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Post by volleyguy on Jun 19, 2015 21:31:02 GMT -5
You're always irritated. Tell me something I don't know. You weren't offering an evaluation (e.g. She is not that good or Nebraska will be good regardless), nor were you suggesting that anyone was actually reconsidering, which might be interesting. Why would your words of caution be necessary? Put on your big boy britches and let it go. I think holidayhusker has a right to his opinion. No one enjoys having their comments called ridiculous. If Dorothy wants to explain why it is ridiculous, then it would be different. Until then lighten up a little. I like holiday--if he doesn't know that, I'm saying it now. He's old-school, basically a straight-shooter, and a bit ornery. Hell, I'll probably end up that way too, if not already. The big boy britches is one of his favorite references--I thought he'd recognize it. Whatever issues you may have with dot, please communicate them directly to him. I have no interest in being any part of whatever kind of crazy you have going on with him.
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Jun 19, 2015 21:31:19 GMT -5
I wonder if Molly would consider Wisconsin?
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 19, 2015 21:42:45 GMT -5
I wonder if Molly would consider Wisconsin? I dunno if she would after what happened to her eldest sister. Different staff and different kid, but if Maddie's experience at all contributed to Molly having second thoughts about Nebraska, it wouldn't be a stretch to think that Meghan's experience would lead Molly to be wary of Wisconsin. Also, with the loss of Morgan, Wisconsin needs a middle for 2016 more than we do an OH. All that being said, I would be more than happy to see Molly as a Badger. I just don't think those stars align.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 19, 2015 22:00:37 GMT -5
Im still holding out hope she comes to Hawaii, far fetched to the max, but her a Norene would constitute a pretty good class for Hawaii.
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Post by holidayhusker on Jun 20, 2015 6:57:42 GMT -5
This irritates me....why is it ridiculous?? We have just been talking about transfers and how important it is to have a good fit long term....then we have a player that de-commits due to possibly her sisters experiences and influence and then you two genius's think its ridiculous of me to say that Nebraska should tread carefully if she again showed interest? What is wrong with this picture? You're always irritated. Tell me something I don't know. You weren't offering an evaluation (e.g. She is not that good or Nebraska will be good regardless), nor were you suggesting that anyone was actually reconsidering, which might be interesting. Why would your words of caution be necessary? Put on your big boy britches and let it go. Offering evaluation? What? I explained exactly why I have misgivings. I have coached young ladies for years. A huge part of their game is mental and if they are committed to the idea of what we coaches are selling. Correct? Why would you want a player who obviously has some misgiving about a program no matter how talented. Then that emotion carries over to the entire team . You are absolutely correct. I am often irritated with statements like Dorothy made about post being ridiculous. A smart coach thinks of all these things and Dorothy should have seen this angle from a mile away and......obviously you didn't see it either.
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 20, 2015 7:49:17 GMT -5
You're always irritated. Tell me something I don't know. You weren't offering an evaluation (e.g. She is not that good or Nebraska will be good regardless), nor were you suggesting that anyone was actually reconsidering, which might be interesting. Why would your words of caution be necessary? Put on your big boy britches and let it go. Offering evaluation? What? I explained exactly why I have misgivings. I have coached young ladies for years. A huge part of their game is mental and if they are committed to the idea of what we coaches are selling. Correct? Why would you want a player who obviously has some misgiving about a program no matter how talented. Then that emotion carries over to the entire team . You are absolutely correct. I am often irritated with statements like Dorothy made about post being ridiculous. A smart coach thinks of all these things and Dorothy should have seen this angle from a mile away and......obviously you didn't see it either. My post (and dot's too) were in response to your initial post. As I said, your initial post didn't include those things I mentioned, and came across to me as unnecessary and a little petty. Hence, my remark.
