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Post by akbar on May 4, 2016 12:26:45 GMT -5
#1 higher seeds HOST the play in match on Tues.
-only 2 teams,parents,staff have to travel
-guranteed a nice set of fans.
#2 make sure host Finals site is STILL in session and NOT on a graduation weekend.
#3 tie in a spring convention for coaches to attend and key note speakers/seminars.
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PSU has been as good a host site as most any in the past 30 years and 3 to 4 times its hosted. The numbers in attendance prove it. Those years ranged from 2011 almost 4000 (OSU/UCSB) most recently to 5000+ in 1982 when the track was 3 deep of standing room only for the finals.
People are ignorant to think PSU isnt a GREAT site for a Final 4. It is one of the more successful.
Don't fool yourself into thinking that So Cal sites automatically mean 2-4000 people let alone 1,000 spectators.
Any other constructive suggestions are welcome.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 13:12:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 13:14:52 GMT -5
There would have been an AVCA Spring Conference, which the AVCA has done for the last ten years I believe, but it was announced on The Net Live a few months ago that it was not cost effective. The Spring Conference is usually at the Men's Championship site. Back in 2011 when PSU last hosted the Tournament, the Conference was actually located in Anaheim the weekend after the Final. I think PSU missing the Tourney will be the top reason if attendance is down this year.
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Post by roy on May 4, 2016 15:04:01 GMT -5
I know not realistic for every year based on the site, but I would love to see a combined event with the women's beach volleyball. I think there are a lot of opportunities to cross promote both sports since they are both in the spring.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 15:17:11 GMT -5
I know not realistic for every year based on the site, but I would love to see a combined event with the women's beach volleyball. I think there are a lot of opportunities to cross promote both sports since they are both in the spring. So now we look for men's schools near a beach. That makes a lot of sense.
Women's Beach does not need any association with the men's game to be a success.
Imagine me dropping my mic.
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Post by 4vball4 on May 4, 2016 15:35:55 GMT -5
I know not realistic for every year based on the site, but I would love to see a combined event with the women's beach volleyball. I think there are a lot of opportunities to cross promote both sports since they are both in the spring. So now we look for men's schools near a beach. That makes a lot of sense.
Women's Beach does not need any association with the men's game to be a success.
Imagine me dropping my mic.
I think you are confused if you think that beach volleyball happens near a beach as illogical as that might seem. If you look through the schools that have beach (more appropriately SAND) volleyball it includes schools in Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Florida, Nebraska, California, Hawaii, Washington, Louisiana, Idaho. The sport is growing so the suggestion that coordination occur to bring the events together isn't a bad one. If you've ever been to the NCVF (college club) championships you would see the obvious attendance benefit to bringing college men and women together. Having a "local" team represented surely helps as seen at Loyola and even at Missouri Baptist (NAIA) where the host team participated. Another is a captive audience as when the world league plays during the USAV Boys Nationals. Connecting to other related events would take advantage of volleyball interested parties gathered in one location.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 15:39:47 GMT -5
So now we look for men's schools near a beach. That makes a lot of sense.
Women's Beach does not need any association with the men's game to be a success.
Imagine me dropping my mic.
I think you are confused if you think that beach volleyball happens near a beach as illogical as that might seem. If you look through the schools that have beach (more appropriately SAND) volleyball it includes schools in Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Florida, Nebraska, California, Hawaii, Washington, Louisiana, Idaho. The sport is growing so the suggestion that coordination occur to bring the events together isn't a bad one. If you've ever been to the NCVF (college club) championships you would see the obvious attendance benefit to bringing college men and women together. Having a "local" team represented surely helps as seen at Loyola and even at Missouri Baptist (NAIA) where the host team participated. Another is a captive audience as when the world league plays during the USAV Boys Nationals. Connecting to other related events would take advantage of volleyball interested parties gathered in one location.
Where have they held the NCAA Women's Sand/Beach Championships? Does any other NCAA sport combine events?
I had to find the mic and now I drop it again.
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Post by halesvb11 on May 4, 2016 16:03:51 GMT -5
Kansas City. Everyone travels. Everyone complains.
Maybe Texas. Everyone might have to travel farther.
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Post by VB48 on May 4, 2016 16:12:50 GMT -5
The play-in match should be at the higher seed the Saturday before instead of Tuesday. That would make for easier travel and better attendance.
Check the calendar before setting the site and date.
Any site that relies entirely on the host team playing to guarantee attendance should not be considered for future hosting.
The AVCA Conference should be held in conjunction with the championship.
The Beach Volleyball Championship is in it's first year, and both this year and next is at UAB.
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Post by roy on May 4, 2016 16:51:19 GMT -5
Where have they held the NCAA Women's Sand/Beach Championships? Does any other NCAA sport combine events? I had to find the mic and now I drop it again. I do agree in the logistical problems, which is why I say it's not realistic based on each year. But the men's championship is at UCLA in 2018, so it would be feasible to have both events there at the same time. Technically, sports like men and women's tennis and cross country are separate NCAA sports, but they host their tournaments together. Beach volleyball and indoor men's volleyball are two different sports (not the same sport separated by gender), but I feel the similarities allow them to be paired together. They are both overseen by the same organization in the AVCA. I also realize this is more of a pipe dream, but it is fun to throw the idea out there. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 17:44:07 GMT -5
Where have they held the NCAA Women's Sand/Beach Championships? Does any other NCAA sport combine events? I had to find the mic and now I drop it again. I do agree in the logistical problems, which is why I say it's not realistic based on each year. But the men's championship is at UCLA in 2018, so it would be feasible to have both events there at the same time. Technically, sports like men and women's tennis and cross country are separate NCAA sports, but they host their tournaments together. Beach volleyball and indoor men's volleyball are two different sports (not the same sport separated by gender), but I feel the similarities allow them to be paired together. They are both overseen by the same organization in the AVCA. How many sand courts at UCLA? How many do they use for Sand Championships? Technically this won't happen. I will throw in a crazy idea for giggles...Why not move the Men's season to the Fall? Don't all other gender sports compete at the same time? Nothing will change... |
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on May 4, 2016 19:53:09 GMT -5
The idea of having the women's sand tournament and men's volleyball tournament at the same time is not crazy at all. It is a decent idea, especially for a sport that needs growth and unique ideas like mens volleyball. They don't have to be at the same school either. In 2018 when mens tourney is at UCLA, it doesn't mean that the women's beach tourney has to be at UCLA, but anywhere in the SoCal area.
Personally, I think it is more important for the tournament to be hosted in an area that heavily supports boys club volleyball. College students aren't gunna show up if the host team isn't playing, the attendance comes from high school players and parents. BYU is the exception, they are always a good host option.
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Post by vinnielopes on May 4, 2016 22:42:03 GMT -5
NCAA Tournament needs to be played in Nashville every year. Why? Because I live in Nashville. Simple solution. Problem solved. You can just lock this thread mod.
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Post by timduckforlife on May 5, 2016 4:02:05 GMT -5
#1 higher seeds HOST the play in match on Tues. -only 2 teams,parents,staff have to travel -guranteed a nice set of fans. #2 make sure host Finals site is STILL in session and NOT on a graduation weekend. #3 tie in a spring convention for coaches to attend and key note speakers/seminars. ...... PSU has been as good a host site as most any in the past 30 years and 3 to 4 times its hosted. The numbers in attendance prove it. Those years ranged from 2011 almost 4000 (OSU/UCSB) most recently to 5000+ in 1982 when the track was 3 deep of standing room only for the finals. People are ignorant to think PSU isnt a GREAT site for a Final 4. It is one of the more successful. Don't fool yourself into thinking that So Cal sites automatically mean 2-4000 people let alone 1,000 spectators. Any other constructive suggestions are welcome. My only point of contention is about the finals week thing. Why? Because it basically excludes teams that start earlier in the year than other schools. Thus schools are hurt and cant host do to some arbitrary rule about when the school year starts and as thus have no say in the hosting matter. |
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Post by ciscokeed on May 5, 2016 8:30:19 GMT -5
Do you think the rabid fans of Nebraska would come out in force to watch the men play? They sell out Husker matches consistently
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