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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 11, 2004 21:05:08 GMT -5
Too many permutations for me to answer off-the-cuff. But why wouldn't they play at their own regionals? If you want to give me an alternate scenario, I'll take a stab at it. It's an "Unfair" advantage for these teams. The NCAA moved to pre-determined NCAA Regional sites in an effort to promote the sport nationally and hopefully raise attendance numbers, right? Well, they are going to be STUCK sticking teams in that Regional if they are even CLOSE to being qualified for it, rather than how they have in the past awarding those with great season records with the home-court advantage, this way, the sport is far less in the hands of the actual teams but more at the mercy of those organizing the events and getting butts in seats. I can see where this year's Final Four will be wacky and unpredictable simply because of the new Regional format. I'm not sure that it's fair for those teams who traditionally have excellent seasons as opposed to those who just are lucky at tournament time, and happened to get a bid in for a Regional.
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Post by SaltNPepper on Oct 11, 2004 21:11:52 GMT -5
What if Washington and Minnesota don't host? Then kiss off the host teams selling any reasonable quantity of tickets and we'll have regionals with less than a 1000 people attending. And kiss off the teams that can bring in large crowds from bidding in the futher. A home match for Washington & Minnesota (and Louisville if they were to make the sweet 16) is a given.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2004 21:21:56 GMT -5
Hmmm. Seems odd to bring this up NOW. Where were you last year?
By the way, the Committee can and should handicap any Regional host which is not a #1 seed.
The Regionals are not nearly the problem that the "geographical" 1st/2nd round matchups are.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 11, 2004 21:26:32 GMT -5
Hmmm. Seems odd to bring this up NOW. Where were you last year? By the way, the Committee can and should handicap any Regional host which is not a #1 seed. The Regionals are not nearly the problem that the "geographical" 1st/2nd round matchups are. I was around, I really wasn't too fond of the idea then, but was more focused on the "We're #2!" battle with Gator. The Geographical 1st/2nd rounds shouldn't be a huge issue, in my opinion. Example: They could easily have Hawaii first 1st/2nd rounds then fly them to Louisville if that's how the seedings worked. We all know there will be more west-coast teams in the tourney than east coast anyway! The interesting bit would be seeing someone like Louisville fly through Hawaii en-route to attempting to host their regional.
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Post by beachman on Oct 11, 2004 21:27:28 GMT -5
I think it's too early to pick a FF...too many upsets so far, and too many highly ranked teams that really haven't been tested yet. Here are my top 6, with several more who are questionable: Washington Minnesota Ohio State Hawaii USC Nebraska Still undecided: Colorado State, Texas, Florida
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Post by SaltNPepper on Oct 11, 2004 21:28:03 GMT -5
By the way, the Committee can and should handicap any Regional host which is not a #1 seed. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this statement. Should they us a "handicap" to help them or hurt them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2004 21:36:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this statement. Should they us a "handicap" to help them or hurt them. Like they did with Long Beach last year, even though they were in their own region. Louisville will get the same treatment, I'd bet. No chance of getting the 1st/2nd rounds. (I'm not sure how Wisconsin-Green Bay is playing, but they are obviously not going to be hosting anything.) But a better example would be Minnesota. Let's say the Gophers are a #2 or #3 seed. They could handicap them by taking away their 1st/2nd rounds at home and then sending the OVERALL #1 seed to their region. To get back to IB's response to the geographical problem. They need to do a better of job of sending selected West Coast teams (outside of top 16 seeds) out East. I, for one, am tired of PSU getting a free pass to the round of 16. (Even that is not always a guarantee, as Temple can attest.)
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 11, 2004 21:48:14 GMT -5
To get back to IB's response to the geographical problem. They need to do a better of job of sending selected West Coast teams (outside of top 16 seeds) out East. I, for one, am tired of PSU getting a free pass to the round of 16. (Even that is not always a guarantee, as Temple can attest.) I absolutely 100% agree!!
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Post by SaltNPepper on Oct 11, 2004 21:49:41 GMT -5
But a better example would be Minnesota. Let's say the Gophers are a #2 or #3 seed. They could handicap them by taking away their 1st/2nd rounds at home and then sending the OVERALL #1 seed to their region. OK, I understand and that seems reasonable especially in Minnesota's case where it could also be a problem with enough school within 400 miles. Remember last year, they sent Nebraska back to Michigan (I think) for the sub regional. I just don't think the committee should mess with the top 8 overall seeds (by their calculations). If Minnesota is a #2 (by being 5th overall) then they need to bring in the 4th best 1 seeded team. I don't think they should try to penalize someone in that case by bring in the best #1 (1st overall), because you'd be penalizing that team too.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 11, 2004 22:32:09 GMT -5
I'm not sold on this version of the women of Troy. I said before the season began that the loss Of Ross, Anderson, Davis, and Olsovsky would be huge for USC. USC seems to struggle with setting and passing issues. There is a lot of talent on this USC team but they look nowhere near as good as they've had the past couple of years.
It's too early to make final four guesses.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2004 23:04:01 GMT -5
[quote author= BiK link=board=general&thread=1097539123&start=24#1 date=1097551929] It's too early to make Final Four guesses. [/quote] It is never too early or late to make guesses on anything that hasn't happened. Of course, it is too early to make educated guesses on the final four. Maybe, at this stage, we should call them "hunches." Overall, I believe there is a rare accord, in which I join, between IB, (R)uffda and SaltNPepper about the regionals format. Since it seems so reasonable, is it safe to assume the NCAA will go in different directions (pun intended)?
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