thawk
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Post by thawk on Dec 13, 2015 16:56:15 GMT -5
What if, in the interest of good sportsmanship and fair play, the Texas coach had approached the referees and said that the ball was in and that Florida should be awarded the point. If the referees and linemen had already discussed the issue and made their decision, is the head referee allowed to reverse the call at that point?
Has any D1 coach ever made such a gesture of good sportsmanship?
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Post by silversurfer on Dec 13, 2015 16:57:30 GMT -5
I hope this isn't another way for people to rag on Jerritt for no reason whatsoever, like last night's nonsense...
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Post by Orpheus on Dec 13, 2015 17:00:02 GMT -5
Or what if after the match Mary Wise told Jerritt during their handshake "the ball was in" and started a shoving/yelling match?
Has there ever been an example of such poor sportsmanship?
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thawk
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Post by thawk on Dec 13, 2015 17:05:42 GMT -5
It is not my intent to rag on any coach. I only used the Texas/Florida match as an example since it is a recent example. I am curious if a coach who benefits from a bad call mentions it to the referee is the referee allowed to reverse a call? I am also curious if any coaches have ever done such a thing. I don't follow volleyball as seriously as most posters on this board. Hence my questions.
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Post by kokyu on Dec 13, 2015 17:10:22 GMT -5
I saw a coach do that this year and I can't remember the specific match but pretty sure it was the men's Modena team in Italy.
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Post by akbar on Dec 13, 2015 17:14:19 GMT -5
It's all situational and dependent on the individual.
I would never encourage nor condemn either instance from my opponent as a player nor a coach.
In this instance you have paid and highly trained individual there to do that job for you.
Not a big fan of honor calls in big matches.
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Dec 13, 2015 17:18:32 GMT -5
Or what if after the match Mary Wise told Jerritt during their handshake "the ball was in" and started a shoving/yelling match? Has there ever been an example of such poor sportsmanship? LOL LOL i mean ... LOL |
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Post by sizzlincatfish on Dec 13, 2015 17:21:55 GMT -5
Mike Fried. That is all.
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Post by liquid running on Dec 13, 2015 17:23:38 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned, in officiated matches it's on the officials — not the players — to make the call. Besides, it can be very difficult for a player, in the run of play, to correctly see a ball in or out. I can't remember how many times in pickup games I've called a ball in or out, only to have everyone one my team disagree. Same thing with calls made by teammates.
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Post by kokyu on Dec 13, 2015 17:27:16 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned, in officiated matches it's on the officials — not the players — to make the call. Besides, it can be very difficult for a player, in the run of play, to correctly see a ball in or out. I can't remember how many times in pickup games I've called a ball in or out, only to have everyone one my team disagree. Same thing with calls made by teammates. Uhh did you even see the replay? |
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Post by liquid running on Dec 13, 2015 17:31:34 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned, in officiated matches it's on the officials — not the players — to make the call. Besides, it can be very difficult for a player, in the run of play, to correctly see a ball in or out. I can't remember how many times in pickup games I've called a ball in or out, only to have everyone one my team disagree. Same thing with calls made by teammates. Uhh did you even see the replay? Of course I saw it. And of course it was obviously in. Still, I don't believe it's up to a player on the team that benefitted from the call to tell the officials the call was wrong. |
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Dec 13, 2015 17:32:58 GMT -5
don't we always say these bad calls are part of the game?
i would not expect, nor would i want elliot (or the players) to say something to overturn the call. and that's not a judgment on him or the players at all! but rather, this is part of the game. like it or not, these things will happen. instead, it's incumbent on the players and coaches to recover quickly from a bad call and move on. if you don't, then you've lost.
while florida did eventually recover to pull even in the 5th set ... if you look at what happened immediately after snyder's in-shot was called out ... florida lost the point right after that (i believe a shank pass on serve receive on the very next point). so florida didn't immediately recover from the shock of the bad call. (and if they had and bounced back to win the very next point, maybe the outcome is different, and it's a slightly different debate we're having here today.)
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Post by kokyu on Dec 13, 2015 17:37:25 GMT -5
Uhh did you even see the replay? Of course I saw it. And of course it was obviously in. Still, I don't believe it's up to a player on the team that benefitted from the call to tell the officials the call was wrong. I'm all for water under the bridge when the ball lands on the line called out or invisible to naked eye micro touch on net/blocks, but a ball in by almost two feet is no different than a ball landing middle of the court. |
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Post by sizzlincatfish on Dec 13, 2015 17:38:33 GMT -5
Of course I saw it. And of course it was obviously in. Still, I don't believe it's up to a player on the team that benefitted from the call to tell the officials the call was wrong. I'm all for water under the bridge when the ball lands on the line called out or invisible to naked eye micro touch on net/blocks, but a ball in by almost two feet is no different than a ball landing middle of the court. Except for that whole two feet part. |
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Dec 13, 2015 17:38:40 GMT -5
and if this had happened to my team ... i would be BIK'd ... and hawaii fans would set this board on fire!
still though ... them's the breaks ...
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