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Post by guest2 on Sept 20, 2016 13:42:14 GMT -5
There is something to be said about a 43 year old guy who does not get served. Not sure what games you are watching but the man defies logic If I recall, it seemed like this year when I watched FIVB, John was getting the majority of the serves. However, the biggest knock against John was his setting, so there is more than 1 reason you don't get served. I'm all for improving your situation, but like I said before, I don't think there is a better current option right now. If he wants to block full time you may be right, although at this point I would assert a full time John Mayer would be better. (Don't know if that's an option) Does anyone think Tri as a blocker is a top 5 team, unless he were playing with Bruno? He needs to switch and putting it off seems like a poor idea. Maybe he is determined to stay at the net
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Post by JB Southpaw on Sept 20, 2016 14:16:45 GMT -5
If I recall, it seemed like this year when I watched FIVB, John was getting the majority of the serves. However, the biggest knock against John was his setting, so there is more than 1 reason you don't get served. I'm all for improving your situation, but like I said before, I don't think there is a better current option right now. If he wants to block full time you may be right, although at this point I would assert a full time John Mayer would be better. (Don't know if that's an option) Does anyone think Tri as a blocker is a top 5 team, unless he were playing with Bruno? He needs to switch and putting it off seems like a poor idea. Maybe he is determined to stay at the net I've kind of thought about Tri like a big man in basketball who can only depends on their athleticism for points. If you blow out a knee or lose some of that athleticism you have no real post game to score. Right now, Tri is a very good (not great) blocker based on his athleticism, if he loses that what does he have? I agree he should switch before he HAS to switch because he is ineffective. Same with Trevor Crabb btw.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 20, 2016 14:58:36 GMT -5
I think Tri and Trevor are very similar in terms of blocking but Tri as a very good blocker I disagree with. I think, off the top of my head, all of these players are better blockers:(not better players but just better at the act of blocking)
Allison Phil Christian Meuwson Pedro and Evandro Theo Ryan Jake Ranghieri Lupo (or is Nicolai the big one?)
There are a bunch of others as well, who I havent seen enough to say definitively (the big Russian) and players like the larger Spaniard and the Qatari, who are comparable (I think the Spanish guy is better but I am having trouble remembering much about him)
I think on the FIVB Tri is no better than an average blocker and among elite teams I dont really see anyone I see him as much better than
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Post by JB Southpaw on Sept 20, 2016 15:11:13 GMT -5
I think Tri and Trevor are very similar in terms of blocking but Tri as a very good blocker I disagree with. I think, off the top of my head, all of these players are better blockers:(not better players but just better at the act of blocking) Allison Phil Christian Meuwson Pedro and Evandro Theo Ryan Jake Ranghieri Lupo (or is Nicolai the big one?) There are a bunch of others as well, who I havent seen enough to say definitively (the big Russian) and players like the larger Spaniard and the Qatari, who are comparable (I think the Spanish guy is better but I am having trouble remembering much about him) I think on the FIVB Tri is no better than an average blocker and among elite teams I dont really see anyone I see him as much better than Sorry, "very good" isn't at the top of my list of tiers. Take the top 5 as Great, the next 5 as very good. Not sure I'd put Theo and Ryan in that group.
