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Post by Mocha on Sept 13, 2016 14:49:51 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 13, 2016 15:33:41 GMT -5
We are told many times that all it takes to play soccer is a field and a ball. How hard is it to relocate a ball to another field? |
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Post by Millennium on Sept 13, 2016 15:43:11 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 13, 2016 15:50:34 GMT -5
Yeah, the current government of North Carolina isn't going to budge. The bill was mostly driven by legislators representing rural/suburban districts, and the loss of business, tourism, and conventions mainly hits the cities, at least directly. So while they feel the shame of being publicly chastised, they don't feel the direct economic pain. More importantly that any regulations about bathrooms, the main purpose of the bill was to roll back and prevent local jurisdictions (aka cities) from passing their own LBGT anti-discrimination laws. So really it's a city v. rural/suburban internal fight in North Carolina. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 13, 2016 15:53:34 GMT -5
The question is, what will sports look like in 20-30 years? What happens when transgender students want to play on teams of the opposite sex? Whether in college sports, the pros, or the Olympics? Should make for an interesting discussion, to say the least. This is not a new question. It's been an open question for decades, generally with more people upset about the possibilities than any actual instances where it mattered in any way. If you think it isn't going to arise for 20-30 years, should I assume you haven't been paying attention? One of the few cases where it actually has been a hot topic at the highest levels of a sport: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya (It's amusing, in a way, that one of her biggest detractors was the Russian who beat her for gold in 2012, who later came under suspicion of doping.) |
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Post by Millennium on Sept 13, 2016 20:56:00 GMT -5
The question is, what will sports look like in 20-30 years? What happens when transgender students want to play on teams of the opposite sex? Whether in college sports, the pros, or the Olympics? Should make for an interesting discussion, to say the least. This is not a new question. It's been an open question for decades, generally with more people upset about the possibilities than any actual instances where it mattered in any way. If you think it isn't going to arise for 20-30 years, should I assume you haven't been paying attention? One of the few cases where it actually has been a hot topic at the highest levels of a sport: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya (It's amusing, in a way, that one of her biggest detractors was the Russian who beat her for gold in 2012, who later came under suspicion of doping.) I figured it would take at least another generation before becoming mainstream news. I really haven't heard anything on mainstream sites, with the exception of the South African you mentioned, which seemed to quickly disappear. I was more concerned with team sports, but I think Track and Field sports will be hit hard. I cannot wait to hear some serious debate about this issue. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 13, 2016 22:58:58 GMT -5
Personally, I think the reason you haven't heard about any other cases is because this is no big deal. The very tiny percentage of people who want to (and can) become elite athletes and the even smaller percentage of people who happen to be somewhat intersex in this particular way almost never overlap. And I see no reason to expect that to change.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 14, 2016 21:11:46 GMT -5
Latest news is that the ACC will move all neutral-site events (tournaments, championship games, etc.) out of North Carolina.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 23:33:06 GMT -5
Latest news is that the ACC will move all neutral-site events (tournaments, championship games, etc.) out of North Carolina. I heard the same regarding the NCAA, with the exception of a team that has won a home-site advantage. I wonder if the ACC would force, say, UNC basketball to not host a postseason event. Seems as if they wouldn't voluntarily give that away unless they had to. |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 14, 2016 23:43:27 GMT -5
Latest news is that the ACC will move all neutral-site events (tournaments, championship games, etc.) out of North Carolina. I heard the same regarding the NCAA, with the exception of a team that has won a home-site advantage. I wonder if the ACC would force, say, UNC basketball to not host a postseason event. Seems as if they wouldn't voluntarily give that away unless they had to. The NCAA has pulled men's basketball subregionals from North Carolina. Duke or North Carolina wins the ACC? Too bad, because you're going to Orlando or Kansas City for the first round. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 15, 2016 0:59:56 GMT -5
Latest news is that the ACC will move all neutral-site events (tournaments, championship games, etc.) out of North Carolina. I heard the same regarding the NCAA, with the exception of a team that has won a home-site advantage. I wonder if the ACC would force, say, UNC basketball to not host a postseason event. Seems as if they wouldn't voluntarily give that away unless they had to. In men's basketball, no one is allowed to play events that they host. However, sometimes high seeds end up playing very close to home. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 12:21:43 GMT -5
Thanks Geddy and Mike for the clarifications.
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Post by Mocha on Sept 16, 2016 15:51:26 GMT -5
I heard the same regarding the NCAA, with the exception of a team that has won a home-site advantage. I wonder if the ACC would force, say, UNC basketball to not host a postseason event. Seems as if they wouldn't voluntarily give that away unless they had to. The NCAA has pulled men's basketball subregionals from North Carolina. Duke or North Carolina wins the ACC? Too bad, because you're going to Orlando or Kansas City for the first round. The NCAA has said they will pick a replacement site on the Eastern Time Zone. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 16, 2016 21:49:54 GMT -5
The NCAA has pulled men's basketball subregionals from North Carolina. Duke or North Carolina wins the ACC? Too bad, because you're going to Orlando or Kansas City for the first round. The NCAA has said they will pick a replacement site on the Eastern Time Zone. Makes sense for their TV schedule. |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 16, 2016 21:55:53 GMT -5
The NCAA has pulled men's basketball subregionals from North Carolina. Duke or North Carolina wins the ACC? Too bad, because you're going to Orlando or Kansas City for the first round. The NCAA has said they will pick a replacement site on the Eastern Time Zone. I was just pulling names out of my hat. I'd imagine the NCAA will move to another spot in ACC territory - Maryland, D.C., Atlanta etc. |
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