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Post by austintatious on Dec 21, 2014 9:51:57 GMT -5
I've always thought I'd make a good color commentator.. You would make a great color commentator IMO. You would absolutely have no peers in a Ohio St. vs PSU match. I see you with a drink in one hand and a mic in another ... they might have to bleep you now and then, but that's what adds color. I can hear it now. "The University is stopped once again by the bleep bleepin Nittany Lions of bleep bleep Penn State University. That bleeping Megan bleeping Courtney had 23 bleeping kills."
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Post by bigfan on Dec 21, 2014 16:26:09 GMT -5
He is better than Kiraly or Mowins or any of the wannabe,s. Sunderland is the best. How often do you have a current national coach calling games? it's a rare treat indeed. Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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roger
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Post by roger on Dec 21, 2014 19:54:34 GMT -5
I find the mute button welcome when watching volleyball. The chatter is distracting and seldom gives me any info that I cannot see on the tube. What I would like is a view of court that the ball is not on at the same time as in a double screen. Then I could see how the "D" is setting up.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 23, 2014 22:21:43 GMT -5
Just figured out one of the biggest problems with many volleyball broadcasts: they try to cram in too many replays.
And most of those replays are just not worth showing.
I came to this conclusion while re-watching a short segment of the BYU/Texas match. During one stretch of 9 points, they showed replays after EVERY SINGLE point. That's 9 points and 9 replays. For 3 of those 9 replays, they missed the serve.
Then, this evening, I have a football bowl game on...San Diego State vs Navy. And I was noticing the infrequency of replays, so I decided to take some notes. This sequence occurred midway thru the first quarter:
1st down Navy run - no replay
2nd down run with penalty - replay
1st down run - no replay
2nd down incomplete pass - no replay
huddle, come up to line timeout at 3rd and 5 - still no replay
3rd & 5 run touchdown - no replay
extra point - then two quick replays
SDSU kicks off - no replay
So there were eight (8) distinct breaks in the action with ample time for replays but they only showed replays two (2) times.
Football: 2 out of 8 breaks with replay.
Volleyball: 9 out of 9 points with replay.
If a highly produced college bowl game football broadcast can be done in a professional manner with replays only about one quarter of the time, why do volleyball directors feel the need to cram in a replay almost every single point, and as a result miss important action.
After plays in the football broadcast they were showing interaction with the players and coaches and subs coming in and out of the game.
Volleyball could easily lose 90 per cent of the replays that we see in a match and not only would we not miss anything important, but it would be an opportunity to focus on subs and matchups. And, it might mean the announcers would remain more focused on the action without the herky-jerky constant replays and missed seres.
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Post by zenyada on Dec 24, 2014 7:08:57 GMT -5
Poinsettia Bowl? Now that's desperate. Couldn't be much worth replaying, so that makes sense. Try walking the dog. If you don't have a dog, borrow the neighbors (and bring a baggie). Score some points and grab the girlfriend to do some last minute shopping at the mall. Anything.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 24, 2014 8:40:03 GMT -5
Poinsettia Bowl? Now that's desperate. Couldn't be much worth replaying, so that makes sense. Try walking the dog. If you don't have a dog, borrow the neighbors (and bring a baggie). Score some points and grab the girlfriend to do some last minute shopping at the mall. Anything. I have a dog. And a wife. So taking the girlfriend to the mall is out. Actually, it was a pretty good game...as far as middling bowl games go. (And it's the San Diego County Credit Union Ponsettia Bowl!) But, to my point, football broadcasters, who have plenty of down time for replays, don't find the need to replay every play. Volleyball broadcasters, who don't have the time, go replay-wild and miss so much of what fans need to know.
