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Post by roger on Aug 30, 2014 7:06:35 GMT -5
With freshmen on the floor it maybe that RR will keep this same lineup for the matches today. Getting to play with one another and developing that feel of support from other players is fueled by playing together a lot. RR as we all know is not one for playing a lot of people even early in the year especially when big competition looms over the horizon.
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Post by lionsfan on Aug 30, 2014 9:06:33 GMT -5
Why no mention of the other Freshman middle, Thelen? Is she hurt as well? I thought Whitney was primarily an OH/Opp and curious why the other middle on the roster besides Grant and Washington didn't get some time. I would expect for Thelen or Robertson to get the nod today for some action. Looks like Thelen is getting the start against Iona this morning (and quickly has an error...)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 11:01:31 GMT -5
"SUPER?" I think you're overstating. TCU has no athlete on the same level as PSU's. Very good win and a very good performance, but super impressive? Lol nah. I'll say it again, regardless of opponent, that low error, first match, lists of young players is really impressive. Ask a coach. Really impressive that a Penn State team of four seniors, two juniors, and two top ten recruits had a low-error match against a 150-200+ RPI team? If you say so.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 30, 2014 11:28:36 GMT -5
I'll say it again, regardless of opponent, that low error, first match, lists of young players is really impressive. Ask a coach. Really impressive that a Penn State team of four seniors, two juniors, and two top ten recruits had a low-error match against a 150-200+ RPI team? If you say so. I do say so, their coach says so and feel free to ask any high level college coach if managing errors at that level in first match is impressive. It doesn't seem like a big deal to those who don't get it, been there etc....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 11:34:28 GMT -5
Really impressive that a Penn State team of four seniors, two juniors, and two top ten recruits had a low-error match against a 150-200+ RPI team? If you say so. I do say so, their coach says so and feel free to ask any high level college coach if managing errors at that level in first match is impressive. It doesn't seem like a big deal to those who don't get it, been there etc.... Does Russ call you after every match to tell you his thoughts?
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Post by akbar on Aug 30, 2014 12:10:51 GMT -5
Why no mention of the other Freshman middle, Thelen? Is she hurt as well? I thought Whitney was primarily an OH/Opp and curious why the other middle on the roster besides Grant and Washington didn't get some time. I would expect for Thelen or Robertson to get the nod today for some action. Looks like Thelen is getting the start against Iona this morning (and quickly has an error...) Ended .364 But this morning statically looked sloppy. 10 am
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 30, 2014 12:48:22 GMT -5
I do say so, their coach says so and feel free to ask any high level college coach if managing errors at that level in first match is impressive. It doesn't seem like a big deal to those who don't get it, been there etc.... Does Russ call you after every match to tell you his thoughts? No but I do know what really good coaches feel about any low error match especially first weekend. Especially a coach who's #1 focus for over 30 years has been about managing errors. Those who think that is no big deal or margined managing the ball don't understand the game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 13:55:37 GMT -5
Does Russ call you after every match to tell you his thoughts? No but I do know what really good coaches feel about any low error match especially first weekend. Especially a coach who's #1 focus for over 30 years has been about managing errors. Those who think that is no big deal or margined managing the ball don't understand the game. Lol I think I understand the game pretty well, thanks. I just think you're being a little dramatic about a pretty good performance from a team starting six upperclassmen and two top ten recruits against a team nowhere near the same level of talent or ability, especially when you admit that Rose drills his players pretty hard about managing the ball and reducing errors. "Super impressive" is just fanatical.
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Post by onfiya on Aug 30, 2014 15:56:54 GMT -5
No but I do know what really good coaches feel about any low error match especially first weekend. Especially a coach who's #1 focus for over 30 years has been about managing errors. Those who think that is no big deal or margined managing the ball don't understand the game. Lol I think I understand the game pretty well, thanks. I just think you're being a little dramatic about a pretty good performance from a team starting six upperclassmen and two top ten recruits against a team nowhere near the same level of talent or ability, especially when you admit that Rose drills his players pretty hard about managing the ball and reducing errors. "Super impressive" is just fanatical. Absolutely correct! What do you people think is going to happen when Penn State plays TCU or Texas plays New Mexico?! 8 pages of "Oh my gosh Penn State is so awesome!" Really? It amazes me how every year Texas and Penn State get more top 10 recruits together, than the rest of DI combined and then folks act like some incredible feat is being accomplished by making it to the Final Four or winning a national championship. Duh! Rose and Elliott are great coaches, I'm sure, but they ain't curing cancer, if you know what I mean. It's the single largest imbalance in all of collegiate athletics.
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Post by volleyfuntimes on Aug 30, 2014 16:09:03 GMT -5
Lol I think I understand the game pretty well, thanks. I just think you're being a little dramatic about a pretty good performance from a team starting six upperclassmen and two top ten recruits against a team nowhere near the same level of talent or ability, especially when you admit that Rose drills his players pretty hard about managing the ball and reducing errors. "Super impressive" is just fanatical. Absolutely correct! What do you people think is going to happen when Penn State plays TCU or Texas plays New Mexico?! 8 pages of "Oh my gosh Penn State is so awesome!" Really? It amazes me how every year Texas and Penn State get more top 10 recruits together, than the rest of DI combined and then folks act like some incredible feat is being accomplished by making it to the Final Four or winning a national championship. Duh! Rose and Elliott are great coaches, I'm sure, but they ain't curing cancer, if you know what I mean. It's the single largest imbalance in all of collegiate athletics. Which makes what Wisconsin accomplished last year super impressive! Of course Carlini was a #1 recruit but I don't think the rest of the team were top 10 recruits. But, talented and cohesive with very good coaching....
