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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 22:17:22 GMT -5
8 frosh on the roster.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 26, 2014 22:18:04 GMT -5
No Purdue, No Minnesota, No MSU, please and thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 22:21:48 GMT -5
No ay2013 would be nice, too.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 26, 2014 22:26:01 GMT -5
I guess a slim case could be made for Bama deserving a tourney spot, but the fact that LSU is even in talks for a bid is crazy. Seems to me that LSU is on the bubble because their resume is questionable... just like the resume of Michigan State and Purdue. It also seems to me that the RPI has been exceedingly kind to B1G teams in the past... so it is BS this year because some B1G teams have underperformed? Who exactly has Michigan State beaten that makes them so 'deserving'? Both LSU and Bama's top win is against Texas A&M, a team with a Pablo rating of 44. MSU has the Oregon State win and now this one against Purdue, but they also don't a bad loss outside of LIU Brooklyn. Bama's worst loss is also to LIU Brooklyn, plus they got swept on the season by Mississippi. LSU has Miss State and Central Arkansas and played an incredibly easy schedule.
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Post by cw on Nov 26, 2014 22:26:15 GMT -5
Seems to me that LSU is on the bubble because their resume is questionable... just like the resume of Michigan State and Purdue. It also seems to me that the RPI has been exceedingly kind to B1G teams in the past... so it is BS this year because some B1G teams have underperformed? Who exactly has Michigan State beaten that makes them so 'deserving'? Who have LSU and Alabama beaten? Can you compare that to who they've lost to? Minny, MSU, and Purdon't are certainly more deserving. Though I must say they're not more deserving than the WCC and other Western teams that get shafted pretty much every year. My point is simply that there is nothing special about the resumes of MSU or Purdue (haven't looked at Minnesota) that make them more 'deserving' than Alabama or LSU. Both sets of teams struggled against the top of their conference and beat up on the lower half. None have particularly spectacular non-conference wins. All have some ugly losses.
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Post by cw on Nov 26, 2014 22:29:23 GMT -5
Seems to me that LSU is on the bubble because their resume is questionable... just like the resume of Michigan State and Purdue. It also seems to me that the RPI has been exceedingly kind to B1G teams in the past... so it is BS this year because some B1G teams have underperformed? Who exactly has Michigan State beaten that makes them so 'deserving'? Both LSU and Bama's top win is against Texas A&M, a team with a Pablo rating of 44. MSU has the Oregon State win and now this one against Purdue, but they also don't a bad loss outside of LIU Brooklyn. Bama's worst loss is also to LIU Brooklyn, plus they got swept on the season by Mississippi. LSU has Miss State and Central Arkansas and played an incredibly easy schedule. LSU also has a win against Kentucky.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 26, 2014 22:32:11 GMT -5
Seems to me that LSU is on the bubble because their resume is questionable... just like the resume of Michigan State and Purdue. It also seems to me that the RPI has been exceedingly kind to B1G teams in the past... so it is BS this year because some B1G teams have underperformed? Who exactly has Michigan State beaten that makes them so 'deserving'? Who have LSU and Alabama beaten? Can you compare that to who they've lost to? Minny, MSU, and Purdon't are certainly more deserving. Though I must say they're not more deserving than the WCC and other Western teams that get shafted pretty much every year. Yeah I agree that usually it is the west coast schools getting shafted but the story is much different this year. Pacific probably won't get in unfortunately, but blame Santa Clara for taking their spot. Talking about this year specifically, it's hard to argue that RPI is shafting anyone moreso than the Big Ten who will end up getting the same amount of bids as the BIg 12 and SEC (and possibly WCC and ACC).
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 26, 2014 22:33:10 GMT -5
Who have LSU and Alabama beaten? Can you compare that to who they've lost to? Minny, MSU, and Purdon't are certainly more deserving. Though I must say they're not more deserving than the WCC and other Western teams that get shafted pretty much every year. My point is simply that there is nothing special about the resumes of MSU or Purdue (haven't looked at Minnesota) that make them more 'deserving' than Alabama or LSU. Both sets of teams struggled against the top of their conference and beat up on the lower half. None have particularly spectacular non-conference wins. All have some ugly losses. What are Michigan State's ugly losses that I'm missing. It seems that Bama and LSU have much uglier.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 26, 2014 22:34:36 GMT -5
No ay2013 would be nice, too. Don't get personal now
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 26, 2014 22:34:48 GMT -5
Who have LSU and Alabama beaten? Can you compare that to who they've lost to? Minny, MSU, and Purdon't are certainly more deserving. Though I must say they're not more deserving than the WCC and other Western teams that get shafted pretty much every year. My point is simply that there is nothing special about the resumes of MSU or Purdue (haven't looked at Minnesota) that make them more 'deserving' than Alabama or LSU. Both sets of teams struggled against the top of their conference and beat up on the lower half. None have particularly spectacular non-conference wins. All have some ugly losses. Well, Purdue beat LSU, so that's something special about their resume that makes them more deserving (and LSU also lost to bubble team San Diego). All the B1G teams actually beat someone of tournament quality out of conference, which Alabama and LSU did not. And the ugly losses for SEC teams actually outnumber their "ok" wins. That's not good.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 22:38:18 GMT -5
No ay2013 would be nice, too. Don't get personal now Show just a little class. Minnesota doesn't deserve a bid. We know. Kick us again, please.
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Post by cw on Nov 26, 2014 22:40:18 GMT -5
My point is simply that there is nothing special about the resumes of MSU or Purdue (haven't looked at Minnesota) that make them more 'deserving' than Alabama or LSU. Both sets of teams struggled against the top of their conference and beat up on the lower half. None have particularly spectacular non-conference wins. All have some ugly losses. What are Michigan State's ugly losses that I'm missing. It seems that Bama and LSU have much uglier. I was looking at LIU Brooklyn.
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Post by alpacaone on Nov 26, 2014 22:42:31 GMT -5
Seems to me that LSU is on the bubble because their resume is questionable... just like the resume of Michigan State and Purdue. It also seems to me that the RPI has been exceedingly kind to B1G teams in the past... so it is BS this year because some B1G teams have underperformed? Who exactly has Michigan State beaten that makes them so 'deserving'? Both LSU and Bama's top win is against Texas A&M, a team with a Pablo rating of 44. MSU has the Oregon State win and now this one against Purdue, but they also don't a bad loss outside of LIU Brooklyn. Bama's worst loss is also to LIU Brooklyn, plus they got swept on the season by Mississippi. LSU has Miss State and Central Arkansas and played an incredibly easy schedule. Minnesota has Iowa State, Ohio State, Purdue
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Post by vbprisoner on Nov 26, 2014 22:43:52 GMT -5
ACC only deserves 3 bids.
Purdue and Minn. just needed to win today and both did not handle their business. I still think both are tournament quality teams but you have to seize the moment.
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Post by lionsfan on Nov 26, 2014 22:45:23 GMT -5
What are Michigan State's ugly losses that I'm missing. It seems that Bama and LSU have much uglier. I was looking at LIU Brooklyn. They are a tournament team, RPI of 62....not a great loss, but not one I'd call ugly. And LIU also beat Alabama.
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