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Post by volleyca on Dec 10, 2017 13:02:18 GMT -5
Biggest question will be setting IMO. Heard y’all of Shook transferring can anyone confirm the tea? Regardless if she transfers or not I think if Olivia Dailey (starting setter @ Kentucky 2016 honorable mention all american) could help texas out
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Post by southie on Dec 10, 2017 13:04:39 GMT -5
He needs to spend a little less time finding the high flying athlete with the 80 inch vertical jump and find a coulee 5'6 girls who can pass the ball. Hasn't this been his Achilles heel forever. Moon ball to pins is fine for a watered down Big 12 conference, but look at his last 4 NCAA losses. Texas club culture is the same way. They go out and try accumulate the biggest, strongest hitters and pay scant attention to shorter girls that have balanced skills. They emphasize playing your narrow role to set up the hitter. Defensive skills, ace serving, are for those that don't have big hitters. A Meghan McClure type player here would have been told over and over she's too short. McClure would be on the bench if 6'2 Haley Hodson was still at Stanford.
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Post by Pasquale on Dec 10, 2017 13:31:58 GMT -5
Unfortunately the 2017 came to an end short of everyone's expectations going in to the season. However, I think most knew the task was going to be daunting when the bracket was released as Stanford is tough tree to chop in Maples Pavilion and was a tough match-up for the team regardless. However, it wasn't all bad as Texas swept the Big XII and made yet another Regional final. Will definitely miss the seniors. Thanks for the great memories (and there were a lot of good ones!). Looking to 2018, Texas will be losing starters RS Ebony Nwanebu, MB Chiaka Ogbogu, L Cat McCoy. Also loses MB Mirta Baselovic. Have heard that DS Natalie Gilbert may be moving on with life. However all is not lost, Texas still has a pretty strong arsenal of players. Texas will definitely be a younger team than this past year but younger teams from multiple universities have performed well over the past few years. So by position Texas will have the following roster assuming no transfers. OH: Micaya White (RS Jr.) Lexi Sun (Spoh.)
RS: Yaasmeen Bedart-Ghani (Sr.) S: Ashley Shook (Soph.) Riley Fisbeck (Jr.) Jhenna Gabriel (Fr.)
MB: Brionne Butler (RS Fr.) Morgan Johnson (Sr.) Blair Westerlund (RS So.) Orie Ogbaji (Jr.) Asjia O'Neal (Fr.)
DS/L: Autumn Rounsaville (Jr.) Claire Hahn (Jr.) Olivia Zelon (RS Fr.) Natalie Gilbert (? See above) Sydney Petersen (Fr.)
So major question marks going in to 2018:
Can anybody pass? On paper, the DS position is overall getting older and thus would likely improve. Who will win the Libero position is definitely a big question as Texas loses its all-time dig leader in Cat McCoy. Sydney Petersen coming in would seem to be the likely candidate but who knows. White made some progress in 2017, but needs to get better as does Sun.
Depth on the pins? Texas appears to be very thin on the pins in regard to depth. Does a MB slide to OH. Is there a transfer in the works? While the projected starters are stars, there currently is no one backing them up.
Can anyone serve? Texas really struggled with serving in 2017. White was the worse contributor with her jump serve. Will it improve or will it get ditched? Everyone really needs to work in this area to cut out the atrocious number of service errors.
Other thoughts: Setting surely improves. It has to, right?. Shook will have all Spring to really develop a connection with the hitters. If she doesn't, one would think Gabriel will push for playing time.
There is a log jam at MB. Something is bound to happen with the position. Either someone moves to OH or someone transfers out I would think. Also who grabs the open position. