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Post by baywatcher on Jul 20, 2014 9:42:11 GMT -5
Anyone care to predict final B1G standings. I already have those from the Predict B1G thread currently running, but that's only three; trying to reach a consensus. Also receptive to any suggestion as to how to create a formula to apply a result of in conference variables to OOC schedule to predict final RPI.
I have already compiled winning % for 2014 OOC opponents from their records last year. But schedules are so unbalanced some sort of in conference factor needs to be applied for ultimate RPI.
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Post by dcvolleyball on Jul 20, 2014 10:07:39 GMT -5
1. Nebraska
2. Penn State
3. Wisconsin
4. Minnesota
5. Illinois
6. Purdue
7. Ohio State
8. Michigan State
9. Michigan
10. Iowa
11. Northwestern
12. Maryland
13. Indiana
14. Rutgers
I think any of the top 6 could win, there are so many variables this year, not playing everyone twice, where you play the one meeting etc.
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Post by mnsports255 on Jul 20, 2014 10:52:44 GMT -5
1. Penn State
2. Nebraska
3. Purdue
4. Wisconsin
5. Minnesota
6. Illinois
7. Michigan State
8. Michigan
9. Northwestern
10. Ohio State
11. Iowa
12. Indiana
13. Maryland
14. Rutgers
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 11:08:36 GMT -5
How is this different from the other thread...?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 11:16:09 GMT -5
More specific, focused. The other thread asked many other questions. But I want you to explain how Katie Schau is going to set Minnesota to a 10th place finish. I trusted you.  |
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Post by baywatcher on Jul 20, 2014 17:11:00 GMT -5
How is this different from the other thread...? Just asking for specific predicted order of finish, not who is MVP, most improved, etc. I will combine all the projections into a consensus prediction, like the Coaches do, then try to come up with a formula to apply that to eventual RPI. Any ideas for a formula or device to adjust conference contributions would be highly welcome. |
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 20, 2014 18:40:21 GMT -5
(I've posted this in both Big 10 threads)
Question: what is the methodology used to determine which teams gets skipped home/away? Seems to be all over the place.
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Post by jma22 on Jul 20, 2014 19:58:26 GMT -5
Didn't Illinois and Wisconsin both tie for 4th in conference last year? And didn't each only graduate their Libero? Why the difference between where everyone has the two teams ranked? It seems like a lot of people are underestimating the Illini. Do they have a team that can win the league this year? It's possible, I think both Illinois and Purdue are sleepers that could win the conference. Not saying it's likely, but more possible than people think. Illinois brings back everyone minus the libero and brings in a talented transfer setter (PAC-12 all-freshmen team) and freshman libero. The only difference between people's perception of Illinois vs. Wisconsin is Wiscy's tournament run, which may or may not translate to a high level of play this season. It didn't with Michigan, so we'll see what happens. |
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 20, 2014 20:58:59 GMT -5
Didn't Illinois and Wisconsin both tie for 4th in conference last year? And didn't each only graduate their Libero? Why the difference between where everyone has the two teams ranked? It seems like a lot of people are underestimating the Illini. Do they have a team that can win the league this year? It's possible, I think both Illinois and Purdue are sleepers that could win the conference. Not saying it's likely, but more possible than people think. Illinois brings back everyone minus the libero and brings in a talented transfer setter (PAC-12 all-freshmen team) and freshman libero. The only difference between people's perception of Illinois vs. Wisconsin is Wiscy's tournament run, which may or may not translate to a high level of play this season. It didn't with Michigan, so we'll see what happens. Illinois will be very dangerous this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 21:42:18 GMT -5
It's possible, I think both Illinois and Purdue are sleepers that could win the conference. Not saying it's likely, but more possible than people think. Illinois brings back everyone minus the libero and brings in a talented transfer setter (PAC-12 all-freshmen team) and freshman libero. The only difference between people's perception of Illinois vs. Wisconsin is Wiscy's tournament run, which may or may not translate to a high level of play this season. It didn't with Michigan, so we'll see what happens. Illinois will be very dangerous this year. We'll see. I'm not as convinced as the rest of you. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 20, 2014 21:52:24 GMT -5
Didn't Illinois and Wisconsin both tie for 4th in conference last year? And didn't each only graduate their Libero? Why the difference between where everyone has the two teams ranked? It seems like a lot of people are underestimating the Illini. Do they have a team that can win the league this year? Yes, Illinois and Wisconsin both tied for 4th place in the Big 10 last year at 12-8. However, Wisconsin won 51.3% of total points played in conference (4th best in conference), while Illinois won only 49.7% of their points (8th best in conference). Prior to Wisconsin's magical run in the NCAA tournament, their Pablo rating ranked 4th in the conference, while Illinois rating ranked 7th. Post tournament, Wisconsin moved up to 2nd in the Big 10 and Illinois stayed at 7th.
