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Post by les on Dec 23, 2017 14:37:08 GMT -5
Losing to Illinois is the beginning of the end for Cook. Experimenting with the lineup only a few weeks left before the tourney is a sign of a "not have it together" coach. And then to not motivate the team to beat a so-so Illinois team is something JM would have resigned over and taken up professional surfing for. I give him 2-3 years before the UW administraction cans him. You heard it here first! You mean like when JMac's highly favored Huskies lost to Colorado State in round 2 in 2009? Or do you mean 2008, when UW, at home was up 2-0 over Nebraska, and then had a 9-3 lead in the 5th and lost? Or do you mean 2007, again at home, when a highly-favored UW lost in the 2nd round to BYU? I don't recall the lineups of those teams nor that of the opposition, but I do know that this team had too many quality players to not make it to the sweet 16. How can a team not advance with Bajema, Dehoog, Jones, Schwan, Bailey, Scambray and etc. Unfathomable to lose like they did.
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Post by luckydawg on Dec 23, 2017 15:01:18 GMT -5
You mean like when JMac's highly favored Huskies lost to Colorado State in round 2 in 2009? Or do you mean 2008, when UW, at home was up 2-0 over Nebraska, and then had a 9-3 lead in the 5th and lost? Or do you mean 2007, again at home, when a highly-favored UW lost in the 2nd round to BYU? I don't recall the lineups of those teams nor that of the opposition, but I do know that this team had too many quality players to not make it to the sweet 16. How can a team not advance with Bajema, Dehoog, Jones, Schwan, Bailey, Scambray and etc. Unfathomable to lose like they did. And yet he coached them to two Pac12 titles and a second place in three seasons. Also beat Stanford and USC this season.
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Post by les on Dec 23, 2017 15:10:40 GMT -5
I don't recall the lineups of those teams nor that of the opposition, but I do know that this team had too many quality players to not make it to the sweet 16. How can a team not advance with Bajema, Dehoog, Jones, Schwan, Bailey, Scambray and etc. Unfathomable to lose like they did. And yet he coached them to two Pac12 titles and a second place in three seasons. Also beat Stanford and USC this season. That's exactly my point. He took JM's recruiting classes, added all-pac players like Dehoog (finally back from injury), Bajema, Marion and Sanders to the lineup and yet regressed. He has no excuse to not progress to the next level with this group.
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Post by chisovnik on Dec 23, 2017 15:15:48 GMT -5
I also really loathe the slower tempo sets to the middle that he insists on keeping from the JMac era. Like, why? He's lucky he's sexy.
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Post by luckydawg on Dec 23, 2017 15:16:20 GMT -5
And yet he coached them to two Pac12 titles and a second place in three seasons. Also beat Stanford and USC this season. That's exactly my point. He took JM's recruiting classes, added all-pac players like Dehoog (finally back from injury), Bajema, Marion and Sanders to the lineup and yet regressed. He has no excuse to not progress to the next level with this group. Welcome to high level college sports, where winners are targets for everyone else, not everything goes perfectly, and your expectations are dependent on 18-22 year old students.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 23, 2017 15:24:43 GMT -5
Les right now
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Dec 23, 2017 15:30:52 GMT -5
I also really loathe the slower tempo sets to the middle that he insists on keeping from the JMac era. Like, why? He's lucky he's sexy. a lot of GMS women’s programs tend to run sets to middles like this UW, BYU, Notre Dame. It’s awful to watch
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Post by les on Dec 23, 2017 15:52:25 GMT -5
I also really loathe the slower tempo sets to the middle that he insists on keeping from the JMac era. Like, why? He's lucky he's sexy. a lot of GMS women’s programs tend to run sets to middles like this UW, BYU, Notre Dame. It’s awful to watch Inky never minded.
