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Post by soljah808 on Apr 1, 2015 18:57:54 GMT -5
but this is what akbar was saying ... that if there's support for hawaii being the clear number 1, it's because of their entire body of work so far ... and not based off of a single match against ucla. Thank god someone reads! You nitpicked his comment. Obviously just one game doesnt make the team. Wahinefan44 would probably be the first to admit to that. It was a general statement he made. Maybe he could have rephrased it....but pointing out something like that is so manini.
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Post by Fanbase on Apr 1, 2015 18:59:16 GMT -5
UCLA is puzzling. Not sure what the reason is for their struggles this year. Supporters are quick to point out the number of freshmen and younger players in their line-up, which is very true. No question they are very athletic, but as is often the case with young players they lack the poise and confidence at crunch time in close matches, for example recent 5 set matches with USC and Hawaii. However Speraw has been there 3 years and has had, if not the top recruiting class, very nearly so, each of those years (no doubt being the National team coach is a selling point), yet he is starting freshmen over some players he has coached for three years. I can't explain it, perhaps others have some thoughts.
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Post by akbar on Apr 1, 2015 20:05:12 GMT -5
You nitpicked his comment. Obviously just one game doesnt make the team. Wahinefan44 would probably be the first to admit to that. It was a general statement he made. Maybe he could have rephrased it....but pointing out something like that is so manini. obviously. Smh.
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Post by soljah808 on Apr 1, 2015 20:11:57 GMT -5
You nitpicked his comment. Obviously just one game doesnt make the team. Wahinefan44 would probably be the first to admit to that. It was a general statement he made. Maybe he could have rephrased it....but pointing out something like that is so manini. obviously. Smh. If it were so obvious to you, you wouldn't have felt the need to have brought it up. Just sayin'....
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Apr 1, 2015 21:20:48 GMT -5
If it were so obvious to you, you wouldn't have felt the need to have brought it up. Just sayin'.... well to be fair, akbar's original comment about ucla being a hot mess was also obviously a joke (well, part-truth, part-joke) ... and also more a dig at ucla than anything else ... sometimes, these shots aren't always aimed at hawaii ...
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Post by emmettgera on Apr 1, 2015 21:33:06 GMT -5
UCLA is puzzling. Not sure what the reason is for their struggles this year. Supporters are quick to point out the number of freshmen and younger players in their line-up, which is very true. No question they are very athletic, but as is often the case with young players they lack the poise and confidence at crunch time in close matches, for example recent 5 set matches with USC and Hawaii. However Speraw has been there 3 years and has had, if not the top recruiting class, very nearly so, each of those years (no doubt being the National team coach is a selling point), yet he is starting freshmen over some players he has coached for three years. I can't explain it, perhaps others have some thoughts. if you comment anything that isnt about Hawaii on a post of a match where Hawaii played, your comment will be ignored. I thought all the rumors were absurd, but it's true, Hawaii fans will hijack any thread. I say that all in good humor. I love Hawaii fans' enthusiasm. But to comment on your comment, I'm just confused as you are. I had forgotten that Speraw recruited a lot of these guys. He cleaned house on all of Scates' recruits and now his team is practically all guys he's recruited. You'd think after years of coaching them he'd have molded them into star players, but that can't be said about any of them, with maybe the exception of Stahl. I would always blame the players and their youth for their errors, but your comment is starting to make me question his coaching. Obviously this is a crazy statement to make, seeing as to how he has so much prior success elsewhere, but maybe the style of coaching he has done at UCI and for the national team has just not meshed well with UCLA.
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Post by kekoagoldenbear on Apr 1, 2015 21:34:38 GMT -5
UCLA is puzzling. Not sure what the reason is for their struggles this year. Supporters are quick to point out the number of freshmen and younger players in their line-up, which is very true. No question they are very athletic, but as is often the case with young players they lack the poise and confidence at crunch time in close matches, for example recent 5 set matches with USC and Hawaii. However Speraw has been there 3 years and has had, if not the top recruiting class, very nearly so, each of those years (no doubt being the National team coach is a selling point), yet he is starting freshmen over some players he has coached for three years. I can't explain it, perhaps others have some thoughts. I've been to both matches when they played Hawaii. The 1st night they came out fired up and Hawaii was just lethargic at the beginning but it was pretty obvious who the better team was. 2nd night they were just outplayed and outmatched. Setting is an issue and they can't pass to save their lives. From my understanding Steven O'Dell was the front-runner in the setter position and has left the team. Hagen Smith who has been the current starter is injured and Eric Matheis the 3rd option is the only setter left and he truly struggled the 2nd night. As for passing Jackson Bantle was pulled out the 2nd night because he struggled and so did JT Hatch who is a primary passer and offensively he just couldn't produce both nights against Hawaii's physical front line. Which leaves only Arnitz and Stahl as truly the only offensive options with Hatch on the bench. OPP Hessenauer has been hot and cold and he was a non-factor against Hawaii and was pulled out completely the 2nd night. Kersten and Sprague would be a factor if passing was there.
