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Post by timduckforlife on Nov 27, 2014 4:08:42 GMT -5
I think you'll see UW move to #2 and Stanford to #3 or 4
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Post by volleyfan24 on Nov 27, 2014 4:11:44 GMT -5
As long as the Washington-hosting-Stanford HUSKY team shows up for the regional, I don't think they can lose. But if the Washington-visiting-Colorado HUSKY team shows up they CAN lose. Some good UW teams have lost tournament matches in Hec Ed: to BYU (in round 2); to Nebraska after being up 2-0 and big 5th set lead; and to Cal in their NC year. The BYU loss was an upset, but the Cal loss was certainly not (it was the third win by Cal over UW that year). But the killer was that Nebraska loss. No matter how much I want to, I don't think I will forget that serving run by Banwarth. 9-3 the Huskies were up! And then nine serves later, the Huskers were up 12-9. That match stuns me it just is crazy volleyball is such a momentum sport but gosh the Huskers went on such a huge run. I think that moment was huge though for Larson I think she largely helped her team will that win. She was playing like her life depended on it. If its any consolation the Huskies showed they can dish up the same resiliency behind a single player and pull off the most unlikely of wins the way they did against SC last season.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 27, 2014 4:15:07 GMT -5
I think you'll see UW move to #2 and Stanford to #3 or 4 Are talking about seedings or the coaches poll? I argued earlier that if the match were a Husky sweep it would be hard for the Committee to seed Stanford ahead of Washington. But it wasn't a sweep. And I think I was wrong anyway. Stanford will still be seeded #1, I now think.
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Post by timduckforlife on Nov 27, 2014 4:20:53 GMT -5
I think you'll see UW move to #2 and Stanford to #3 or 4 Are talking about seedings or the coaches poll? I argued earlier that if the match were a Husky sweep it would be hard for the Committee to seed Stanford ahead of Washington. But it wasn't a sweep. And I think I was wrong anyway. Stanford will still be seeded #1, I now think. I was thinking coaches poll. I think it will be hard to rank Stanford ahead of UW because of the result of this match. But definitely both in the top 4.
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Post by sportsfun on Nov 27, 2014 4:21:56 GMT -5
I think you'll see UW move to #2 and Stanford to #3 or 4 Are you serious or is this just a joke post? I'm seriously asking.
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Post by sportsfun on Nov 27, 2014 4:36:54 GMT -5
I see that you're serious. Stanford dropping to three or four with a very rigorous preseason beating Nebraska, PSU, and Illinois and going undefeated until last night in the strongest conference, while dropping only 13 sets, and losing in four to Washington on their home court with record breaking attendance does not drop them down to three or four. The only team that could possibly take over the #1 spot would be Texas with a less rigorous preseason, playing fewer matches, and playing in a weaker conference. Washington was unequivocally the better team last night but the losses to Utah and Colorado and Stanford presumably clinching the Pac-12 title on Friday night is probably not going to have the majority of coaches putting Washington higher than Stanford.
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Post by timduckforlife on Nov 27, 2014 4:42:43 GMT -5
I see that you're serious. Stanford dropping to three or four with a very rigorous preseason beating Nebraska, PSU, and Illinois and going undefeated until last night in the strongest conference, while dropping only 13 sets, and losing in four to Washington on their home court with record breaking attendance does not drop them down to three or four. The only team that could possibly take over the #1 spot would be Texas with a less rigorous preseason, playing fewer matches, and playing in a weaker conference. Washington was unequivocally the better team last night but the losses to Utah and Colorado and Stanford presumably clinching the Pac-12 title on Friday night is probably not going to have the majority of coaches putting Washington higher than Stanford. The challenge though will be that a lot of coaches will see that at the end of the year, when it counts, Washington won. They were the better team. They served and passed Stanford out of the gym. I could definitely see something like - Texas, UW, Stanford, Wis, PSU as the top 5.
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Post by jgrout on Nov 27, 2014 7:33:48 GMT -5
What difference does the poll make... at this point, RPI matters, not the coaches' opinions. As I said earlier in the thread, the Cardinal will still be tops in RPI and will still be the number one seed in the tournament.
Stanford passed poorly and repeatedly gave up long runs on serve receive... that cost them the match. If they do it again, their season will be over. At this point, I am so unhappy with history repeating itself in crunch time I cannot judge how likely they are to fail... but my gut says Wisconsin and Washington will be in the national final because they want to win. As Don Shaw said years ago, you do not prepare for such matches: you recruit players who want to be in situations like last night and win. Rival coaches have been saying for years that Stanford is the place to go to lose well and I saw too bloody much of that last night on the court.
Gilbert should have been benched because she repeatedly choked, serving out... a problem of hers all season... and shanking balls left and right on serve receive. A team should NEVER have to hide their libero on serve receive, as the Cardinal tried to do last night. I had been wondering if her poor serving were mental or not: now, I am sure of it. One time at Maples, I saw Mike Sealy turn an outside hitter in set 1 into his libero for the rest of the match. Too bad that Stanford didn't have Sidney Brown ready to take over at L2 so they could have put the libero jersey on Brittany Howard and remove Gilbert, who was almost as bad as she was in her first attempt to be a libero several years ago.
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Post by kubricks on Nov 27, 2014 8:05:55 GMT -5
Fact is Stanford will be the PAC Champion, while Washington was NOT ABLE to defend its title from last year. Disappointing year when you cannot win your own league title. Go Stanford
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Post by dawgnerd on Nov 27, 2014 8:47:13 GMT -5
Cool. You are a few rows ahead of my seat. Really exciting night! Yes, it was full to the top row.
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Post by tomclen on Nov 27, 2014 9:27:01 GMT -5
They each have one loss on the season and even if you ignore the level of competition, Texas has 23 wins, Stanford has 28.
I'm not a math major, but that's 5 more wins (against stiffer competition).
Even Jerritt Elliott would say Stanford is #1. Even Jared Fogle says that.
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Post by tomclen on Nov 27, 2014 9:30:41 GMT -5
Fact is Stanford will be the PAC Champion, while Washington was NOT ABLE to defend its title from last year. Disappointing year when you cannot win your own league title. Go Stanford
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Post by tomclen on Nov 27, 2014 9:39:17 GMT -5
There's a nice page of photos at GoHuskies.com from last nights match....pre-match pictures, match, crowd, and post-match: GoHuskies.com Photo Page
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Post by rainbowbadger on Nov 27, 2014 9:48:34 GMT -5
As we say in Wisconsin, Holy Cow!
We in Casa Rainbow only caught sets 3 and 4, as we were tuning in after the end of the Wisco/Rutgers match, but let me tell you, I wish I'd been in the Alaska Arena last night. I have never seen such good volleyball played. Other UW, my hat's off to you. Your ball control, serving, and blocking was out of this world. Also the hitting... That was a hell of a senior night, and a well-earned win.
Stanford, my dears, you know you can do better than that. There were moments of brilliance, but I have never seen the Cardinal that out of system. All the same, I'm sure this loss will fire them up and make them play dominantly the rest of the season.
Hope to meet one of you in the Final Four... or better, the championship match.
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Post by Sbilo on Nov 27, 2014 10:21:48 GMT -5
Fact is Stanford will be the PAC Champion, while Washington was NOT ABLE to defend its title from last year. Disappointing year when you cannot win your own league title. Go Stanford I'm going to miss her
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