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Post by les on Dec 23, 2017 15:55:25 GMT -5
That's exactly my point. He took JM's recruiting classes, added all-pac players like Dehoog (finally back from injury), Bajema, Marion and Sanders to the lineup and yet regressed. He has no excuse to not progress to the next level with this group. Welcome to high level college sports, where winners are targets for everyone else, not everything goes perfectly, and your expectations are dependent on 18-22 year old students. Again, exactly my point. A coach that doesn't meet expectations in a highly visible program is out the door if it is a reoccurring pattern. That is why I say 2-3 years and it will be time to give him the boot.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 23, 2017 16:43:42 GMT -5
You mean like when JMac's highly favored Huskies lost to Colorado State in round 2 in 2009? Or do you mean 2008, when UW, at home was up 2-0 over Nebraska, and then had a 9-3 lead in the 5th and lost? Or do you mean 2007, again at home, when a highly-favored UW lost in the 2nd round to BYU? I don't recall the lineups of those teams nor that of the opposition, but I do know that this team had too many quality players to not make it to the sweet 16. How can a team not advance with Bajema, Dehoog, Jones, Schwan, Bailey, Scambray and etc. Unfathomable to lose like they did. In '09, JMac had Becky Perry and senior Tama Miyashiro, 2 of the top players for UW since I've been a fan. UW was #6 seed. CSU unseeded. In '07, JMac had a team that included Morrison, Swarbrick and Deesing. UW was the #6 seed. BYU was unseeded. In neither of those years, did UW struggle with the injury issues that plagued the 2017 team. Calling for the firing of JMac after those two losses would have been a remarkable level of stupid. Just like now.
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Post by Word on Dec 23, 2017 16:50:38 GMT -5
Losing to Illinois is the beginning of the end for Cook. Experimenting with the lineup only a few weeks left before the tourney is a sign of a "not have it together" coach. And then to not motivate the team to beat a so-so Illinois team is something JM would have resigned over and taken up professional surfing for. I give him 2-3 years before the UW administraction cans him. You heard it here first! When UCLA won the title in 2011, they were in a free for all the last week of season. Sealy tried out a 6-2 his last matches before switching back to the 5-1 for playoffs. Since it worked for him, people thought it was great to experiment before playoffs. But since it didn't work for Cook, that means he is going to get fired soon. Don't agree at all with your train of thought here.
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Post by luckydawg on Dec 23, 2017 17:00:05 GMT -5
Welcome to high level college sports, where winners are targets for everyone else, not everything goes perfectly, and your expectations are dependent on 18-22 year old students. Again, exactly my point. A coach that doesn't meet expectations in a highly visible program is out the door if it is a reoccurring pattern. That is why I say 2-3 years and it will be time to give him the boot. Just curious how you think that Cook's record at his job (86-16) compares to you at yours? Even compare his three year record to a sampling of other current coaches.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Dec 23, 2017 18:12:31 GMT -5
I also really loathe the slower tempo sets to the middle that he insists on keeping from the JMac era. Like, why? He's lucky he's sexy. Did JMac actually run "slows" to the middles? I believe St. Mary's used it when KC was there (under Rob Browning) and he brought it with him.
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Post by les on Dec 23, 2017 18:15:22 GMT -5
Again, exactly my point. A coach that doesn't meet expectations in a highly visible program is out the door if it is a reoccurring pattern. That is why I say 2-3 years and it will be time to give him the boot. Just curious how you think that Cook's record at his job (86-16) compares to you at yours? Even compare his three year record to a sampling of other current coaches. he was riding JMs coattails for the first few years. Trump could have taken this group to a similar record. the fact that he progressively did worse with them is the tell tale.
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Post by luckydawg on Dec 23, 2017 18:38:42 GMT -5
Just curious how you think that Cook's record at his job (86-16) compares to you at yours? Even compare his three year record to a sampling of other current coaches. he was riding JMs coattails for the first few years. Trump could have taken this group to a similar record. the fact that he progressively did worse with them is the tell tale. JM's record in his last three years at UW: 86-13. How do you think Keegan's record would have been with Krista on his team for four years?
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