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Post by hardbop on Sept 25, 2014 22:16:16 GMT -5
I liked this behind the back dump from Micha! I've watched the match three times. It could be titled "setter dump clinic." The one you posted here, the skyhook to the deep corner and the "back at you" when Carlini tried to go over on two are classics.
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Post by jsn112 on Sept 25, 2014 22:39:34 GMT -5
PSU's problem vs. Stanford was blocking and Lee's hitting. Now that those areas have improved, if they play again, I take PSU in 4, maximum. Also, no way Stanford's OHs are better than PSU's. I am not even sure Stanford has an advantage in the middle either. I am impressed with Grant's play so far this year and Whitney is filling in for Washington nicely. Can't wait for Grant/Washington dual to start. End of the day, I don't really see where Stanford has an advantage over PSU, especially by the time NCAA starts. Inky might be better alone than two of your MHs combined, at least until Washington plays. Don't get me wrong, PSU's MHs are good. Inky is great. No doubt. I meant that PSU's middle is not a weakness (not that it ever was) and can be as effective and reliable as any other positions. In years past, Grant was good but was very inconsistent. Now she is to be reckoned with. And Whitney is turning out to be the offensive machine that everyone has been talking about before but never seemed to put it together in game time. And now, even though an OH, she is versatile enough to help out the middle. So there is not a lot of weaknesses.
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Post by jsn112 on Sept 25, 2014 23:18:50 GMT -5
The twins don't have Russ rose as there head coach. Psu had Stanford on the ropes. Had that game been in neutral court psu prob would have won. Psu also scored more points in that match then Stanford. Psu is young but doesn't mean they can't do it I believe if u look at team from talent and potential as whole psu has more in both. Ok now you are just being a blind homer. PSU does not have more talent than Stanford if anything its a draw and right now I would still take Burgess over Frantti and Lee cause she is proven, her and Howard are both better defensively. Maybe not offensively. Without a doubt Stanford has the better middles, the better libero and the setting is a draw. Bugg is as good as Hancock although Hancock's serve may give her the edge. Boukather is better on the RS than the PSU RS. So what did I leave out? Boof spoke the truth. Also, I will dare say that you are in a tiny minority with your opinion, if judging objectively and reading from all the posts.
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Post by Cruz'n on Sept 26, 2014 0:56:39 GMT -5
Good Thread. Two things:
First, I love it when Team A beats Team B, then the fans of Team B keep whining and whining, making excuses, and explaining how team B is better than Team A. Sorry, fans of Team B, but Team A gets to be acknowledged as the better team until the next time they meet. Because the only real way to settle these disputes is for the teams to meet on the court.
Second, my favorite part of volleyball is the setting. I'm pleased to see Bugg progressing and becoming one of the colleges best setters. However, Hancock and Carlini are clearly the two best. It is amazing how vastly different their respective games are. One part of Carlini's game that is clearly lacking is her dumps. Not only is her execution lacking, but her timing and decision-making on her dumps is not great either. Still, like Hancock, she is an amazing setter and a lot of fun to watch.
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Post by jsn112 on Sept 26, 2014 1:27:00 GMT -5
Good Thread. Two things: First, I love it when Team A beats Team B, then the fans of Team B keep whining and whining, making excuses, and explaining how team B is better than Team A. Sorry, fans of Team B, but Team A gets to be acknowledged as the better team until the next time they meet. Because the only real way to settle these disputes is for the teams to meet on the court.Second, my favorite part of volleyball is the setting. I'm pleased to see Bugg progressing and becoming one of the colleges best setters. However, Hancock and Carlini are clearly the two best. It is amazing how vastly different their respective games are. One part of Carlini's game that is clearly lacking is her dumps. Not only is her execution lacking, but her timing and decision-making on her dumps is not great either. Still, like Hancock, she is an amazing setter and a lot of fun to watch. It's not whining. It's called growth, at light speed. Nobody is disputing that Stanford won fair and square. Vs. Stanford, it was PSU's SECOND week of volleyball that all the freshmen had to be incorporated into the team. Now 5 weeks later, the evidence of the team's progress is loud and clear. So with that said, nobody should have a problem of this fact because it's so obvious. Unless, team A that won earlier matchup is running scared, which is understandable, given team A barely survived the first time vs. a team full of freshmen. And week after week , also team A's fanbase' confidence is eroding, which is understandable as well. So no, it's not whining. It's called looking forward to the next meeting.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Sept 26, 2014 1:56:38 GMT -5
And once again my point is proven. Carlini may be the best PURE setter but Hancock is by far the best overall player and impacts matches WAY MORE than carlini does How was your point proven? The only way you could really prove your point, is to have Carlini play with 5 specific players, and then have Hancock play with the same 5 players. They both play for great teams, but Penn State clearly has much more talent than Wisconsin. As an unbiased person in this debate, Carlini and Hancock are clearly the two best setters in college vb, just like they were this year. Bugg was not even in the same conversation last season, although she arguably could be third best setter now. I'm unbiased. I'm not a fan of either program, in fact, I'm more of a stanford and bugg fan. Carlini by far has the most potential out of everyone in collegiate volleyball right now. She will be the starting setter for the Olympic team. Hancock? Not so much. BUT, her overall game right now is better than carlinis. As a setter, and setter alone, carlini is better. But who impacts matches and who I rather have on my team, Hancock takes that.
