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Post by fetchin on Jul 23, 2014 22:52:06 GMT -5
Don't see Iosia picking USC.
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Post by jasonr on Jul 23, 2014 23:40:27 GMT -5
I don't really understand--you can't possibly have an elite player "on the hook" if you haven't made an offer. But I don't believe it's about closing ability at all. Cultivating a relationship is painstaking work. Regular contacts, remembering birthdays and important details, following progress and watching matches, letting the athlete know you're watching and interested is time-consuming and requires a lot of organization and discipline. For a coach who does this really well, the closing is simply the culmination. UCLA's vb difficulties are internal, because there is still tremendous interest among athletes in UCLA as an institution. Closing is the hardest part. The elite athletes usually cultivate tight relationships with multiple staffs. It's how you distinguish yourself at the end that matters. I remember my recruiting, all my finalist schools had great coaches, facilities, academics, etc., and all had spent years recruiting me, but the school I ended up committing to handled my recruitment better toward the end, especially my position coach's wife who befriended my mother along the way since they shared similar life stories. They just came across as more sincere yet professional whereas the other schools were almost too slick. That matched the way they opened their recruitment of me, i.e. they explained that they weren't just going to offer because everyone else was, they laid out criteria for what they wanted out of me and stuck to that even when other schools were promising the world from the start. I appreciated the consistency and style, it matched my personality. Of course, that's subjective, but when you talk to most athletes, it's usually one or two things at the end that tip the scales, good recruiters don't have templates, they know which buttons to push for each student-athlete.
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Post by C on Jul 23, 2014 23:41:16 GMT -5
Don't see Iosia picking USC. That would be a really bad move for her if she did, REALLY BAD.
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Post by fightonsc on Jul 24, 2014 0:54:05 GMT -5
Understand he is looking at a couple of so cal setters in the class of 2016. One from the Long Beach Mizuno 17 team and the other from the Laguna Beach 16's. Mick already has two setters committed, 2015-Johnson and 2017-Botkin. Can't imagine he'd pick up a 2016 too. Understand the 2017 commit is a dual position player just learning the setting position. With all those options clearly going to continue the 6-2. The rising sophomore they currently have is from Italy, no guarantee she will play all 4. Heard this from a Cal State coach at JO's. Saw Mick watch the Coast/Laguna 18's match. Had a huge grin on his face as he watched a Ambercrombie/Ford shoot out in game 3. Saw him a couple days later take in a complete 3 game match with Arizona/Lanier and a full match of the Laguna team. This Cal State coach said Lanier is going to SC, and Mick was interested in these other setters. FWIW. Felt like a stalker, but it was kind of fun watching him watch players. FightnOn!!
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Post by bigfan on Jul 24, 2014 13:18:19 GMT -5
Put Falyn on USC the last 3 years and I bet USC wins at least 1 title and makes all 4 Final Fours. No way. Kobe and Shaquille left at least 3 NBA titles on the floor............. FF did not work out.
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Post by bballnut90 on Jul 24, 2014 22:14:15 GMT -5
Put Falyn on USC the last 3 years and I bet USC wins at least 1 title and makes all 4 Final Fours. No way. Kobe and Shaquille left at least 3 NBA titles on the floor............. FF did not work out. Did Falyn cause any locker room drama? USC with Jupier and Falyn on the pins with Olgard/Williams in the middle, Bateman setting and Hagglund libero...that lineup is nuts. 6 legitimate All-Americans on the floor together.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 22:20:50 GMT -5
No way. Kobe and Shaquille left at least 3 NBA titles on the floor............. FF did not work out. Did Falyn cause any locker room drama? USC with Jupier and Falyn on the pins with Olgard/Williams in the middle, Bateman setting and Hagglund libero...that lineup is nuts. 6 legitimate All-Americans on the floor together. Pretty weak year for college volleyball.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Jul 25, 2014 10:15:52 GMT -5
Did Falyn cause any locker room drama? USC with Jupier and Falyn on the pins with Olgard/Williams in the middle, Bateman setting and Hagglund libero...that lineup is nuts. 6 legitimate All-Americans on the floor together. Pretty weak year for college volleyball. What is wrong with you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 10:47:21 GMT -5
Pretty weak year for college volleyball. What is wrong with you. I think I'm getting strep throat.
