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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 21:12:53 GMT -5
Adversity also has their own facility. The benefit of attending a club with its own facility is unlimited access year round to lift or practice. All the clubs are USAV for high school ages. The majority of these clubs all play in the same tournaments and Bid events: IL Bid event, MO Bid event, Palos tournaments, Great Lakes Center Tournaments, NVC/Lewis Tournaments, Adversity Tournaments, SYNC Tournaments, etc. Most clubs only practice 2x per week for the majority of the season for 2 to 2.5 hours, except Sports Performance practices 3-4x per week for 2.5 to 3 hours; Hitmen practices 2-3x per week for 2.5 to 3 hours. Some clubs offer strength and conditioning programs. The larger clubs may not have staffing problems as it is easier to cover for illnesses or conflicts. You are correct that cost is not the only factor when choosing where to play. How do those athletes contribute to their high school teams? How does the club finish at National events? Where and how many athletes play collegiate volleyball (a good sign of the quality of training)? How successful are those alumni at the next level? What experience am I looking for (recreational-player to elite-player)? I always like the friends argument on where to play. Or when a group of families get together to decide where the group is going. It really happens. This makes no sense to me. I would think like life (schools, college, workplace), kids can make friends where ever they go. I would do what is best for my son/daughter not some other kid. Hitmen also just recently acquired a facility of their own. They don't own their own facility. It is a baseball, softball, basketball facility.
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Post by sgelite23 on Aug 26, 2015 22:37:38 GMT -5
Spectrum: 3800$ VCVC: 4000$ Bones: 3700$ SG Elite: 3100$
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Post by ahurlburt on Aug 27, 2015 7:43:09 GMT -5
Hitmen also just recently acquired a facility of their own. They don't own their own facility. It is a baseball, softball, basketball facility. For the record, Hitmen will have exclusive usage of the volleyball courts and will be putting in $100,000+ in renovations to the building. Technically, not 'owning' the facility, but most of the same perks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 8:23:05 GMT -5
They don't own their own facility. It is a baseball, softball, basketball facility. For the record, Hitmen will have exclusive usage of the volleyball courts and will be putting in $100,000+ in renovations to the building. Technically, not 'owning' the facility, but most of the same perks. Let me get this straight. You are renting from the facility. This would be the same thing as training at a park district, junior high, high school, or local college. You share the courts with the several club basketball teams at that facility. ICE volleyball club played in that facility. You agreed to help pay $100,000+ in renovations in a building you don't own. Who is going to pay those costs? The families of your Hitmen club. Wow. What are these perks?
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Post by cadf on Aug 27, 2015 11:05:09 GMT -5
For the record, Hitmen will have exclusive usage of the volleyball courts and will be putting in $100,000+ in renovations to the building. Technically, not 'owning' the facility, but most of the same perks. Let me get this straight. You are renting from the facility. This would be the same thing as training at a park district, junior high, high school, or local college. You share the courts with the several club basketball teams at that facility. ICE volleyball club played in that facility. You agreed to help pay $100,000+ in renovations in a building you don't own. Who is going to pay those costs? The families of your Hitmen club. Wow. What are these perks? This is not rocket science, nor something that is revolutionary. The landlord allows the tenet to make improvements to the property that the landlord approves. The improvements to the property allow the tenet to have privileged access to certain amenities within the building and in the case of athletic facilities often a discounted rental rate and priority booking.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 11:31:34 GMT -5
Let me get this straight. You are renting from the facility. This would be the same thing as training at a park district, junior high, high school, or local college. You share the courts with the several club basketball teams at that facility. ICE volleyball club played in that facility. You agreed to help pay $100,000+ in renovations in a building you don't own. Who is going to pay those costs? The families of your Hitmen club. Wow. What are these perks? This is not rocket science, nor something that is revolutionary. The landlord allows the tenet to make improvements to the property that the landlord approves. The improvements to the property allow the tenet to have privileged access to certain amenities within the building and in the case of athletic facilities often a discounted rental rate and priority booking.
That was my point. I was restating it.
But where is this $100,000+ coming from? Parents directly or indirectly. On a facility you are renting from. I hope a lawyer looked at that lease.
And for what? What cost $100,000+ in volleyball? New poles, new nets, new ref stands, new volleyballs, new ball carts, new flooring (maybe). How many courts are we talking about?
The problem is people are misleading and throw around numbers.
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Post by dividedwefall on Aug 27, 2015 12:13:27 GMT -5
How much does it cost in your region to play boys club volleyball?
Here are the membership dues for some of the clubs in the Great Lakes Region. These dues are from last year or this upcoming year. They do not include travel or uniform costs as there is great fluctuation in those prices.
This information was compiled by locating information on club websites, tryout flyers, and/or contacting the club directors directly.
Ultimate: $1,000,000 (no information available. Club directors don’t return calls or respond to emails. Hands down winner of the #1 provider of customer service in Chicago Area. Why the mystery?)
Adversity: $2,500
D1 North: $2,300
D1 South: $2,050
Hitmen: $1,800 ($1600, includes $200 required fundraising or you pay that $200 goes to scholarship fund for players. Potential NCAA violation???)
