bluepenquin
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 28, 2014 17:09:57 GMT -5
I don't see how BYU is 'already out of the game'. They have a (clear) path to a top 16 RPI and WCC Championship. That may not guarantee a seed, but I would think it certainly puts them in the serious conversation for a seed. If they win out, 0-2 v RPI Top 25, 3-1 v 26-50 (2nd number could jump if one of the mid-level WCC wins out, but if LMU continues it's injury slide it'd be 1-1). That's not even close to a seed resume, regardless of RPI rating. I would suggest their resume - especially when looking at their Pablo rating - is very much worthy of a seed. However, we live in a world in which RPI greatly determines seeds. Someone else mentioned this earlier in another thread - BYU already gets 'screwed' by the RPI, then to use RPI again to determine Top 25 and Top 50 wins is insane. By virture of RPI, BYU is in consideration of a seed, but then to take 'points away' because they didn't have any wins in the RPI top 25... I have said this before - I am good with using RPI to start the discussion for who gets a seed or a bid. Then look at other factors that may indicate that RPI is wrong in a certain direction (like Pablo) and adjust from there. Don't compound the errors already in RPI to begin with. Not saying your are wrong - I have no idea what the committe thinks and will do, but I would hope that BYU (if they continue to win) would get strong consideration for a seed.
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Post by gogophers on Oct 28, 2014 17:10:56 GMT -5
With Mpls, the weather that time of year is always a wildcard. A good snow storm will probably depress attendance.
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Post by tomclen on Oct 28, 2014 17:13:58 GMT -5
2,000 is a good crowd for a regional final without the home-team playing.
I shudder to think what the Seattle crowd will be like if UW isn't playing. It could be ugly, especially if the weather/traffic is bad.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 28, 2014 17:22:19 GMT -5
If they win out, 0-2 v RPI Top 25, 3-1 v 26-50 (2nd number could jump if one of the mid-level WCC wins out, but if LMU continues it's injury slide it'd be 1-1). That's not even close to a seed resume, regardless of RPI rating. I would suggest their resume - especially when looking at their Pablo rating - is very much worthy of a seed. However, we live in a world in which RPI greatly determines seeds. Someone else mentioned this earlier in another thread - BYU already gets 'screwed' by the RPI, then to use RPI again to determine Top 25 and Top 50 wins is insane. By virture of RPI, BYU is in consideration of a seed, but then to take 'points away' because they didn't have any wins in the RPI top 25... I have said this before - I am good with using RPI to start the discussion for who gets a seed or a bid. Then look at other factors that may indicate that RPI is wrong in a certain direction (like Pablo) and adjust from there. Don't compound the errors already in RPI to begin with. Not saying your are wrong - I have no idea what the committe thinks and will do, but I would hope that BYU (if they continue to win) would get strong consideration for a seed. As an Oregon fan, I long ago had to accept that seeding/hosting/at-large selection isn't about how good you are, it's about how the Committee views your resume. BYU only has 1 Top 25 win even by Pablo (and that team was playing without its starting OH!), and I don't think that'll be a Top 25 win by the end of the season either, so RPI v Pablo isn't killing them there. BYU's woes are self-inflicted. They did a very poor job scheduling this year. (Why do you fly to Morgantown to play WVU, IUPUI and Toledo?) If you're an upper mid-major and know all the top teams in your conference are down and rebuilding, you have to schedule more than 2 matches OOC against teams good enough to get an at-large berth if you want to get a seed. They didn't and lost both the matches they did schedule, and this is where they are.
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