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Post by ay2013 on Nov 25, 2017 12:36:42 GMT -5
Blue, if Washington didn't drop their 5 set matches to OSU (twice), Utah, and beat Creighton, so only 3 loses on the year, would we have the #2 RPI?
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Post by lionsfan on Nov 25, 2017 12:37:46 GMT -5
Blue, if Washington didn't drop their 5 set matches to OSU (twice), Utah, and beat Creighton, so only 3 loses on the year, would we have the #2 RPI? That's a lotta "if"
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Post by Millennium on Nov 25, 2017 12:56:30 GMT -5
Just 20 more matches - and I am amazed that I cannot get definite projections for some basic scenarios. If, Florida, Penn State, Stanford, Texas, and Nebraska win today, then: it will be Texas (4), Stanford (5), Nebraska (6), Minnesota (7), Washington (8). But the order for the top 3 is up in the air. The likely order would be Penn State (1), Kentucky (2), and Florida (3), but I cannot figure out (yet) which other matches would trigger a difference. If we change it so that Texas loses - then Stanford will be 4 and Nebraska likely will be 5 with Texas 6th. 6 of the top 7 teams in RPI play today - yet some other matches (there are only 15 other matches) will help determine the final order. It's been a wild ride and it's weird that there is only one day remaining. I just want to say thanks for doing the RPI Futures all season long.
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Post by Wiswell on Nov 25, 2017 13:06:37 GMT -5
Penn State might be the quietest 27-1 team in the history of sports. Yes, still tied with Nebraska at the top of the BIG, but 27-1 people. Russ deserves more credit. And, if the Gophers beat them today it will give the Huskers the title but I still say both Minnesota and PSU have a better shot to win the national championship. I blame the PSU fans. They've mellowed! While I think PSU is the most likely NC, they aren't head and shoulders above the next 3-4 teams in terms of talent. However THEY Have Played Most consistently all season and not been challenged in their victories.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 13:15:00 GMT -5
Penn State might be the quietest 27-1 team in the history of sports. Yes, still tied with Nebraska at the top of the BIG, but 27-1 people. Russ deserves more credit. And, if the Gophers beat them today it will give the Huskers the title but I still say both Minnesota and PSU have a better shot to win the national championship. I blame the PSU fans. They've mellowed! While I think PSU is the most likely NC, they aren't head and shoulders above the next 3-4 teams in terms of talent. However THEY Have Played Most consistently all season and not been challenged in their victories. Well, very early on Texas A&M took them to five, as did Stanford and Ohio State (I know I'm forgetting someone else), so they have faced some challenges. But for the most part, you're correct.
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Post by Boof1224 on Nov 25, 2017 13:41:48 GMT -5
I blame the PSU fans. They've mellowed! While I think PSU is the most likely NC, they aren't head and shoulders above the next 3-4 teams in terms of talent. However THEY Have Played Most consistently all season and not been challenged in their victories. Well, very early on Texas A&M took them to five, as did Stanford and Ohio State (I know I'm forgetting someone else), so they have faced some challenges. But for the most part, you're correct. But they really havnt struggled since beginning of year. We will see what happens tonight.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 25, 2017 15:44:14 GMT -5
Blue, if Washington didn't drop their 5 set matches to OSU (twice), Utah, and beat Creighton, so only 3 loses on the year, would we have the #2 RPI? And pulled out the five setter at Stanford, after going up 2-1.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 25, 2017 17:31:31 GMT -5
If UCLA wins (other matches will impact some of this)
1. Penn State 2. Kentucky 3. Florida 4. Texas 5. Stanford 6. Nebraska 7. Minnesota 8. Washington 9. Utah 10. USC 11. Creighton 12. Iowa State 13. Baylor 14. Wichita State 15. UCLA 16. BYU 17. Wisconsin 18. Cal Poly 19. Kansas 20. San Diego 21. Oregon 22. Louisville 23. Michigan State 24. Purdue 25. Colorado 26. Illinois
If USC wins.
1. Kentucky 2. Penn State 3. Florida 4. Texas 5. Stanford 6. Nebraska 7. Minnesota 8. Washington 9. USC 10. Utah 11. Creighton 12. Iowa State 13. Baylor 14. Wichita State 15. BYU 16. Wisconsin 17. Cal Poly 18. Kansas 19. San Diego 20. Oregon 21. Louisville 22. Michigan State 23. Purdue 24. UCLA 25. Colorado 26. Illinois
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Post by bkedane on Nov 25, 2017 17:34:12 GMT -5
If UCLA wins (other matches will impact some of this) 1. Penn State 2. Kentucky 3. Florida 4. Texas 5. Stanford 6. Nebraska 7. Minnesota 8. Washington 9. Utah 10. USC 11. Creighton 12. Iowa State 13. Baylor 14. Wichita State 15. UCLA 16. BYU 17. Wisconsin 18. Cal Poly 19. Kansas 20. San Diego 21. Oregon 22. Louisville 23. Michigan State 24. Purdue 25. Colorado 26. Illinois If USC wins. 1. Kentucky 2. Penn State 3. Florida 4. Texas 5. Stanford 6. Nebraska 7. Minnesota 8. Washington 9. USC 10. Utah 11. Creighton 12. Iowa State 13. Baylor 14. Wichita State 15. BYU 16. Wisconsin 17. Cal Poly 18. Kansas 19. San Diego 20. Oregon 21. Louisville 22. Michigan State 23. Purdue 24. UCLA 25. Colorado 26. Illinois It's more evidence of a wild year that final day match results can make for such large differences.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 25, 2017 17:34:37 GMT -5
So, if UCLA wins it would seem to come down to Wichita State, BYU, Wisconsin, and Cal Poly for the last two seeds.
