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Post by Wiswell on Dec 15, 2014 15:13:43 GMT -5
I always thought most pediatricians could give a good assessment of how tall a kid might be. Although Carlini doesn't seem the norm (what else?!) given her growth spurt/parents' height. I think she's a generation removed from the height factory though.
Bates had a little spurt not too long ago. She was a 5'9 recruit for Dayton when she verballed which I think was 2012, so there's one. She's listed at 5'11. Which actually looks to be not an exaggeration.
This place is so educational! High ankle sprains, limnology, weasels, growth plates.
Now if someone could just solve the nonpoint runoff/algae problem in Madison lakes while we are getting all scientific-y that would be great.
And johndoe54, yeah, the new thread is basically "Infinity, and beyond" (the movie reference from a movie before these kids were born).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 15:19:08 GMT -5
I always thought most pediatricians could give a good assessment of how tall a kid might be. Although Carlini doesn't seem the norm (what else?!) given her growth spurt/parents' height. I think she's a generation removed from the height factory though. Bates had a little spurt not too long ago. She was a 5'9 recruit for Dayton when she verballed which I think was 2012, so there's one. Bates is also very thin/athletic...which makes sense why she grew later in HS...Hilley is also very thin..so..? never know. In other news, i'm very happy to hear she's working with Berg. Was SSS also working with her? this is great and will be invaluable to her.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 15, 2014 16:01:26 GMT -5
Now if someone could just solve the nonpoint runoff/algae problem in Madison lakes while we are getting all scientific-y that would be great. That's not a mystery - keep cows and ttheir waste manure out of streams, keep or make riparian buffers, install or reinstate wetlands upstream of inlets, funnel sewers through treatment plants, and change ag practices that promote excess addition of phosphates. That's a matter of money and political will.
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Dec 15, 2014 16:35:58 GMT -5
She's 5'11" going on 6'0" so an inch smaller than Courtney, same height as Bates, and same size as current USA setter, Alisha Glass (I had to put it in perspective, because I found myself wishing she was Lauren's height). It'd be awesome for a growth spurt since she's still a sophomore, but apparently she's also a good jumper. She's been training with Lindsey Berg which is amazing for her. Anyone know about current players (any team) that went through a growth spurt 2nd half of high school? For females, growth typically tapers off around menarche because estrogen causes the growth plates to fuse. They may get another inch or so, but are unlikely to get more. Athletes can have delayed menarche due to lower body fat percentage (less estrogen), so it's not impossible. However, I wouldn't be nearly so presumptuous as to ask any prep player details on that front. I heard somewhere that top level players are now getting x-rayed to determine the status of their growth plates. Is that really a thing? Seems excessive. Totally makes sense! Teach us more, oh wise one. I want to sound even smarter when I explain growth spurts to everyone!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 3:39:31 GMT -5
Nice video about Madison from area news. First time i've seen her. And while it just some practicing, it's visible she's strong, athletic and hits the ball. She's 6'2 and has a 28 inch vertical.