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Post by trojansc on Jul 25, 2014 12:58:25 GMT -5
Pretty weak year for college volleyball. I'm not sure about that and Well, not a weak year for Alex Jupiter and USC. USC was 28-4 heading into Hawaii, and despite losing three of their first eight, USC had won their last 23 of 24 matches. Outside of the four losses, USC had only dropped FOUR sets the entire season. They won a majority of games 3-0 sweep. Wasn't it funny how USC was seeded #7 and #2 Nebraska couldn't get past Kansas State, who was then easily swept by Pepperdine. As for Alex, She had to score 9 points in the 5th set of a Regional semifinal to overcome the Hawaiian onslought of Croson & Danielson on the Island, then face A much more rested Pepperdine squad with Stevi Robinson who was outstanding along with Kim Hill and Woolever. Jupiter who took 80 swings (and those are actual swings, she very rarely tipped or rolled) the night before had to use her defense and came up with 26 or 30 digs after posting over 30 kills the night before. That was just to get to the Final Four. Then USC had to defend the Illinois attack which in my opinion, was some of the best ever coaching decisions made against USC. Hambly loaded up the block to USC's predictable offense, by sending the setter to the leftside, sometimes faking McMahon to go right but she block's left for that particular rotation. Then when his team was on offense they did a great job of swinging high line / high hands. There were so many kills to zone 1 of the court They kept the ball away from Hagglund. Illinois was able to defend Jupiter successfully for awhile which kept them in the game, but when Alex got some room around the block and was not hitting aganst 6'6 she had 23 kills in just two sets (3 & 4). Jupiter took over those two sets. In the 3rd she had 10 kills, putting USC up 22-19. She was never set again as USC gave up 6 straight to lose that game (It STILL burns me that you don't give a swing to the hottest hitter on the court and give up six straight). Then in the 4th set there was no stopping Jupiter as she had 13 kills, over half of SC's points. In the Final set, Hambly put McMahon left front and Jupiter was put left front to start. Hambly got the rotation he liked and Jupiter only had 3 kills I think. Illinois had the better strategy, USC very one-dimensional. That was a fantastic game to watch, and in MY opinion, just in USC's three final games that showed this was not a down year for college volleyball. It was a strange year however... Kansas St over Nebraska in the NCAA's was wild, along with UCF beating USC. UCF didnt even make the tournament. As for now, USC just needs to worry about replacing Shaw and Hagglund who did the majority of the passing and a lot of digging these past four years.
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Post by ShaneM2005 on Jul 25, 2014 14:46:25 GMT -5
Pretty weak year for college volleyball. I'm not sure about that and Well, not a weak year for Alex Jupiter and USC. USC was 28-4 heading into Hawaii, and despite losing three of their first eight, USC had won their last 23 of 24 matches. Outside of the four losses, USC had only dropped FOUR sets the entire season. They won a majority of games 3-0 sweep. Wasn't it funny how USC was seeded #7 and #2 Nebraska couldn't get past Kansas State, who was then easily swept by Pepperdine. As for Alex, She had to score 9 points in the 5th set of a Regional semifinal to overcome the Hawaiian onslought of Croson & Danielson on the Island, then face A much more rested Pepperdine squad with Stevi Robinson who was outstanding along with Kim Hill and Woolever. Jupiter who took 80 swings (and those are actual swings, she very rarely tipped or rolled) the night before had to use her defense and came up with 26 or 30 digs after posting over 30 kills the night before. That was just to get to the Final Four. Then USC had to defend the Illinois attack which in my opinion, was some of the best ever coaching decisions made against USC. Hambly loaded up the block to USC's predictable offense, by sending the setter to the leftside, sometimes faking McMahon to go right but she block's left for that particular rotation. Then when his team was on offense they did a great job of swinging high line / high hands. There were so many kills to zone 1 of the court They kept the ball away from Hagglund. Illinois was able to defend Jupiter successfully for awhile which kept them in the game, but when Alex got some room around the block and was not hitting aganst 6'6 she had 23 kills in just two sets (3 & 4). Jupiter took over those two sets. In the 3rd she had 10 kills, putting USC up 22-19. She was never set again as USC gave up 6 straight to lose that game (It STILL burns me that you don't give a swing to the hottest hitter on the court and give up six straight). Then in the 4th set there was no stopping Jupiter as she had 13 kills, over half of SC's points. In the Final set, Hambly put McMahon left front and Jupiter was put left front to start. Hambly got the rotation he liked and Jupiter only had 3 kills I think. Illinois had the better strategy, USC very one-dimensional. That was a fantastic game to watch, and in MY opinion, just in USC's three final games that showed this was not a down year for college volleyball. It was a strange year however... Kansas St over Nebraska in the NCAA's was wild, along with UCF beating USC. UCF didnt even make the tournament. As for now, USC just needs to worry about replacing Shaw and Hagglund who did the majority of the passing and a lot of digging these past four years. This was 2011, FF didn't play that year.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Jul 25, 2014 15:05:00 GMT -5