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Post by holidayhusker on Jun 20, 2015 7:55:27 GMT -5
Offering evaluation? What? I explained exactly why I have misgivings. I have coached young ladies for years. A huge part of their game is mental and if they are committed to the idea of what we coaches are selling. Correct? Why would you want a player who obviously has some misgiving about a program no matter how talented. Then that emotion carries over to the entire team . You are absolutely correct. I am often irritated with statements like Dorothy made about post being ridiculous. A smart coach thinks of all these things and Dorothy should have seen this angle from a mile away and......obviously you didn't see it either. My post (and dot's too) were in response to your initial post. As I said, your initial post didn't include those things I mentioned, and came across to me as unnecessary and a little petty. Hence, my remark. . Gotcha, fair enough.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 20, 2015 8:08:07 GMT -5
I might regret diving in, but I will say that I understood where holidayhusker was coming from right away. Perhaps characterizing Molly as "waffling" is a little harsh, but I totally get it. Basically, from the player's sense, Molly's actions are hard to question. Nebraska was not her oldest sister's initial plan, and she went there kind of last-minute and had a good freshman season followed by a bit of a sophomore and junior slump. Her middle sister transferred from there to a mid-major. Molly herself committed to Nebraska at a fairly young age. She's a top-flight recruit and there are still high-caliber programs out there who'd love to have her. She has 5 months left before NLIs are signed, and she can afford to wait, so why not make sure she's making the right choice and not just going with Nebraska because at the time she originally committed, it was all in the family? But if I were Cook and Molly came back at this point after taking more visits and said, "Nope, it's cool, I really do want to be a Husker," I'd be... skeptical.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jun 20, 2015 8:37:49 GMT -5
I think the statement is probably more ridiculous than bitter. This irritates me....why is it ridiculous?? We have just been talking about transfers and how important it is to have a good fit long term....then we have a player that de-commits due to possibly her sisters experiences and influence and then you two genius's think its ridiculous of me to say that Nebraska should tread carefully if she again showed interest? What is wrong with this picture? I should have stated this better First and foremost I was defending the comments as not being bitter or sour grapes. I dont find it ridiculous that Nebraska should beware if she became interested again in Nebraska. The notion she would consider it was what I was speaking too. The ship has sailed. Ridiculous was obviously not the best choice of words. Totally unrealistic scenario would have been appropriate.
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 20, 2015 8:45:11 GMT -5
I might regret diving in, but I will say that I understood where holidayhusker was coming from right away. Perhaps characterizing Molly as "waffling" is a little harsh, but I totally get it. Basically, from the player's sense, Molly's actions are hard to question. Nebraska was not her oldest sister's initial plan, and she went there kind of last-minute and had a good freshman season followed by a bit of a sophomore and junior slump. Her middle sister transferred from there to a mid-major. Molly herself committed to Nebraska at a fairly young age. She's a top-flight recruit and there are still high-caliber programs out there who'd love to have her. She has 5 months left before NLIs are signed, and she can afford to wait, so why not make sure she's making the right choice and not just going with Nebraska because at the time she originally committed, it was all in the family? But if I were Cook and Molly came back at this point after taking more visits and said, "Nope, it's cool, I really do want to be a Husker," I'd be... skeptical. I understand and basically agree with what you just said, and what holidayhusker explained previously. A healthy dose of skepticism doesn't hurt. If such a scenario were to unfold, one party undoubtedly would approach the other first to gauge the level of interest, if any. This would then be the appropriate time for skepticism and frank discussions.
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 20, 2015 8:48:19 GMT -5
This irritates me....why is it ridiculous?? We have just been talking about transfers and how important it is to have a good fit long term....then we have a player that de-commits due to possibly her sisters experiences and influence and then you two genius's think its ridiculous of me to say that Nebraska should tread carefully if she again showed interest? What is wrong with this picture? I should have stated this better First and foremost I was defending the comments as not being bitter or sour grapes. I dont find it ridiculous that Nebraska should beware if she became interested again in Nebraska. The notion she would consider it was what I was speaking too. The ship has sailed. Ridiculous was obviously not the best choice of words. Totally unrealistic scenario would have been appropriate. You were "defending the comments?" Maybe you should explain that better, too. Or, let's just drop it.
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Jun 20, 2015 9:01:31 GMT -5
BTW, I just found out from the SPVB page Molly was named MVP.
Also on their website she is now listed under the uncommitted list.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jun 20, 2015 9:24:47 GMT -5
I should have stated this better First and foremost I was defending the comments as not being bitter or sour grapes. I dont find it ridiculous that Nebraska should beware if she became interested again in Nebraska. The notion she would consider it was what I was speaking too. The ship has sailed. Ridiculous was obviously not the best choice of words. Totally unrealistic scenario would have been appropriate. You were "defending the comments?" Maybe you should explain that better, too. Or, let's just drop it. Someone suggested Holiday's post was motivated by him being bitter, which I don't believe to be true.
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 20, 2015 9:53:45 GMT -5
You were "defending the comments?" Maybe you should explain that better, too. Or, let's just drop it. Someone suggested Holiday's post was motivated by him being bitter, which I don't believe to be true. Right. That "someone" was me. And you "defended his comments" by suggesting they were ridiculous, not bitter. It's not a big deal, just be straight-forward (I know you think you always are....).
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jun 20, 2015 9:58:43 GMT -5
Someone suggested Holiday's post was motivated by him being bitter, which I don't believe to be true. Right. That "someone" was me. And you "defended his comments" by suggesting they were ridiculous, not bitter. It's not a big deal, just be straight-forward (I know you think you always are....). I try to be.
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