If UCLA loses it would seem to come down to Wichita State, BYU, Wisconsin, Cal Poly, and Kansas for the last three.
Anyone want to make a guess/prediction if either scenario tonight?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 25, 2017 17:38:54 GMT -5
If UCLA wins (other matches will impact some of this) 1. Penn State 2. Kentucky 3. Florida 4. Texas 5. Stanford 6. Nebraska 7. Minnesota 8. Washington 9. Utah 10. USC 11. Creighton 12. Iowa State 13. Baylor 14. Wichita State 15. UCLA 16. BYU 17. Wisconsin 18. Cal Poly 19. Kansas 20. San Diego 21. Oregon 22. Louisville 23. Michigan State 24. Purdue 25. Colorado 26. Illinois If USC wins. 1. Kentucky 2. Penn State 3. Florida 4. Texas 5. Stanford 6. Nebraska 7. Minnesota 8. Washington 9. USC 10. Utah 11. Creighton 12. Iowa State 13. Baylor 14. Wichita State 15. BYU 16. Wisconsin 17. Cal Poly 18. Kansas 19. San Diego 20. Oregon 21. Louisville 22. Michigan State 23. Purdue 24. UCLA 25. Colorado 26. Illinois so does Wichita have the resume (other than RPI) to host over Kansas? otherwise, it looks like coming down to UCLA or Wisconsin for the last host/seed
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 25, 2017 17:43:19 GMT -5
So, if UCLA wins it would seem to come down to Wichita State, BYU, Wisconsin, and Cal Poly for the last two seeds. If UCLA loses it would seem to come down to Wichita State, BYU, Wisconsin, Cal Poly, and Kansas for the last three. Anyone want to make a guess/prediction if either scenario tonight? That’s a total mess. Plus none of those are convenient for the bracket. UCLA at the top of the heap for sure if they win. Kansas’ Top 25 wins would normally having them think it’s safe but the Committee has not taken kindly to borderline seeds getting upset in the last week in the past. I’d nominally have them there. BYU is probably good either way. I don’t see Wisconsin jumping them if the Committee is doing its job. Wichita v Wisconsin v Kansas is tough for me.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 25, 2017 17:56:50 GMT -5
So, if UCLA wins it would seem to come down to Wichita State, BYU, Wisconsin, and Cal Poly for the last two seeds. If UCLA loses it would seem to come down to Wichita State, BYU, Wisconsin, Cal Poly, and Kansas for the last three. Anyone want to make a guess/prediction if either scenario tonight? Wichita just doesn't have a great resume for a seed, Poly has an arguably better quality win profile than Wichita with their win over Wichita and two Hawaii wins vs. Wichita's Creighton & Marquette wins which were both at Wichita - it's hard to justify Wichita as a seed over POly, and since the committe won't seed Poly they shouldn't seed Wichita so I see: if UCLA wins UCLA & BYU (but maybe UCLA & Wisconsin) otherwise if UCLA loses, it's pretty simple IMO BYU & Wisconsin just hard to imagine BYU not seeded no way Kansas is seeded - I think BYU, Wisky, & UCLA get 2 of those last 3 seeds at this point
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Post by Boof1224 on Nov 25, 2017 17:58:37 GMT -5
It’s hard to imagine a team that’s 8th in their conference (wisky) getting seed.
If that’s what the commitee decides to do then I believe you almost have to put Nebraska ahead of Texas barring they don’t lose tonight
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 25, 2017 18:01:15 GMT -5
So, if UCLA wins it would seem to come down to Wichita State, BYU, Wisconsin, and Cal Poly for the last two seeds. If UCLA loses it would seem to come down to Wichita State, BYU, Wisconsin, Cal Poly, and Kansas for the last three. Anyone want to make a guess/prediction if either scenario tonight? Wichita just doesn't have a great resume for a seed, Poly has an arguably better quality win profile than Wichita with their win over Wichita and two Hawaii wins vs. Wichita's Creighton & Marquette wins which were both at Wichita - it's hard to justify Wichita as a seed over POly, and since the committe won't seed Poly they shouldn't seed Wichita so I see: if UCLA wins UCLA & BYU & Wisky - that's easy for the committee otherwise if UCLA loses, it's more complicated BYU & Wisconsin & Kansas/Wichita/Poly - so maybe Kansas can sneak in as a seed,- would the committee actually seed Poly (and send UCLA there?) - wow, just hard to imagine BYU not seeded no way I thought Kansas is seeded afer the loss, but maybe so if UCLA loses Wichita is just too hard to justify as a seed IMO had to rethink this and edit
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