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Post by psumaui on Sept 26, 2014 4:01:48 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to a Stanford vs Penn State rematch and hope it is in Oklahoma instead of one of the regional sites.
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Post by roger on Sept 26, 2014 5:41:43 GMT -5
crazy STAT? Counted the number of times in the 3rd set that a player went to the floor for a dig or a serve reception: Wisconsin 8 times PSU 14 times Now does this indicated more determined play or does it indicate that the player made a poor read or was in a poor position?
The winner in this instance of "The Custodian Award" is Dom.
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Post by jmonster on Sept 26, 2014 7:11:26 GMT -5
Does anyone understand the outside the antenna call against Micha in the second set? She was at the 10 foot line by the stands and sends the ball across the court and it comes down 2 feet across the net. Watching it again, the ball crossed the net just past the middle of the court. The official was seated right by the antenna. There is no way he could have thought that ball went over his head for it to be outside the antenna. Regardless, it was another terrific play by Micha (and Megan for the up).
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Post by akbar on Sept 26, 2014 7:19:06 GMT -5
Does anyone understand the outside the antenna call against Micha in the second set? She was at the 10 foot line by the stands and sends the ball across the court and it comes down 2 feet across the net. Watching it again, the ball crossed the net just past the middle of the court. The official was seated right by the antenna. There is no way he could have thought that ball went over his head for it to be outside the antenna. Regardless, it was another terrific play by Micha (and Megan for the up). I assumed she was "off the court" or playing surface when she played. If that wasn't the call I think the refs blew their whistles too soon and assumed the play was impossible, in that case they were wrong , dumbfounded and failed to correct themselves. Micha consistently impresses me what a smooth athlete she is.
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Post by wiscvball on Sept 26, 2014 7:47:31 GMT -5
Does anyone understand the outside the antenna call against Micha in the second set? She was at the 10 foot line by the stands and sends the ball across the court and it comes down 2 feet across the net. Watching it again, the ball crossed the net just past the middle of the court. The official was seated right by the antenna. There is no way he could have thought that ball went over his head for it to be outside the antenna. Regardless, it was another terrific play by Micha (and Megan for the up). I assumed she was "off the court" or playing surface when she played. If that wasn't the call I think the refs blew their whistles too soon and assumed the play was impossible, in that case they were wrong , dumbfounded and failed to correct themselves. Micha consistently impresses me what a smooth athlete she is. Yeah, I think it was because she was no longer on the playing surface (wood) and played the ball back onto the court. It looked like she asked the ref about it after the whistle and the ref motioned to the end of the court surface. A small mistake on an otherwise sensational night for her.
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Post by MTC on Sept 26, 2014 8:31:24 GMT -5
Does Penn State have another setter for next season besides Weiskircher? The Nittany Lions have had great setters for as long as I've followed them. They always seem to have a starting setter that puts her name in the record books, but then also the team tends to have a highly heralded prep setter that doesn't work out and the only legacy she leaves behind is from her butt impression on the bench. I think it'd be a shame if Penn State doesn't have a great setter to feed their amazing hitters after Hancock graduates. Bryanna Weiskricher is already there and she looks pretty darn good. She would be starting for most other teams.
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Post by volleypaul on Sept 26, 2014 9:11:15 GMT -5
Does anyone understand the outside the antenna call against Micha in the second set? She was at the 10 foot line by the stands and sends the ball across the court and it comes down 2 feet across the net. Watching it again, the ball crossed the net just past the middle of the court. The official was seated right by the antenna. There is no way he could have thought that ball went over his head for it to be outside the antenna. Regardless, it was another terrific play by Micha (and Megan for the up). I assumed she was "off the court" or playing surface when she played. If that wasn't the call I think the refs blew their whistles too soon and assumed the play was impossible, in that case they were wrong , dumbfounded and failed to correct themselves. Micha consistently impresses me what a smooth athlete she is. I think they call was that she was off the playing surface, which makes sense. Her save made it over the net. And I agree: Micha is a great athlete. Love watching her play. I don't understand why some people are dismissing her potential. She's proven that she can learn and get better. Not to add to the whole "who is the better setter" debate, but you can't teach athleticism. She is by far the most athletic setter in the college game right now.
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Post by Boof1224 on Sept 26, 2014 9:28:17 GMT -5
So I know psu has a lot of talents and very athletic players. Many are young also. Does anybody think the rate at which they improves has anything to do with Salima being back on bench. If u look back to the start of that 4peat it was Salima and rose that built and coached those teams first two years. Just curious to see how big of an impact people think Salima is having on her players. I've heard like rose, she's a very smart coach and her players love her.
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Post by Boof1224 on Sept 26, 2014 9:30:19 GMT -5
Just seems to me rose and Salima on same sideline together again is pretty wicked combination. Lol
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