Any rules for repeated screening?

[qww]

Hey! I encountered something annoying today, but instead if getting pissed off I tried to learn the lesson from it haha. It leads to a question though:

If one team has zero manners, and repeatedly on every single serve makes sure the other team is screened, well obviously they will have to move so they don't screen, but are there any penalties for intentionally doing this over and over?

It is very exhausting as the receiving team to every single time need to ask people to move, which can definately alter peoples moods and therefore create an advantage for the server that makes sure the others need to ask him/her to move every single time. The thing is though that I do not know if there is any rule against it? Is there a penalty for bad manners? Can you get disqualified for being an @$$%*!*?

While we are at the rules I'll throw in another one, it is illegal to have any type of suggesting communication to the other team, both during play but also between balls? I think it is, I am just not sure.

And I know anyone sporting the behaviours above to an extent that actually is annoying should not be played with, which means this should be a nonexistent problem. However they both are potential strategies for winning games, no matter how ugly, therefore the question!

[qww]

I went and dived into the rulebook, and found this: (haha not sure if anyone except me will care, but I find it quite interesting!)

12.6.1
Serving faults
The following faults lead to a change of service. The server:
12.6.1.1
violates the service order,
12.2, D9 (13)
12.6.1.2
does not execute the service properly.
12.4
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OFFICIAL BEACH VOLLEYBALL RULES 2017-2020
12.6.2
Faults after the service hit
After the ball has been correctly hit, the service becomes a fault if the
ball:
12.6.2.1
touches a player of the serving team or fails to cross the vertical plane of
the net completely through the crossing space;
D9 (19)
12.6.2.2
goes “out”;
8.4, D9 (15)
12.6.2.3
passes over a screen
D5

The last point there says it is a serving fault if the ball passes over a screen. Does this mean I have no responsibility to let the other team know they are screening me, let them serve and just collect the point? Of course I would have to let the judge know I am screened but in reality I could just catch the ball and say I was screened, and if it seems probable from the other teams positions it should be my point? In other words it is the serving teams responsibility to make sure they are not screening to even have a chance of getting a point in the rally?

[unrated]

Taking a blind swing at this:
1) A screen has to be called before the serve, otherwise the refs likely won't be able to tell a screen has occurred. The rule is written to cover the situation where the serve occurs while the receiving team is calling a screen.
2) Multiple intentional screens would likely be handled by the ref with cards (yellow, red, points etc) under 'other' or 'unsporting conduct' or somesuch.

[JB Southpaw]

Mar 6, 2017 10:40:10 GMT -5 qww said:

I went and dived into the rulebook, and found this: (haha not sure if anyone except me will care, but I find it quite interesting!)

12.6.1
Serving faults
The following faults lead to a change of service. The server:
12.6.1.1
violates the service order,
12.2, D9 (13)
12.6.1.2
does not execute the service properly.
12.4
27
OFFICIAL BEACH VOLLEYBALL RULES 2017-2020
12.6.2
Faults after the service hit
After the ball has been correctly hit, the service becomes a fault if the
ball:
12.6.2.1
touches a player of the serving team or fails to cross the vertical plane of
the net completely through the crossing space;
D9 (19)
12.6.2.2
goes “out”;
8.4, D9 (15)
12.6.2.3
passes over a screen
D5

The last point there says it is a serving fault if the ball passes over a screen. Does this mean I have no responsibility to let the other team know they are screening me, let them serve and just collect the point? Of course I would have to let the judge know I am screened but in reality I could just catch the ball and say I was screened, and if it seems probable from the other teams positions it should be my point? In other words it is the serving teams responsibility to make sure they are not screening to even have a chance of getting a point in the rally?

I have seen this called indoors, a team will get warnings about screening, then lose serve.

[Not Me]

Mar 6, 2017 11:39:55 GMT -5 unrated said:

Taking a blind swing at this:
1) A screen has to be called before the serve, otherwise the refs likely won't be able to tell a screen has occurred. The rule is written to cover the situation where the serve occurs while the receiving team is calling a screen.
2) Multiple intentional screens would likely be handled by the ref with cards (yellow, red, points etc) under 'other' or 'unsporting conduct' or somesuch.

You can't call a screen until the ball is served. It is only a screen if the ball goes over the screen.

Otherwise couldn't there be a screen on every play. I mean given the geometry, isn't it common for the blocker to be between the server and one of the passers?

The problem is when the passer moves and the blocker or server move as well to create the intentional screen.

[chicory]

No, I think it's pretty easy to stand so you're not obscuring the server or the ball at all.

[johnbar]

I recall an indoor women's match a few years ago. USC at Stanford. USC kept screening their server; Coach Dunning had to ask the ref several times in the first set for the USC players to move (before the serve) so Stanford could see the server. I think Mick finally gave up on that tactic.