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Post by Longhorn20 on Aug 30, 2014 16:19:00 GMT -5
Absolutely correct! What do you people think is going to happen when Penn State plays TCU or Texas plays New Mexico?! 8 pages of "Oh my gosh Penn State is so awesome!" Really? It amazes me how every year Texas and Penn State get more top 10 recruits together, than the rest of DI combined and then folks act like some incredible feat is being accomplished by making it to the Final Four or winning a national championship. Duh! Rose and Elliott are great coaches, I'm sure, but they ain't curing cancer, if you know what I mean. It's the single largest imbalance in all of collegiate athletics. Which makes what Wisconsin accomplished last year super impressive! Of course Carlini was a #1 recruit but I don't think the rest of the team were top 10 recruits. But, talented and cohesive with very good coaching.... Wisconsin had 2 top 10 recruits last year along with a top 40 libero and numerous top 100 players. I know they had injuries that hindered them, but people blow them up a little because they were so underwhelming in past years.
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Post by Longhorn20 on Aug 30, 2014 16:22:26 GMT -5
Which makes what Wisconsin accomplished last year super impressive! Of course Carlini was a #1 recruit but I don't think the rest of the team were top 10 recruits. But, talented and cohesive with very good coaching.... Wisconsin had 2 top 10 recruits last year along with a top 40 libero and numerous top 100 players. I know they had injuries that hindered them, but people blow them up a little because they were so underwhelming in past years. Not saying they aren't a good team or anything! I think Wisconsin is absolutely a top 10 team, I just think that people were a little giving in response to their performance when they had so many good and great players already.
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Post by akbar on Aug 30, 2014 16:22:40 GMT -5
Lol I think I understand the game pretty well, thanks. I just think you're being a little dramatic about a pretty good performance from a team starting six upperclassmen and two top ten recruits against a team nowhere near the same level of talent or ability, especially when you admit that Rose drills his players pretty hard about managing the ball and reducing errors. "Super impressive" is just fanatical. Absolutely correct! What do you people think is going to happen when Penn State plays TCU or Texas plays New Mexico?! 8 pages of "Oh my gosh Penn State is so awesome!" Really? It amazes me how every year Texas and Penn State get more top 10 recruits together, than the rest of DI combined and then folks act like some incredible feat is being accomplished by making it to the Final Four or winning a national championship. Duh! Rose and Elliott are great coaches, I'm sure, but they ain't curing cancer, if you know what I mean. It's the single largest imbalance in all of collegiate athletics. Bleh.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 30, 2014 16:26:34 GMT -5
No but I do know what really good coaches feel about any low error match especially first weekend. Especially a coach who's #1 focus for over 30 years has been about managing errors. Those who think that is no big deal or margined managing the ball don't understand the game. Lol I think I understand the game pretty well, thanks. I just think you're being a little dramatic about a pretty good performance from a team starting six upperclassmen and two top ten recruits against a team nowhere near the same level of talent or ability, especially when you admit that Rose drills his players pretty hard about managing the ball and reducing errors. "Super impressive" is just fanatical. You are entitled to your opinion. You will also excuse me if find the humor in you suggesting anyone is "fanatical" or "dramatic" No PSU fan gushes over PSU less than I do, and I actually get crap for it. If me calling super impressive is over the top "pretty good" isn't understating? You also always exclude "first match" when you describe the performance, that wouldn't just be a small oversight in terms of how hard it is to set and attack at that level of efficiency. I am assuming that their attack pct of .429 being just "pretty good" vs a decent program, means their .349 mark against a weak one is an abysmal performance? Again, your standards. Someone mention Texas? They hit 80 pts lower than PSU did vs UTEP. If its so run of the mill for a team with great athletes to hit .429 vs lesser opponents, Texas sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 16:32:36 GMT -5
Lol I think I understand the game pretty well, thanks. I just think you're being a little dramatic about a pretty good performance from a team starting six upperclassmen and two top ten recruits against a team nowhere near the same level of talent or ability, especially when you admit that Rose drills his players pretty hard about managing the ball and reducing errors. "Super impressive" is just fanatical. You are entitled to your opinion. You will also excuse me if find the humor in you suggesting anyone is "fanatical" or "dramatic" No PSU fan gushes over PSU less than I do, and I actually get crap for it. If me calling super impressive is over the top "pretty good" isn't understating? You also always exclude "first match" when you describe the performance, that wouldn't just be a small oversight in terms of how hard it is to set and attack at that level of efficiency. I am assuming that their attack pct of .429 being just "pretty good" vs a decent program, means their .349 mark against a weak one is an abysmal performance? Again, your standards. Someone mention Texas? They hit 80 pts lower than PSU did vs UTEP. If its so run of the mill for a team with great athletes to hit .429 vs lesser opponents, Texas sucks. I thought you would come back with something more intelligent than drawing ridiculous parallels that don't exist, hyperbole, insults, and silly dramatizations. My mistake.
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