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Apr 1, 2015 21:39:10 GMT -5
UCLA is puzzling. Not sure what the reason is for their struggles this year. Supporters are quick to point out the number of freshmen and younger players in their line-up, which is very true. No question they are very athletic, but as is often the case with young players they lack the poise and confidence at crunch time in close matches, for example recent 5 set matches with USC and Hawaii. However Speraw has been there 3 years and has had, if not the top recruiting class, very nearly so, each of those years (no doubt being the National team coach is a selling point), yet he is starting freshmen over some players he has coached for three years. I can't explain it, perhaps others have some thoughts. if you comment anything that isnt about Hawaii on a post of a match where Hawaii played, your comment will be ignored. I thought all the rumors were absurd, but it's true, Hawaii fans will hijack any thread. I say that all in good humor. I love Hawaii fans' enthusiasm. But to comment on your comment, I'm just confused as you are. I had forgotten that Speraw recruited a lot of these guys. He cleaned house on all of Scates' recruits and now his team is practically all guys he's recruited. You'd think after years of coaching them he'd have molded them into star players, but that can't be said about any of them, with maybe the exception of Stahl. I would always blame the players and their youth for their errors, but your comment is starting to make me question his coaching. Obviously this is a crazy statement to make, seeing as to how he has so much prior success elsewhere, but maybe the style of coaching he has done at UCI and for the national team has just not meshed well with UCLA. well this is a first ... now hawaii fans are being accused of hijacking a thread that has "hawaii" in its title ... lol
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Post by soljah808 on Apr 1, 2015 21:48:56 GMT -5
UCLA is puzzling. Not sure what the reason is for their struggles this year. Supporters are quick to point out the number of freshmen and younger players in their line-up, which is very true. No question they are very athletic, but as is often the case with young players they lack the poise and confidence at crunch time in close matches, for example recent 5 set matches with USC and Hawaii. However Speraw has been there 3 years and has had, if not the top recruiting class, very nearly so, each of those years (no doubt being the National team coach is a selling point), yet he is starting freshmen over some players he has coached for three years. I can't explain it, perhaps others have some thoughts. if you comment anything that isnt about Hawaii on a post of a match where Hawaii played, your comment will be ignored. I thought all the rumors were absurd, but it's true, Hawaii fans will hijack any thread. I say that all in good humor. I love Hawaii fans' enthusiasm. I dont think we purposely ignore comments or questions not relating to Hawaii. Apologies if you feel that way. Nor do I believe Hawaii fans can hijack a thread where Hawaii is involved.lol Thats a first. Its just that we dont know enough or as much in depth info about the opponent than we do about our own team. So many of us back away from commenting on something we dont know much about.
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Post by emmettgera on Apr 2, 2015 1:03:09 GMT -5
Perhaps hijacking wasn't the most precise word choice, but you get what I mean Haha. All in good nature. Also, good mantra to live by: don't comment on something you don't know about. I respect that. Hawaii looks pretty damn good. Hoping they do well going into the postseason, kinda over UCIs current reign on things..
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Post by soljah808 on Apr 2, 2015 1:27:35 GMT -5
Perhaps hijacking wasn't the most precise word choice, but you get what I mean Haha. All in good nature. Also, good mantra to live by: don't comment on something you don't know about. I respect that. Hawaii looks pretty damn good. Hoping they do well going into the postseason, kinda over UCIs current reign on things.. I really hope so too. Its been quite a long time since Hawaii has been in the mpsf championship conversation....much less NCAA national championship conversation. The experience is there to make noise now as I dont see Hawaii being in the mix again til maybe next years 2015 class become Juniors and Seniors. Hawaii has the talent, experience, and determination to go far. Just hoping they can. Go Bows!
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