Naperville: $1,799 (17s/18s), $1,599 (16s/15s)
Sports Performance: $1,795 (17s/18s), $1,695 (16s), $1,500 (15s)
Pipeline: $1,699
Club 1: $1,655
Cyclones: $1,450
Chicago Elite Volleyball Club: $1,295 (Oct–Feb Only)
it's what they do. anything to make themselves look better, no matter how true, false, or dodging it may be. if there's a question they can't answer without looking good, they just won't answer it. if there's a way to bend the truth to make them look good, they'll do it. heck, when their 16s lost in the national championship (a great feat, not diminishing that) in 2010 to lightning (another midwest club), they put up on their website prior to the 2010-2011 tryouts that their 1s teams finished "higher than any other midwest clubs at nationals in ages X, Y, and Z," and in that they included their 16s team. when they were called out for it on the forum, their response wasn't, "sorry, we made a mistake." it was, "we didn't realize we were competing with the milwaukee market for players." condescendingly saying, "how dare you call us out on our lies?" they then changed their website to, "highest finishes in the great lakes region..." hey, at least it was no longer a lie.
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Post by Lineshot24 on Aug 30, 2015 21:42:48 GMT -5
Vortex is that expensive because Their director says so. They practice at a church with small courts and nets. Crazy that is the pricing. At the end of the day though its insane how expensive volleyball is. I don't want to know how much LIVBC parents spend. Pretty sure they attended Cali chicago St. Louis and SoCal. Gotta be close to 5000 in Travel right there. Some of those numbers seem off. Those are the base fees but after uniforms away tournies travel food etc. parents are spending close to 5000. I know girls clubs that spend 8-10,000 a year.
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Post by ahurlburt on Sept 1, 2015 12:04:26 GMT -5
Truth,
I don't understand why you feel the need to be so rude... (?)
If you are actually looking for information, I am happy to give it. However, I am not interested in being insulted by someone who has some vendetta against someone whom they do not even know.
The court space is going to be exclusively Hitmen's to use. ICE Volleyball Club and Basketball/other sports run by the DuPage Training Academy will not have access to it at any time. Furthermore, the renovations being put into place are being afforded by a private investor, and are all completely transportable - therefore not being used to advance a facility which they do not own. Also, the contract was, indeed, looked over by multiple lawyers.
I apologize if I offended you in some way, Truth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 13:54:53 GMT -5
Truth, I don't understand why you feel the need to be so rude... (?) If you are actually looking for information, I am happy to give it. However, I am not interested in being insulted by someone who has some vendetta against someone whom they do not even know. The court space is going to be exclusively Hitmen's to use. ICE Volleyball Club and Basketball/other sports run by the DuPage Training Academy will not have access to it at any time. Furthermore, the renovations being put into place are being afforded by a private investor, and are all completely transportable - therefore not being used to advance a facility which they do not own. Also, the contract was, indeed, looked over by multiple lawyers. I apologize if I offended you in some way, Truth. Not being rude. You are just being open-ended with your statements. If these are great additions you should advertise it in a more detailed manner. Otherwise, we just draw our own conclusions.
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Post by 10Footbounce on Sept 20, 2015 7:53:10 GMT -5
How much does it cost in your region to play boys club volleyball?
Here are the membership dues for some of the clubs in the Great Lakes Region. These dues are from last year or this upcoming year. They do not include travel or uniform costs as there is great fluctuation in those prices.
This information was compiled by locating information on club websites, tryout flyers, and/or contacting the club directors directly.
Ultimate: $1,000,000 (no information available. Club directors don’t return calls or respond to emails. Hands down winner of the #1 provider of customer service in Chicago Area. Why the mystery?)
Adversity: $2,500
D1 North: $2,300
D1 South: $2,050
Hitmen: $1,800 ($1600, includes $200 required fundraising or you pay that $200 goes to scholarship fund for players. Potential NCAA violation???)
Naperville: $1,799 (17s/18s), $1,599 (16s/15s)
Sports Performance: $1,795 (17s/18s), $1,695 (16s), $1,500 (15s)
Pipeline: $1,699
Club 1: $1,655
Cyclones: $1,450
Chicago Elite Volleyball Club: $1,295 (Oct–Feb Only)
Ultimate wasn't a million dollars, I played there for 3 years. It's about $2000
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 8:37:00 GMT -5
How much does it cost in your region to play boys club volleyball?
Here are the membership dues for some of the clubs in the Great Lakes Region. These dues are from last year or this upcoming year. They do not include travel or uniform costs as there is great fluctuation in those prices.
This information was compiled by locating information on club websites, tryout flyers, and/or contacting the club directors directly.
Ultimate: $1,000,000 (no information available. Club directors don’t return calls or respond to emails. Hands down winner of the #1 provider of customer service in Chicago Area. Why the mystery?)
Adversity: $2,500
D1 North: $2,300
D1 South: $2,050
Hitmen: $1,800 ($1600, includes $200 required fundraising or you pay that $200 goes to scholarship fund for players. Potential NCAA violation???)
Naperville: $1,799 (17s/18s), $1,599 (16s/15s)
Sports Performance: $1,795 (17s/18s), $1,695 (16s), $1,500 (15s)
Pipeline: $1,699
Club 1: $1,655
Cyclones: $1,450
Chicago Elite Volleyball Club: $1,295 (Oct–Feb Only)
Ultimate wasn't a million dollars, I played there for 3 years. It's about $2000 Actually it is $3500 according to your new boss Joey.
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Post by 10Footbounce on Sept 20, 2015 11:09:05 GMT -5
Ultimate wasn't a million dollars, I played there for 3 years. It's about $2000 Actually it is $3500 according to your new boss Joey. I mean I left Ultimate this season, the club was going to %*$#
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