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Post by vbnerd on Dec 16, 2014 9:37:47 GMT -5
The biggest thing I've wondered about is whether we'll be able to have more flexibility with the lineup throughout the season. I've noticed that PSU, Purdue, Illinois, and Nebraska all have flexibliity in one or more positions - players who are ready to be subbed into the lineup if a matchup isn't working. They're "starter ready," though they might not always start. Sheffield seemed very locked into one lineup this year. Is the dropoff in talent/skill from Bates & Chappy to Frick really that significant? Wouldn't it benefit us to have the ability to switch things up a bit if one player is struggling? Penn State had young talent that had not started before. The freshman and even Whitney were going to have off days. Micha Hancock is an experienced starter and a senior and played every set. Wisconsin's lineup - Thomas, Thompson, Chapman, and not a senior but I'd put Carlini in there where they have earned the trust to be seen as the best and most reliable player at their position every night, all year long. Chapman hit below .000 vs Penn St but even at the end of the match if they gave her the ball, nobody is saying "oh no, not her." I think over two years Nelson has proved to be a better play than Blake, thought that's a matchup they did play with a little bit, and then Bates, when she struggled they wanted her to learn to play through it. If Kriskova was there I would guess that Bates would have had a shorter leash but they knew they needed her to grow up by December and for the most part I think that worked. Oh, and Morey, with Ito and Workman hurt, that wasn't a coaching decision, and she went and became DPOY so that certainly didn't hurt them.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 16, 2014 10:28:51 GMT -5
The biggest thing I've wondered about is whether we'll be able to have more flexibility with the lineup throughout the season. I've noticed that PSU, Purdue, Illinois, and Nebraska all have flexibliity in one or more positions - players who are ready to be subbed into the lineup if a matchup isn't working. They're "starter ready," though they might not always start. Sheffield seemed very locked into one lineup this year. Is the dropoff in talent/skill from Bates & Chappy to Frick really that significant? Wouldn't it benefit us to have the ability to switch things up a bit if one player is struggling? Penn State had young talent that had not started before. The freshman and even Whitney were going to have off days. Micha Hancock is an experienced starter and a senior and played every set. Wisconsin's lineup - Thomas, Thompson, Chapman, and not a senior but I'd put Carlini in there where they have earned the trust to be seen as the best and most reliable player at their position every night, all year long. Chapman hit below .000 vs Penn St but even at the end of the match if they gave her the ball, nobody is saying "oh no, not her." I think over two years Nelson has proved to be a better play than Blake, thought that's a matchup they did play with a little bit, and then Bates, when she struggled they wanted her to learn to play through it. If Kriskova was there I would guess that Bates would have had a shorter leash but they knew they needed her to grow up by December and for the most part I think that worked. Oh, and Morey, with Ito and Workman hurt, that wasn't a coaching decision, and she went and became DPOY so that certainly didn't hurt them. Well, Morey was going to be the libero, and that was a coaching decision. But yeah, she pretty much rules.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 16, 2014 10:50:27 GMT -5
What wasn't a coaching decision was the lack of cover for Morey. I spent all year worrying that Morey would take herself out by smashing off a bleacher or flipping over a side-board going after a ball. Lordy that young woman scared me some times.
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Dec 16, 2014 11:38:03 GMT -5
Nice video about Madison from area news. First time i've seen her. And while it just some practicing, it's visible she's strong, athletic and hits the ball. She's 6'2 and has a 28 inch vertical. That's great--I've seen the video, but didn't know about her vertical. Hopefully she has a nice transition to the college game. Does anyone know if Bates played RS in club/HS? She's developing a nice, all-around game for a freshman.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 16, 2014 12:08:53 GMT -5
Some people obviously like that view and some gyms provide no way to get it otherwise (although at the PAV I think there are bleachers behind the chairs), but I think those chairs are a disaster waiting to happen and should be removed.
On the other hand it's not like to don't run into the same thing at some basketball venues.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 16, 2014 12:14:29 GMT -5
Nice video about Madison from area news. First time i've seen her. And while it just some practicing, it's visible she's strong, athletic and hits the ball. She's 6'2 and has a 28 inch vertical. Yeah, you can't see much from that clip -- most of it is staged -- other than the foundation is all there. Seems like a level headed girl -- hard to believe she was surprised by the award, but that was pretty good acting if she wasn't. Also a good trait! I like the very last hit at the end of that clip where in the background she wacks it off the knee of a back row player who barely moves.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 16, 2014 12:28:58 GMT -5
I think Carlini was "surprised" by her Gatorade Award in class when she got it. I couldn't find the exact clip, but I did find something similar, and you can tell that even from where she was then compared to now that she has gotten stronger and more physical. What strike me both with Mellow Duello (yes, I am going to call her that) and Carlini is that they have great speaking skills for being teenagers. Sure, Duello's was probably done a few times, but Carlini live is just as if you've been talking to professional PR people in terms of smoothness in interviewing. Williams is also pretty articulate.
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Post by bucky415 on Dec 16, 2014 13:14:54 GMT -5
I am very confident that there will be people in their freshman class at Wisconsin who are likely to use the word "like" three times in a sentence in which none of those are needed.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 16, 2014 13:35:08 GMT -5
Like, how many?
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 16, 2014 14:26:03 GMT -5
I am very confident that there will be people in their freshman class at Wisconsin who are likely to use the word "like" three times in a sentence in which none of those are needed. Like, can I like this two or three times?
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