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Post by jgrout on Oct 26, 2014 21:54:19 GMT -5
Have to think Washington is the favorite. They have played better (at least based on games scores), Beside the head to head - they appear to have the slightly 'easier' schedule remaining, and they do get the head to head at home. Conversely, Stanford has more room left for improvement than Washington and yet are still undefeated. For example, Lutz has tremendous room for improvement as a blocker. Stanford's passing can become more consistent. Howard is still adjusting to faster sets in both the front and back row.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 26, 2014 21:57:15 GMT -5
I think he just meant that they play all the same teams, except Stanford is going to have to play more of them on the road (including the Huskies themselves). Washington does have to go to the mountains, though, which (besides Maples) is where they lost on the road last year.
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Post by Sbilo on Oct 26, 2014 22:11:04 GMT -5
Almost assuredly, Stanford at #1 and Washington at #2 in the AVCA poll. Thank you to Texas for losing to Oklahoma. I love how 2 Pac 12 teams are in the top of the poll.
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Post by FTLOG on Oct 26, 2014 22:27:51 GMT -5
I think he just meant that they play all the same teams, except Stanford is going to have to play more of them on the road (including the Huskies themselves). Washington does have to go to the mountains, though, which (besides Maples) is where they lost on the road last year. Yeah and based on what I saw this weekend, I think the LA trip for both schools will be really hard to get through without a loss. I would still give UW the edge going forward but I also think overall Stanford is undefeated against a more difficult schedule.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 26, 2014 22:35:44 GMT -5
I think he just meant that they play all the same teams, except Stanford is going to have to play more of them on the road (including the Huskies themselves). Washington does have to go to the mountains, though, which (besides Maples) is where they lost on the road last year. Yeah and based on what I saw this weekend, I think the LA trip for both schools will be really hard to get through without a loss. I would still give UW the edge going forward but I also think overall Stanford is undefeated against a more difficult schedule. Well, they both survived five-setters at home with the B1G powers. I don't think the SOS is terribly different. UW went to Provo to play BYU, Stanford went to Nebraska to play the Huskers. None of that really matters anyway. The decision will happen on the court. (And maybe again in the tournament.) Four more weeks to go before we find out if either will make it to the last week undefeated.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 26, 2014 23:36:47 GMT -5
Three Two pablo upsets this week: ASU over Oregon, OSU over ASU, WSU over Utah.
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Post by baywatcher on Oct 27, 2014 2:52:24 GMT -5
SOS Washington v Stanford; Byu and Wisconsin sort of equals Penn State Nebraska, but Gonzaga Portland State Boise st al does not equal Iowa State Duke Illinois San Diego Santa Clara. Northrodge.. Stanford deserves a higher ranking. That gets Stanford squat when they fly up to Seattle. Boy, I hope both are undefeated, if for no other reason than to assure Stanford stays out of th Washington regional.
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 27, 2014 9:20:42 GMT -5
When I claimed Washington was playing slightly better (based on game scores) than Stanford - I said this because in Conference, Washington has won a higher % of points than Stanford. This doesn't mean everything, it may not mean very much - but it does mean somthing when trying to compare the two 'equal' teams. I think this is what Pablo picked up that caused Washington to pass Stanford.
The RPI SOS is going to strongly favor Stanford - and Stanford will end up with the better RPI regardless of who wins conference.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 27, 2014 10:02:29 GMT -5
Three pablo upsets this week: ASU over Oregon, OSU over ASU, WSU over Utah. I actually think OSU over ASU wasn't technically an upset due to HCA. (At least, Rich Kern had it "blue")
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 27, 2014 10:14:24 GMT -5
Three pablo upsets this week: ASU over Oregon, OSU over ASU, WSU over Utah. I actually think OSU over ASU wasn't technically an upset due to HCA. (At least, Rich Kern had it "blue") Yes, that's right. And I even showed it that way in my own post! So I have no excuse for getting it wrong last night.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 27, 2014 10:21:30 GMT -5
I actually think OSU over ASU wasn't technically an upset due to HCA. (At least, Rich Kern had it "blue") Yes, that's right. And I even showed it that way in my own post! So I have no excuse for getting it wrong last night. The adrenaline from those two deuce sets against the Buffs clouded your judgment, obvs.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 27, 2014 10:28:56 GMT -5
Yes, that's right. And I even showed it that way in my own post! So I have no excuse for getting it wrong last night. The adrenaline from those two deuce sets against the Buffs clouded your judgment, obvs. That was one of the more tense and exciting sweeps I've been to.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 27, 2014 10:53:40 GMT -5
Here are C4ndlelight's Midseason All-PAC Honors:
POY: Vansant COY: JMac FOY: Marshall SOY: Bugg LOY: Gilbert
All-PAC Team: Vansant, UW Sybeldon, UW Scambray, UW Ajanaku, STAN Lutz, STAN Bugg, STAN Kingdon, ARIZ Bettendorf, ORE Buechler, UCLA Lowe, UCLA Gardner, ASU Bricio, USC Simpson, COLO Marshall, OSU
HM: Snuka (ARIZ); Higgins (CAL); Schonewise (CAL); Austin (COLO); Brenner (OREG); Benson (OREG); Nady (OREG); Nassar (OSU); Boukather (STAN); Burgess (STAN); Gilbert (STAN); Nwanebu (USC); Wade (UW); Holt (WSU)
*[The actual awards would likely trade out some of the freshman for the Stanford girls, but 5 Card vs 2 Husky honorees felt really weird)
All-Freshman: Marshall, OSU (FOY) Lutz, STAN Scambray, UW Jones, UW Buechler, UCLA Pfefferle, COLO Anae, UTAH
HM: Jacobson (ARIZ); Harker (ASU) Simpson (COLO); Scott (OREG); Shebby (OREG); Trueman (UTAH); Tanner (UW)
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 27, 2014 11:07:27 GMT -5
Are Lutz and Bugg really more important to Stanford's success than Burgess?
With Colorado, you need to identify which Simpson, but I assume you mean T. Simpson.
Interesting that as the rules favor 6-2 offenses, we see fewer and fewer setters showing up in these honors.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 27, 2014 11:11:34 GMT -5
Are Lutz and Bugg really more important to Stanford's success than Burgess? With Colorado, you need to identify which Simpson, but I assume you mean T. Simpson. Interesting that as the rules favor 6-2 offenses, we see fewer and fewer setters showing up in these honors. These are rather stats-driven, and Burgess' numbers just aren't on the level of the others. Lutz and Bugg are way at the top for their positions, whereas Burgess' numbers sadly are not. Brenner is in a similar bind. What's really interesting is how much Boukather has cooled off--she was the superstar in Week 1 (regression to the mean?) T. Simpson for All-PAC, G. Simpson for Frosh HM. It's kind of a stretch getting to 7 for the HM list, but it was even worse last year and they still did it (why don't they make the HM for players that were actually close?) There are lots of 6-2s, but what's weirder is that relatively few of the 5-1 setters are really exceptional, when there are several very good setters in 6-2s.
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