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Post by 405LAX on May 11, 2017 1:31:19 GMT -5
Three names missing at Huntington off the top of my head. Casey is obvious but the other two aren't top-shelf players, curious why they wouldn't sign the AVP agreement when virtually everyone else did.
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Post by keeweekid on May 11, 2017 11:09:12 GMT -5
Wonder if they had to sign a few weeks ago or if they are still welcome to sign at any point going forward.
Maybe it is also a partner thing. If they don't have a partner, no reason to lock into a 4 year avp contract until you find a partner and figure out which direction (tour wise) you want to go. With the NVL letting anyone play, they could do a test run on NVL, if they like it stay. If they didn't like it, could switch over to AVP. IF they signed an AVP contract, if they decide to go try NVL, assume they are banned from AVP for a decent amount of time.
Other question is are they pros allowed to go play say Seaside or Motherlode where they are favorites and could make a decent amount of $ for a weekend of VB or do they have to run that up the AVP chain as well.
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Post by haze on May 11, 2017 14:53:16 GMT -5
I don't really get why Skylar Del Sol didn't sign. I thought it would be time for him to move over. He's better than a lot of the main draw players, and I see guys like Samuels, Schoonover, Zaun and a couple others made the move.
I know he's been an NVL mainstay and him and Marciniak have been dominating the last season or 2, but if the NVL only has 4 events this year, what's the motivation to stay on the NVL? It certainly isn't monetary even if he is winning every one. I know he likes representing USA and has possible hopes for bigger things, but if he never moves over he's going to get stuck carrying guys like Mesko in Norceca's. You'd think if he wanted a better partner to compete in AVP's he'd have to make the move and establish himself with a lot of those players.
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Post by guest2 on May 11, 2017 16:16:51 GMT -5
Wonder if they had to sign a few weeks ago or if they are still welcome to sign at any point going forward. Maybe it is also a partner thing. If they don't have a partner, no reason to lock into a 4 year avp contract until you find a partner and figure out which direction (tour wise) you want to go. With the NVL letting anyone play, they could do a test run on NVL, if they like it stay. If they didn't like it, could switch over to AVP. IF they signed an AVP contract, if they decide to go try NVL, assume they are banned from AVP for a decent amount of time. Other question is are they pros allowed to go play say Seaside or Motherlode where they are favorites and could make a decent amount of $ for a weekend of VB or do they have to run that up the AVP chain as well. Sun would be insane to let anyone other than Kerri sign after playing a few NVLs. It would be a slap in the face to the people he forced to sign already
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Post by FOBRA on May 11, 2017 16:30:29 GMT -5
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Post by guest2 on May 11, 2017 22:45:00 GMT -5
I like Robbie and have been hoping he would take the next step, but this is yet another super entitled athlete. Robbie has never won anything, drawn a single fan or created any value whatsoever for the AVP. I'd love to know what promotion Robbie has done for he tour other than showing up and cashing his 9th place checks. He is somehow exploited by charity? Reminds me of when you give a homeless person a dollar and he gives you that look like, "only a dollar?" (of course that happens extremely rarely because most homeless people, unlike AVP players, appreciate charity)
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Post by JB Southpaw on May 12, 2017 7:04:49 GMT -5
I like Robbie and have been hoping he would take the next step, but this is yet another super entitled athlete. Robbie has never won anything, drawn a single fan or created any value whatsoever for the AVP. I'd love to know what promotion Robbie has done for he tour other than showing up and cashing his 9th place checks. He is somehow exploited by charity? Reminds me of when you give a homeless person a dollar and he gives you that look like, "only a dollar?" (of course that happens extremely rarely because most homeless people, unlike AVP players, appreciate charity) I agree! Totally laughable response from an immature athlete. Sun should make the same deal with the players as the NBA has, I think it's like 51% profit to the owners, 49% to players.....because 49% of negative income, is a lot less than they make now.
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Post by gobruins on May 13, 2017 4:15:07 GMT -5
I like Robbie and have been hoping he would take the next step, but this is yet another super entitled athlete. Robbie has never won anything, drawn a single fan or created any value whatsoever for the AVP. I'd love to know what promotion Robbie has done for he tour other than showing up and cashing his 9th place checks. He is somehow exploited by charity? Reminds me of when you give a homeless person a dollar and he gives you that look like, "only a dollar?" (of course that happens extremely rarely because most homeless people, unlike AVP players, appreciate charity) I agree! Totally laughable response from an immature athlete. Sun should make the same deal with the players as the NBA has, I think it's like 51% profit to the owners, 49% to players.....because 49% of negative income, is a lot less than they make now. The NBA's deal is that the players get a percentage of total income, not profits. But don't let the facts get in the way of your rant!
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Post by newenglander on May 13, 2017 9:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by VolleyChick on May 14, 2017 15:53:38 GMT -5
[/quote]That being said, nobody should be talking about revenue sharing unless there's actually a profit.[/quote]
Best comment I've seen on this entire discussion.
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Post by guest2 on May 14, 2017 17:00:42 GMT -5
I agree! Totally laughable response from an immature athlete. Sun should make the same deal with the players as the NBA has, I think it's like 51% profit to the owners, 49% to players.....because 49% of negative income, is a lot less than they make now. The NBA's deal is that the players get a percentage of total income, not profits. But don't let the facts get in the way of your rant! The NBA also has players that add value to their league unlike the AVP. Robbie Page couldnt draw a crowd if he played naked and shot his partner in the head on match point, which based on his history would almost certainly be match point against him.
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Post by trollhunter on May 14, 2017 17:45:17 GMT -5
The NBA's deal is that the players get a percentage of total income, not profits. But don't let the facts get in the way of your rant! The NBA also has players that add value to their league unlike the AVP. Robbie Page couldnt draw a crowd if he played naked and shot his partner in the head on match point, which based on his history would almost certainly be match point against him. Don't sugar coat it, tell us what you really think.
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Post by newenglander on May 14, 2017 18:22:05 GMT -5
The NBA also has players that add value to their league unlike the AVP. Robbie Page couldnt draw a crowd if he played naked and shot his partner in the head on match point, which based on his history would almost certainly be match point against him. Don't sugar coat it, tell us what you really think. Ok, that's cold. I don't have any personal knowledge of him and don't want to get personal however that's funny writing.
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Post by Stanlifornia on May 14, 2017 21:43:40 GMT -5
The NBA's deal is that the players get a percentage of total income, not profits. But don't let the facts get in the way of your rant! The NBA also has players that add value to their league unlike the AVP. Robbie Page couldnt draw a crowd if he played naked and shot his partner in the head on match point, which based on his history would almost certainly be match point against him. Not invested in this either way, but this is A+ writing. I LOLed pretty hard.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on May 14, 2017 23:57:39 GMT -5
So the value of a player's opinion is solely based on how many tournaments they've won? Good to know. Based on that, guess the only opinion that matters is Kerri's.
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