Pretty weak year for college volleyball. I'm not sure about that and Well, not a weak year for Alex Jupiter and USC. USC was 28-4 heading into Hawaii, and despite losing three of their first eight, USC had won their last 23 of 24 matches. Outside of the four losses, USC had only dropped FOUR sets the entire season. They won a majority of games 3-0 sweep. Wasn't it funny how USC was seeded #7 and #2 Nebraska couldn't get past Kansas State, who was then easily swept by Pepperdine. As for Alex, She had to score 9 points in the 5th set of a Regional semifinal to overcome the Hawaiian onslought of Croson & Danielson on the Island, then face A much more rested Pepperdine squad with Stevi Robinson who was outstanding along with Kim Hill and Woolever. Jupiter who took 80 swings (and those are actual swings, she very rarely tipped or rolled) the night before had to use her defense and came up with 26 or 30 digs after posting over 30 kills the night before. That was just to get to the Final Four. Then USC had to defend the Illinois attack which in my opinion, was some of the best ever coaching decisions made against USC. Hambly loaded up the block to USC's predictable offense, by sending the setter to the leftside, sometimes faking McMahon to go right but she block's left for that particular rotation. Then when his team was on offense they did a great job of swinging high line / high hands. There were so many kills to zone 1 of the court They kept the ball away from Hagglund. Illinois was able to defend Jupiter successfully for awhile which kept them in the game, but when Alex got some room around the block and was not hitting aganst 6'6 she had 23 kills in just two sets (3 & 4). Jupiter took over those two sets. In the 3rd she had 10 kills, putting USC up 22-19. She was never set again as USC gave up 6 straight to lose that game (It STILL burns me that you don't give a swing to the hottest hitter on the court and give up six straight). Then in the 4th set there was no stopping Jupiter as she had 13 kills, over half of SC's points. In the Final set, Hambly put McMahon left front and Jupiter was put left front to start. Hambly got the rotation he liked and Jupiter only had 3 kills I think. Illinois had the better strategy, USC very one-dimensional. That was a fantastic game to watch, and in MY opinion, just in USC's three final games that showed this was not a down year for college volleyball. It was a strange year however... Kansas St over Nebraska in the NCAA's was wild, along with UCF beating USC. UCF didnt even make the tournament. As for now, USC just needs to worry about replacing Shaw and Hagglund who did the majority of the passing and a lot of digging these past four years. I never understood why SC didn't make any adjustments during that match.
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Post by trojansc on Jul 25, 2014 16:31:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure about that and Well, not a weak year for Alex Jupiter and USC. USC was 28-4 heading into Hawaii, and despite losing three of their first eight, USC had won their last 23 of 24 matches. Outside of the four losses, USC had only dropped FOUR sets the entire season. They won a majority of games 3-0 sweep. Wasn't it funny how USC was seeded #7 and #2 Nebraska couldn't get past Kansas State, who was then easily swept by Pepperdine. As for Alex, She had to score 9 points in the 5th set of a Regional semifinal to overcome the Hawaiian onslought of Croson & Danielson on the Island, then face A much more rested Pepperdine squad with Stevi Robinson who was outstanding along with Kim Hill and Woolever. Jupiter who took 80 swings (and those are actual swings, she very rarely tipped or rolled) the night before had to use her defense and came up with 26 or 30 digs after posting over 30 kills the night before. That was just to get to the Final Four. Then USC had to defend the Illinois attack which in my opinion, was some of the best ever coaching decisions made against USC. Hambly loaded up the block to USC's predictable offense, by sending the setter to the leftside, sometimes faking McMahon to go right but she block's left for that particular rotation. Then when his team was on offense they did a great job of swinging high line / high hands. There were so many kills to zone 1 of the court They kept the ball away from Hagglund. Illinois was able to defend Jupiter successfully for awhile which kept them in the game, but when Alex got some room around the block and was not hitting aganst 6'6 she had 23 kills in just two sets (3 & 4). Jupiter took over those two sets. In the 3rd she had 10 kills, putting USC up 22-19. She was never set again as USC gave up 6 straight to lose that game (It STILL burns me that you don't give a swing to the hottest hitter on the court and give up six straight). Then in the 4th set there was no stopping Jupiter as she had 13 kills, over half of SC's points. In the Final set, Hambly put McMahon left front and Jupiter was put left front to start. Hambly got the rotation he liked and Jupiter only had 3 kills I think. Illinois had the better strategy, USC very one-dimensional. That was a fantastic game to watch, and in MY opinion, just in USC's three final games that showed this was not a down year for college volleyball. It was a strange year however... Kansas St over Nebraska in the NCAA's was wild, along with UCF beating USC. UCF didnt even make the tournament. As for now, USC just needs to worry about replacing Shaw and Hagglund who did the majority of the passing and a lot of digging these past four years. This was 2011, FF didn't play that year. I know that Falyn didn't play that year, There was a person that made the comment stated how great USC would have been had Falyn been on the 2011 squad. Then, following that comment was another comment that 2011 was a down year for college vball. My post did not mention Falyn once, and IDK why she is being mentioned again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 17:04:52 GMT -5
2011 was an incredibly weak year in college volleyball.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jul 25, 2014 17:33:21 GMT -5
I'm hoping Lexi sun comes to hawaii, but the chances of that are slim to none. If USC can land her, I see them easily winning national championships. The rich keep getting richer and USC is doing perfect when it comes to recruiting. Now they need to strengthen their middle, because IMO, that's where they've been the weakest as of late
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