. Robinson was our go to play last year as we really didn't have many other young players stepping up. I'd expect they will be a pretty balanced team in the fall and overall they could be quite a bit better. Time will tell. Its not really an extra month. I would guess that Nebraska, like most elite programs, are in the gym all summer anyway. The coaches could be in the gym with the team for 10 days + the trip which can help, and there is a bonding experience that comes with a trip like that but they also probably missed 10-12 days of lifting/conditioning. Their is a level of exhaustion that comes with that kind of travel that detracts from the ensuing workouts. It will help but you may be over estimating its impact. Plus, like you said, it is a diminishing return. It will help more when they are playing FSU and Stanford in August. They only have 1 competitive match in September and by October I would think the difference wouldn't be that great.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jul 22, 2014 13:59:49 GMT -5
I don't disagree that NE could take the BIG, but I'm Just not that high on Mary P. Again, I know she won awards, blah, blah, blah... she is a good setter. However, she never connected with a very talented middle. She had two outstanding OHs to make her look good. She puts up a hittable ball, but I don't think she can take this team to the next level. If a team becomes one-dimensional against top tier talent, they will lose (see TX match at NE, TX against WI). Have to adjust, keep teams guessing, put defenses on their heels. Almost never happens without a really good to great setter. You're acting like Nebraska has no recourse if Mary underperforms. They can just switch to Hunter who was a top 3 setter in her class and has a year in the program already. She also just set some excellent matches in China. If Mary isn't getting it done, Cook has an excellent plan B. I'm sure they'll be fine, but doubt that Cook pulls Mary. She's good. Not sure your freshman is better as a freshman. It'd have to get pretty bad to pull Mary. Just don't see that happening, unless she's related to Cook. jk.
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Post by nothingbutcorn on Jul 22, 2014 15:06:54 GMT -5
I think Mary has the inside track to getting the start but it would not surprise me for Hunter to become the starting setter. Mary has to show her ability to make the sets needed. Maybe it depends on who has a better connection with the starting MB's? Having options is not a bad thing.
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Post by Lovethegame on Jul 22, 2014 15:19:28 GMT -5
1. Illinois - better than you think 2. Penn State - toss up but Illini are hungry 3. Wisconsin - Carlini will keep them in top 3-5 4. Nebraska - always tough but one year away 5. Purdue - definitely a sleeper 6. Minnesota - Lost too many players 7. Ohio State 8. Michigan State 9. Northwestern 10. Michigan 11. Iowa 12. Maryland 13. Indiana 14. Rutgers - yikes..! Read more: volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/54504/predicting-b1g-final-standings#ixzz38EJw37xF
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 22, 2014 15:25:20 GMT -5
I just realized 8 of the Top 10 attackers and point scorers from the B1G graduated last year, as well as 7 of the Top 10 diggers.
Guess we should get ready for some new faces.
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Post by vbgirls2 on Jul 22, 2014 16:15:18 GMT -5
vbnerd, actually the elite teams are not in the gym all summer. The NCAA regulates how many hours a week they can get together (I think it's 8 hours a week not sure on that one) and practice and that counts weight training/conditioning. Their are some captains practices, and some small group practices and weights but other than that its school and camps. Believe me Compliance keeps track of how much time they practice so teams are kept honest.
The teams that make overseas trips do get more time to practice and in the case of Neb that went to Japan and China, with two matches/practices a day for about 2-3 hours each time, they did get a lot more practice, and I read that they did condition and lift weights in both Japan and China.
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 22, 2014 16:18:27 GMT -5
I just realized 8 of the Top 10 attackers and point scorers from the B1G graduated last year, as well as 7 of the Top 10 diggers. Guess we should get ready for some new faces. Yep - should allow for a lot of unpredictability. The Big 10 may not be worse than last year, but the odds certainly point in that direction.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 16:27:49 GMT -5
I think Mary has the inside track to getting the start but it would not surprise me for Hunter to become the starting setter. Mary has to show her ability to make the sets needed. ...except she hasn't. This doesn't make sense.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jul 22, 2014 16:45:57 GMT -5
I think Mary has the inside track to getting the start but it would not surprise me for Hunter to become the starting setter. Mary has to show her ability to make the sets needed. ...except she hasn't. This doesn't make sense. Have you seen her or talked to the staff to know she hasn't improved those areas?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jul 22, 2014 16:48:04 GMT -5
You're acting like Nebraska has no recourse if Mary underperforms. They can just switch to Hunter who was a top 3 setter in her class and has a year in the program already. She also just set some excellent matches in China. If Mary isn't getting it done, Cook has an excellent plan B. I'm sure they'll be fine, but doubt that Cook pulls Mary. She's good. Not sure your freshman is better as a freshman. It'd have to get pretty bad to pull Mary. Just don't see that happening, unless she's related to Cook. jk. She isn't a freshman, she has been there 3 semesters, two summers plus foreign tour and also came in pretty good. Cook will play the player he feels is better, freshman, senior......
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 17:28:44 GMT -5
...except she hasn't. This doesn't make sense. Have you seen her or talked to the staff to know she hasn't improved those areas? The statement wasn't that she improved. The statement was that she's proven her ability to "make the sets needed." Do you think she's proven her ability to set behind her consistently? To consistently connect with the middles? I don't. There is zero proof of that.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jul 22, 2014 18:01:38 GMT -5
Have you seen her or talked to the staff to know she hasn't improved those areas? The statement wasn't that she improved. The statement was that she's proven her ability to "make the sets needed." Do you think she's proven her ability to set behind her consistently? To consistently connect with the middles? I don't. There is zero proof of that. I'm not making any statements on something I don't have any knowledge of. You are making a statement about her improvement or lack of with zero basis. So why would you think she hasn't? You are certainly correct in saying there is zero proof she has improved, but there is also zero proof she hasn't. It just seems to me that when someone doesn't have any first hand knowledge they should not comment at all or say "I have no idea"
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Post by sizzlincatfish on Jul 22, 2014 19:57:32 GMT -5
vbnerd, actually the elite teams are not in the gym all summer. The NCAA regulates how many hours a week they can get together (I think it's 8 hours a week not sure on that one) and practice and that counts weight training/conditioning. Their are some captains practices, and some small group practices and weights but other than that its school and camps. Believe me Compliance keeps track of how much time they practice so teams are kept honest. The teams that make overseas trips do get more time to practice and in the case of Neb that went to Japan and China, with two matches/practices a day for about 2-3 hours each time, they did get a lot more practice, and I read that they did condition and lift weights in both Japan and China. Summer is classes, camp, workouts, and open gym. So technically they're in the gym most of the summer. Sure, they're only allowed a certain amount of gym time, but they're in there comstantly.
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Post by FreeBall on Jul 22, 2014 20:52:22 GMT -5
I think Mary has the inside track to getting the start but it would not surprise me for Hunter to become the starting setter. Mary has to show her ability to make the sets needed. Maybe it depends on who has a better connection with the starting MB's? Having options is not a bad thing. This is the post to which pelcj11 responded. Note that nothingbutcorn specifically said "Mary has to show her ability to make the sets needed." Here's pelcj11's interpretation of that part of nothingbutcorn's post: Seems to be quite a bit of difference between the two statements!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 23:11:20 GMT -5
I didn't take the initial statement that way.
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