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Post by haze on Sept 20, 2016 15:39:22 GMT -5
Tri is a really good blocker at an international level. We don't even know if he can play defense at a higher caliber internationally than he can block.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 20, 2016 15:58:19 GMT -5
Tri is a really good blocker at an international level. We don't even know if he can play defense at a higher caliber internationally than he can block. I doubt he can, but defense at the international level is less important. If Tri can be adequate on defense his attacking and jump serving will make him a very valuable player in the backcourt, much like Casey who is not a good defender, or Evandro who is just awful. Internationally its much easier to win without a good defender than without a good blocker. Other than the Latvians, I think every big tournament this year was won by a team with a top blocker
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Post by bigfan on Sept 20, 2016 16:05:06 GMT -5
Any chance the Walsh/Ross hUsbands teaming up.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 21, 2016 2:07:19 GMT -5
Any chance the Walsh/Ross hUsbands teaming up. Zero to None. Both washed up! Playing AVP's for beer money? I could see it, even though Brad has a real job and Casey has...well, something, I guess.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 21, 2016 3:11:45 GMT -5
Zero to None. Both washed up! Playing AVP's for beer money? I could see it, even though Brad has a real job and Casey has...well, something, I guess. The fewer international events she plays the more being Mr. Walsh seems like a job. If Kerri can maintain her standard of play (doubtful) I think Walsh/Hughes would be better than Walsh/Ross within two years.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 21, 2016 7:05:54 GMT -5
I think a Summer Ross pairing with Kerri can be a really good thing for Summer too .Summer will be able to learn from the best and she will definetely elevate her game. Kerri certainly elevated Aprils game. April was good before teaming with Kerri, but now she is great!! There isn't really any evidence for that proposition, that playing with Kerri made April better. April was one of the best in the world for a long time pre-Kerri, taking the Silver Medal and beating all comers in multiple big tournaments, Stavanger x 2, Rome, Shanghai despite playing with a very weak partner, against a field that is much stronger than the field now. In 2008, April should have been the MVP for carrying Kessey to three wins and seven finals and two of those wins in top tournaments. In fact, in the most important tournament, playing with a much better partner, April had a much worse finish than previously, not necessarily in terms of silver vs bronze but in terms of who she lost to and how competitive they were.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Sept 21, 2016 7:23:03 GMT -5
I think Sarah can get everything she could playing with kerri from a top level coach.
I think Sarah, after next year should hold a tryout for her partnership like Misty did. There may be a player who isn't the best in their 1st year, but will be in Year 2,3,4 (Tokyo).
I thiink Sarah will sign a "major" sponsorship deal when she is done, and may influence someone who wasn't necessarily thinking about beach to come out.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 21, 2016 7:33:01 GMT -5
She couldnt get the entry points/seeding. Also right now, Kerri is the best US big, maybe not long term but for at least a year or so, unless April converts-and she won't, its Kerri.
If I were Sara I would think, Kerri is best for this year and by the end of the year I will be so good I can have my pick, so if I want Kelly back I can get her. (hard to hate on a partner when she dumps you for the GOAT)
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Post by JB Southpaw on Sept 21, 2016 8:07:18 GMT -5
She couldnt get the entry points/seeding. Also right now, Kerri is the best US big, maybe not long term but for at least a year or so, unless April converts-and she won't, its Kerri. If I were Sara I would think, Kerri is best for this year and by the end of the year I will be so good I can have my pick, so if I want Kelly back I can get her. (hard to hate on a partner when she dumps you for the GOAT) So what about points, Phil and Nick had to hit the Q. I believe tournament points are team points (this may be only during Olympic Q time), so whom ever she pairs with, they'll be low. I think it's a bad idea to hitch up to Kerri. IMO, Kerri is going to try and control the situation (she is the biggest dog, and has earned that right). Sarah needs her own plan.
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Post by downtheline on Sept 21, 2016 9:43:36 GMT -5
Right now I can see SH just buckling down in her business classes & focusing on a three peat. Usc looks to be poised for another strong run.
With some time left in the quad to make a run for 2020, she was said to be contemplating earning a masters degree with a stint as a graduate assistant coach. There were several offers to return for a fifth year indoors but that option has been removed for consideration.
The rumor mill may churn for some time but the likes of Summer, Emily & Alix & of course Kelly have already dropped their dime for a shot at playing with her in 2017.
Summer & Sara would make a good team. If Klineman worked hard she could be a good indoor transition back to the beach where she did well as a youth.
It's a ways off but I still see K. Plummer & SH getting together since they both came out of the same famous youth beach camp in HB. That would be post 2020 since the current qual system all but eliminated college athletes.
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Post by unrated on Sept 21, 2016 10:06:50 GMT -5
She has 3 choices... Winter, spring or fall. I'm here all week. Make sure to tip your waitress! Nice! Technically, though not likely, Summer (Ross) could play with Summer (Mrotek or Nash), to make Team Summer. Also conceivable that she'd play with April for team Ross, which I haven't heard since Friends was on the air.
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