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nik12
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Post by nik12 on Dec 24, 2014 9:43:23 GMT -5
Poinsettia Bowl? Now that's desperate. Couldn't be much worth replaying, so that makes sense. Try walking the dog. If you don't have a dog, borrow the neighbors (and bring a baggie). Score some points and grab the girlfriend to do some last minute shopping at the mall. Anything. I have a dog. And a wife. So taking the girlfriend to the mall is out. Actually, it was a pretty good game...as far as middling bowl games go. (And it's the San Diego County Credit Union Ponsettia Bowl!) But, to my point, football broadcasters, who have plenty of down time for replays, don't find the need to replay every play. Volleyball broadcasters, who don't have the time, go replay-wild and miss so much of what fans need to know. Now that you've said it, thinking back on the last three games, I think I agree with you. Also, some of the replays aren't really worth it, like when they replay a point that wasn't particularly exciting. And then there are the potential replays they miss, like a really good dig (but they only replay the eventual hit that scores the point). Still, all in all, I thought ESPN did a pretty good job with the last three games, and I really like Karch Kiraly.
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Post by zenyada on Dec 24, 2014 11:27:23 GMT -5
Poinsettia Bowl? Now that's desperate. Couldn't be much worth replaying, so that makes sense. Try walking the dog. If you don't have a dog, borrow the neighbors (and bring a baggie). Score some points and grab the girlfriend to do some last minute shopping at the mall. Anything. I have a dog. And a wife. So taking the girlfriend to the mall is out. Actually, it was a pretty good game...as far as middling bowl games go. (And it's the San Diego County Credit Union Ponsettia Bowl!) But, to my point, football broadcasters, who have plenty of down time for replays, don't find the need to replay every play. Volleyball broadcasters, who don't have the time, go replay-wild and miss so much of what fans need to know. You're a funny guy, so I knew you'd take my ribbing in stride. To respond to your point, (and reiterate a point made earlier), I agree with you that vb is too fast pace to show so many replays that you're missing some serves, particularly at important times in a set. However for substitutions, I would prefer use of a player graphic for substitutions and match-up info because there are so damn many in the NCAA, that hearing even the incomplete lists of subs now for me detracts from the flow, and gets boring. Replays allow you to pick up subtle things that are going say with the block and adjustments being made.
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Post by mplssetter on Dec 26, 2014 2:28:19 GMT -5
I know sometimes they throw a mic on one of the coaches, but I'd like them to put a mic on the refs. It would be interesting to hear the conversations between the down ref and he coaches. Seems like they take a lot of verbal abuse from coaches.
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Post by rogero1 on Dec 26, 2014 5:06:26 GMT -5
I know sometimes they throw a mic on one of the coaches, but I'd like them to put a mic on the refs. It would be interesting to hear the conversations between the down ref and he coaches. Seems like they take a lot of verbal abuse from coaches. You have no idea of what the refs have to listen from the coaches. Some language would have to be censored for TV. OTOH, it is also quite amusing to hear those exchanges every so often.
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Post by volleydude444 on Dec 26, 2014 16:46:03 GMT -5
I have a dog. And a wife. So taking the girlfriend to the mall is out. Actually, it was a pretty good game...as far as middling bowl games go. (And it's the San Diego County Credit Union Ponsettia Bowl!) But, to my point, football broadcasters, who have plenty of down time for replays, don't find the need to replay every play. Volleyball broadcasters, who don't have the time, go replay-wild and miss so much of what fans need to know. You're a funny guy, so I knew you'd take my ribbing in stride. To respond to your point, (and reiterate a point made earlier), I agree with you that vb is too fast pace to show so many replays that you're missing some serves, particularly at important times in a set. However for substitutions, I would prefer use of a player graphic for substitutions and match-up info because there are so damn many in the NCAA, that hearing even the incomplete lists of subs now for me detracts from the flow, and gets boring. Replays allow you to pick up subtle things that are going say with the block and adjustments being made. Excellent points Tomclen about replays, couldn't agree more!!! Zenyada I love the idea of getting a graphic up for subs, even if the broadcasters are talking about something else you can see that a sub was made...furthermore it'd be great to get a camera shot of the sub happening....again the commentators don't have to talk about it but at least the fans will know it's happening and it keeps pace with the match.
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