RPI Futures 10-26

[bluepenquin]

1. Texas (24-1, 15-1)
2. Florida State (29-1, 17-1)
3. Stanford (28-2, 18-2)
4. Washington (30-1, 19-1)
5. North Carolina (25-3, 16-2)
6. Wisconsin (27-3, 18-2)
7. Oregon (23-7, 13-7)
8. Florida (23-5, 17-1)
9. Colorado State (29-2, 17-1)
10. Penn State (29-4, 17-3)
11. Arizona (24-8, 13-7)
12. Nebraska (20-9, 14-6)
13. Kentucky (26-5, 15-3)
14. BYU (25-4, 16-2)
15. Illinois (23-8, 15-5)
16. Kansas State (23-7, 10-6)
17. Kansas (20-10, 8-8)
18. UCF (26-6, 19-1)
19. Oklahoma (20-10, 10-6)
20. UCLA (20-11, 11-9)
21. Marquette (24-7, 14-4)
22. Duke (22-7, 14-4)
23. Texas A&M (20-9, 12-6)
24. USC (16-14, 9-11)
25. Hawaii (21-6, 13-3)
26. Arizona State (21-11, 11-9)
27. Ohio State (21-11, 12-8)
28. Alabama (24-8, 12-6)
29. Iowa State (15-12, 7-9)
30. Ohio (23-5, 15-1)
31. San Diego (20-10, 13-5)
32. LSU (18-9, 13-5)
33. Lipscomb (20-7, 13-1)
34. Cal State Northridge (20-8, 11-5)
35. Colorado (18-14, 10-10)
36. SMU (25-7, 14-6)
37. Western Kentucky (27-5, 15-1)
38. Miami-FL (19-10, 12-6)
39. Arkansas-Little Rock (25-5, 19-1)
40. Illinois State (23-6, 17-1)
41. Long Beach State (24-6, 14-2)
42. Loyola Marymount (23-7, 11-7)
43. Purdue (24-8, 14-6)
44. Oregon State (18-13, 8-12)
45. Pittsburgh (25-6, 13-5)
46. Creighton (22-9, 15-3)
47. Michigan State (18-13, 11-9)
48. Michigan (14-16, 9-11)
49. Xavier (20-10, 13-5)
50. Wyoming (24-7, 13-5)
51. Minnesota (19-12, 9-11)
52. Ole Miss (23-9, 9-9)
53. Louisville (18-12, 10-8)
54. Northwestern (18-13, 8-12)
55. Baylor (15-16, 5-11)
56. American (25-5, 15-1)
57. Santa Clara (20-11, 10-8)
58. Memphis (25-9, 15-5)
59. Clemson (22-10, 10-8)
60. NC State (18-12, 7-11)
61. Pacific (22-9, 11-7)
62. Utah (15-16, 5-15)
63. Appalachian State (23-7, 13-7)
64. Rice (23-7, 13-3)
65. UNLV (24-9, 12-6)
66. Missouri State (21-9, 14-4)
67. Arkansas (16-15, 10-8)
68. Texas-Arlington (25-7, 15-5)
69. West Virginia (16-14, 6-10)
70. Tulsa (19-12, 11-9)
71. Gonzaga (18-11, 10-8)
72. Coastal Carolina (22-6, 11-3)
73. Butler (21-9, 13-5)
74. Denver (25-6, 13-3)
75. Yale (17-7, 12-2)
76. Temple (22-10, 13-7)
77. Virginia (16-15, 9-9)
78. Texas Tech (18-10, 6-10)
79. UMKC (24-5, 12-2)
80. VCU (16-12, 9-5)
81. Wichita State (19-9, 13-5)
82. Seton Hall (24-9, 13-5)
83. Florida Gulf Coast (19-10, 11-3)
84. Central Arkansas (20-9, 15-1)
85. Dayton (25-7, 12-2)
86. Towson (26-5, 12-4)
87. Furman (20-7, 13-3)
88. South Dakota (19-10, 13-3)
89. Northern Iowa (20-10, 14-4)
90. Virginia Tech (14-17, 7-11)
91. New Mexico (18-13, 10-8)
92. UNC Wilmington (21-9, 11-5)
93. George Washington (19-9, 10-4)
94. Wisconsin-Milwaukee (16-12, 10-4)
95. Texas-San Antonio (18-9, 14-2)
96. San Francisco (16-14, 9-9)
97. LIU Brooklyn (22-7, 13-1)
98. Northern Kentucky (19-9, 8-6)
99. Harvard (17-6, 10-4)
100. Missouri (17-16, 8-10)

[trianglevolleyball]

SO, UCF, Illinois State, UALR, Ohio and Lipscomb all need to win their conference tourneys for some of these borderline Big Ten schools to make the tourney.

