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Post by gnu2vball on Jul 22, 2015 16:29:04 GMT -5
The last time a team won with a sub-6-foot outside player was 2011?
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Post by kc8413 on Jul 22, 2015 17:12:57 GMT -5
I think when the women's Cuban team was at its prime winning multiple gold medals at the Olympics, their OH was Ruiz who was 5'7".
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Post by ACE on Jul 22, 2015 20:31:51 GMT -5
I think when the women's Cuban team was at its prime winning multiple gold medals at the Olympics, their OH was Ruiz who was 5'7". Yeah, but she could touch like 11'2 or something.
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Post by vbnerd on Jul 22, 2015 20:39:33 GMT -5
The last time a team won with a sub-6-foot outside player was 2011? I think we determined that the last National Champion with a pin listed at 5'11" or smaller was 1999, Penn State's OH who played opposite Lauren Cacciamani, and then the Long Beach RS the year before.
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Post by BeiBei on Jul 22, 2015 21:33:20 GMT -5
The last time a team won with a sub-6-foot outside player was 2011? I think we determined that the last National Champion with a pin listed at 5'11" or smaller was 1999, Penn State's OH who played opposite Lauren Cacciamani, and then the Long Beach RS the year before. Lauren is a middle and Levy was the other middle who moved to outside after that season. Amanda Rome is the 5-10/11 outside you are referring to. She played opposite Carrie S (cant spell her last name)
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Post by gnu2vball on Jul 22, 2015 22:02:33 GMT -5
The last time a team won with a sub-6-foot outside player was 2011? I think we determined that the last National Champion with a pin listed at 5'11" or smaller was 1999, Penn State's OH who played opposite Lauren Cacciamani, and then the Long Beach RS the year before. My mistake. I thought Kelly Reeves was listed at 5'11." There were two 5'11" OHs on the roster, but I don't think they played very much.
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Post by vbnerd on Jul 22, 2015 22:34:15 GMT -5
I think we determined that the last National Champion with a pin listed at 5'11" or smaller was 1999, Penn State's OH who played opposite Lauren Cacciamani, and then the Long Beach RS the year before. Lauren is a middle and Levy was the other middle who moved to outside after that season. Amanda Rome is the 5-10/11 outside you are referring to. She played opposite Carrie S (cant spell her last name) Sorry... so on the roster with Cacciamani's title team.
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Post by psumaui on Jul 23, 2015 7:30:17 GMT -5
If it's true that no team has won the NC with under 6' outsides since 1999, then I don't think it will happen any time soon, if ever again under the current system. The game has changed quite a bit since 1999 and big hitters are what it takes to win championships now. Seeing as only 10 teams have won a NC since NCAA started back in 1981, I don't see any of the teams that have won the NC since the rally point scoring to 25 began in 2008, moving to smaller outsides. That being said, there are always those Cinderella teams that could pull off the improbable given the right circumstances.
Since 2008, only three different teams have won the NC. Penn State(5), UCLA(1),Texas(1). All three had 6' and over outsides. The runner ups(2nd place) teams don't count since they didn't win. Almost doesn't count unless you are tossing horseshoes or hand grenades of which I have done both.
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jul 23, 2015 7:32:47 GMT -5
If it's true that no team has won the NC with under 6' outsides since 1999, then I don't think it will happen any time soon, if ever again under the current system. The game has changed quite a bit since 1999 and big hitters are what it takes to win championships now. Seeing as only 10 teams have won a NC since NCAA started back in 1981, I don't see any of the teams that have won the NC since the rally point scoring to 25 began in 2008, moving to smaller outsides. That being said, there are always those Cinderella teams that could pull off the improbable given the right circumstances. Since 2008, only three different teams have won the NC. Penn State(5), UCLA(1),Texas(1). All three had 6' and over outsides. The runner ups(2nd place) teams don't count since they didn't win. Almost doesn't count unless you are tossing horseshoes or hand grenades of which I have done both. Although it is interesting that the past 3 years, there has been a sub 6' OH on the runner-up team
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Post by onfiya on Jul 23, 2015 9:42:02 GMT -5
5'10" to 6'1"...It's all the same. The point is that the schools that are winning NCs are teams that don't recruit or play shorter pins, not that they aren't capable of producing. The top programs can pick from the elite recruits who are judged to be so, many times because of their height. An effective 5'11" OH in a power 5 conference would be just as effective if she happened to be starting for Penn State last year, and they still would have won the NC. This is a silly debate.
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