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Post by johnbar on Nov 27, 2017 19:01:21 GMT -5
USAV and its 40 Regions Jointly Launch USA National Beach Tour www.teamusa.org/USA-Volleyball/Features/2017/November/27/USAV-and-its-40-Regions-Jointly-Launch-USA-National-Beach-Tour"The Junior Beach National Championships (JBNC), which will take place in July, will have three divisions for both genders: National Open (bid), Regional Open (bid) and Patriot (non-bid). "Adult Beach National Championships (ABNC), which is anticipated to take place in September, will have divisions for men, women and coed in six different skill levels: Open, AAA, AA, A, BB and B." |
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Post by donnyw on Nov 27, 2017 19:12:50 GMT -5
Does this hurt the NVL trying to get back up & running or help them?
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Post by johnbar on Nov 27, 2017 21:16:43 GMT -5
I don't see how it can help the NVL, unless they have some sort of deal. No mention of such a thing.
Will there be an NVL in 2018?
OTOH, nothing to stop Branagh & Walsh from playing on the USAV tour, if it materializes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 0:01:47 GMT -5
On the junior tour side the USAV essentially closed down and abandoned their customers the last half of 2017. Few, if any, tournaments held August thru December. The 2018 schedule is still not up under this ill concieved National Beach Tour. In the meantime the AVPFirst came in and set nearly 30 tournaments set in Texas alone. The AAU has also expanded their number of tournaments. USAV is just too late with this. Most of the club owners have already set up their events and interest from most regional offices is nil. They actually had a good thing going by centralizing the organization and marketing of these junior events, then threw it all away.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Nov 28, 2017 8:59:44 GMT -5
I question USAV's ability to running true "Open" events concerning the payouts. Of course they are probably going to sub out to existing tours.
There is overhead concerns from doing this at a regional level.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Nov 28, 2017 9:51:27 GMT -5
Traded emails with the Florida's outdoor tournament director.
Says the FL region's details will be out on the site next Monday. I'm interested in seeing how they battle or align with the dominant tours already established in FL.
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Post by mati on Nov 28, 2017 9:55:00 GMT -5
This is primarily a push into the junior market. When the concept was conceived, the adult portion was designed to focus on the recreational players. A better comparison to Volley America than the NVL.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Nov 28, 2017 9:57:19 GMT -5
This is primarily a push into the junior market. When the concept was conceived, the adult portion was designed to focus on the recreational players. A better comparison to Volley America than the NVL. I do like it for the juniors. The bids will help (hopefully) build a true "Nationals" instead of being mostly CA teams. |
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Post by Semp12 on Nov 28, 2017 10:35:24 GMT -5
This is primarily a push into the junior market. When the concept was conceived, the adult portion was designed to focus on the recreational players. A better comparison to Volley America than the NVL. I do like it for the juniors. The bids will help (hopefully) build a true "Nationals" instead of being mostly CA teams. The beach market is kind of up and running already, so it will be interesting. The question is, is this another way for USAV to make money off juniors, or will they actually invest and look to make a quality tour? The adults are questionable as well. The trend in my region are adults indoor bowing out of USAV and playing tournaments at facilities/locations that run their own events with their own insurance (save on the cost of the membership, more prize money or a cheaper entry since they don't bring in paid officials typically). |
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Post by JB Southpaw on Nov 28, 2017 10:52:18 GMT -5
I do like it for the juniors. The bids will help (hopefully) build a true "Nationals" instead of being mostly CA teams. The beach market is kind of up and running already, so it will be interesting. The question is, is this another way for USAV to make money off juniors, or will they actually invest and look to make a quality tour? The adults are questionable as well. The trend in my region are adults indoor bowing out of USAV and playing tournaments at facilities/locations that run their own events with their own insurance (save on the cost of the membership, more prize money or a cheaper entry since they don't bring in paid officials typically). In Florida with minimal Adult indoor events, the issue has been for ever, what is the value of a USAV membership fee for the adult player? $40 or whatever it is, is not something most adult players just want to give up with nothing in return. |
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Post by johnbar on Nov 28, 2017 10:59:24 GMT -5
This is primarily a push into the junior market. When the concept was conceived, the adult portion was designed to focus on the recreational players. A better comparison to Volley America than the NVL. Thanks. |
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