[trojansc]

Oct 26, 2014 22:13:27 GMT -5 trianglevolleyball said:

SO, UCF, Illinois State, UALR, Ohio and Lipscomb all need to win their conference tourneys for some of these borderline Big Ten schools to make the tourney.

Not quite, it's complicated, and it may be even more complicated or become clearer over the next few weeks.

I have more concern for Michigan than MSU of making the tournament, I think Purdue will be okay, and still not sure on Minnesota

[chipNdink]

So regionals would look like:

at ISU:
1. Texas vs 16. KSU
8. Florida vs 9. CSU
at Louisville:
2. FSU vs. 15. Illinois
7. Oregon vs 10. Penn St.
at Minnesota:
3. Stanford vs 14. BYU
6. Wisconsin vs 11. Arizona
at Seattle:
4. Washington vs 13. Kentucky
5. North Carolina vs 12. Nebraska

I think Texas and Washington would like their regionals, and Penn St. would also be happy. Stanford would have the toughest regional.

[ay2013]

Oct 26, 2014 22:50:16 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Oct 26, 2014 22:13:27 GMT -5 trianglevolleyball said:

SO, UCF, Illinois State, UALR, Ohio and Lipscomb all need to win their conference tourneys for some of these borderline Big Ten schools to make the tourney.

Not quite, it's complicated, and it may be even more complicated or become clearer over the next few weeks.

I have more concern for Michigan than MSU of making the tournament, I think Purdue will be okay, and still not sure on Minnesota

The committee will at least TRY to get Minnesota back to their regional, which means giving them a bid and probably placing them in the Kentucky or second Big 12 team subregional.

while I don't think it's likely, The middle of the Big 10 might beat up on each other so much that ALL the M's (Minnesota, Michigan, MSU) miss the tournament, and Northwestern, leaving only 6 Big 10 teams in the tournament. I'd be ok with that

[ay2013]

Oct 26, 2014 23:49:24 GMT -5 chipNdink said:

So regionals would look like:

at ISU:
1. Texas vs 16. KSU
8. Florida vs 9. CSU
at Louisville:
2. FSU vs. 15. Illinois
7. Oregon vs 10. Penn St.
at Minnesota:
3. Stanford vs 14. BYU
6. Wisconsin vs 11. Arizona
at Seattle:
4. Washington vs 13. Kentucky
5. North Carolina vs 12. Nebraska

I think Texas and Washington would like their regionals, and Penn St. would also be happy. Stanford would have the toughest regional.

and what's the point of this? seeds NEVER go strictly by RPI. If all the records were to shake out like this. Even among the top 5, Stanford and Washington would have far more wins over top 25 RPI teams than FSU (hard to see both of them seeded below FSU), Also North Carolina as a the 5 seed when Wisconsin will end up with a better record against top 25 teams both in wins and win percentage? That's not happening.

[chipNdink]

Oct 27, 2014 0:30:57 GMT -5 ay2013 said:

Oct 26, 2014 23:49:24 GMT -5 chipNdink said:

So regionals would look like:

at ISU:
1. Texas vs 16. KSU
8. Florida vs 9. CSU
at Louisville:
2. FSU vs. 15. Illinois
7. Oregon vs 10. Penn St.
at Minnesota:
3. Stanford vs 14. BYU
6. Wisconsin vs 11. Arizona
at Seattle:
4. Washington vs 13. Kentucky
5. North Carolina vs 12. Nebraska

I think Texas and Washington would like their regionals, and Penn St. would also be happy. Stanford would have the toughest regional.

and what's the point of this? seeds NEVER go strictly by RPI. If all the records were to shake out like this. Even among the top 5, Stanford and Washington would have far more wins over top 25 RPI teams than FSU (hard to see both of them seeded below FSU), Also North Carolina as a the 5 seed when Wisconsin will end up with a better record against top 25 teams both in wins and win percentage? That's not happening.