Virtually every indication from last season - Wisconsin was the better team.
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Post by Pasquale on Jul 20, 2014 22:22:45 GMT -5
Didn't Illinois and Wisconsin both tie for 4th in conference last year? And didn't each only graduate their Libero? Why the difference between where everyone has the two teams ranked? It seems like a lot of people are underestimating the Illini. Do they have a team that can win the league this year? Yes, Illinois and Wisconsin both tied for 4th place in the Big 10 last year at 12-8. However, Wisconsin won 51.3% of total points played in conference (4th best in conference), while Illinois won only 49.7% of their points (8th best in conference). Prior to Wisconsin's magical run in the NCAA tournament, their Pablo rating ranked 4th in the conference, while Illinois rating ranked 7th. Post tournament, Wisconsin moved up to 2nd in the Big 10 and Illinois stayed at 7th.
Virtually every indication from last season - Wisconsin was the better team.
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Post by david on Jul 20, 2014 23:28:23 GMT -5
Can 9 or even 10 teams make it to the NCAA Tournament from the B1G this year?
And can a team that finishes 4th or even 5th in conference make it to the Final Four?
There will be a lot of very good teams: Penn State has a lot of freshmen, Nebraska loses their go-to player; Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue will all be VERY good. And if a different libero and new setter address what could have been the Illini's biggest weakness the last couple years- passing and deceptive setting- Illinois could be great.
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Post by baywatcher on Jul 21, 2014 1:06:58 GMT -5
For this year, at least, the bottom teams should be well below the mid and upper tier teams; Rutgers, Maryland, Iowa under the new coach; while somebody said Indiana looked frisky last year, but could be below. If the others beat up on those four, and NW is not great, then the other 9 or 10 have an excellent chance of getting into the tournament. 4th or 5th place teams should be Purdue, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan St.; I would think those teams would need seeding aids (this years Missouri, Florida) to challenge for the final Four; but of coursse it's all possible.
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Post by noreaster on Jul 21, 2014 1:33:22 GMT -5
You simply have to love that in a July 14th release Rutgers can announce their non-conference tournaments but not their opponents. Do they not know? Or is the SID just too lasy? For those of us with access to the miracle that is the internet the following teams are at the tournament Rutgers has named, so I hope we can assume that Rutgers non-Big 10 schedule includes many of these teams.
@air Force 218
SIUE 253
Winthrop 243
Cal 35
@seton Hall 79
Cornell 227
Siena 209
UNLV 126
@rhode Island 193
NJIT 301
Cincinatti 270
@rutgers
American 30
Princeton 248
Akron 254
James Madison 154
Then Maryland actually posted their opponents, so we know they play
Elon 215
Liberty 187
San Jose (with nobody returning)
Lehigh 133
East Tennessee 76
George Mason 268
Ga State 264
Ap State 153
Washington
USC
I'd think those number would weigh on every team in the Big 10, just a little. I could see the Big 10 down to 6 teams in the dance.
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