OK, switch FSU and Stanford then, and North Carolina and Wisconsin:

at ISU:
1. Texas vs 16. KSU
8. Florida vs 9. CSU
at Minnesota:
2. Stanford vs. 15. Illinois
7. Oregon vs 10. Penn St.
at Louisville:
3. FSU vs 14. BYU
6. North Carolina vs 11. Arizona
at Seattle:
4. Washington vs 13. Kentucky
5. Wisconsin vs 12. Nebraska

Looks like you just made life tougher for Washington (and Penn St.), and easier (by dropping their seeds??) for FSU and North Carolina.

[ay2013]

Oct 27, 2014 1:16:21 GMT -5 chipNdink said:

Oct 27, 2014 0:30:57 GMT -5 ay2013 said:

and what's the point of this? seeds NEVER go strictly by RPI. If all the records were to shake out like this. Even among the top 5, Stanford and Washington would have far more wins over top 25 RPI teams than FSU (hard to see both of them seeded below FSU), Also North Carolina as a the 5 seed when Wisconsin will end up with a better record against top 25 teams both in wins and win percentage? That's not happening.

OK, switch FSU and Stanford then, and North Carolina and Wisconsin:

at ISU:
1. Texas vs 16. KSU
8. Florida vs 9. CSU
at Minnesota:
2. Stanford vs. 15. Illinois
7. Oregon vs 10. Penn St.
at Louisville:
3. FSU vs 14. BYU
6. North Carolina vs 11. Arizona
at Seattle:
4. Washington vs 13. Kentucky
5. Wisconsin vs 12. Nebraska

Looks like you just made life tougher for Washington (and Penn St.), and easier (by dropping their seeds??) for FSU and North Carolina.

Except that in this model Washington has one loss, Stanford has two, and FSU has 1 and Texas has 1....if this were to all actually play out it means the UW wins the Pac-12 crown AND has more top 25 wins than Texas and FSU...That doesn't sound like a 4 seed to me, sounds like a #1 overall.

[chipNdink]

Oct 27, 2014 1:19:42 GMT -5 ay2013 said:

Oct 27, 2014 1:16:21 GMT -5 chipNdink said:

OK, switch FSU and Stanford then, and North Carolina and Wisconsin:

at ISU:
1. Texas vs 16. KSU
8. Florida vs 9. CSU
at Minnesota:
2. Stanford vs. 15. Illinois
7. Oregon vs 10. Penn St.
at Louisville:
3. FSU vs 14. BYU
6. North Carolina vs 11. Arizona
at Seattle:
4. Washington vs 13. Kentucky
5. Wisconsin vs 12. Nebraska

Looks like you just made life tougher for Washington (and Penn St.), and easier (by dropping their seeds??) for FSU and North Carolina.

Except that in this model Washington has one loss, Stanford has two, and FSU has 1 and Texas has 1....if this were to all actually play out it means the UW wins the Pac-12 crown AND has more top 25 wins than Texas and FSU...That doesn't sound like a 4 seed to me, sounds like a #1 overall.

OK, assuming Washington wins the Pac-12:

at Seattle:
1. Washington vs 16. KSU
8. Florida vs 9. CSU
at ISU:
2. Texas vs. 15. Illinois
7. Oregon vs 10. Penn St.
at Louisville:
3. FSU vs 14. BYU
6. North Carolina vs 11. Arizona
at Minnesota:
4. Stanford vs 13. Kentucky
5. Wisconsin vs 12. Nebraska

Let's hope this happens for Washington! But poor Texas, Penn St., Stanford, and Wisconsin ... ouch!

[ay2013]

Oct 27, 2014 1:32:43 GMT -5 chipNdink said:

Oct 27, 2014 1:19:42 GMT -5 ay2013 said:

Except that in this model Washington has one loss, Stanford has two, and FSU has 1 and Texas has 1....if this were to all actually play out it means the UW wins the Pac-12 crown AND has more top 25 wins than Texas and FSU...That doesn't sound like a 4 seed to me, sounds like a #1 overall.

OK, assuming Washington wins the Pac-12:

at Seattle:
1. Washington vs 16. KSU
8. Florida vs 9. CSU
at ISU:
2. Texas vs. 15. Illinois
7. Oregon vs 10. Penn St.
at Louisville:
3. FSU vs 14. BYU
6. North Carolina vs 11. Arizona
at Minnesota:
4. Stanford vs 13. Kentucky
5. Wisconsin vs 12. Nebraska

Let's hope this happens for Washington! But poor Texas, Penn St., Stanford, and Wisconsin ... ouch!

I'm ok with that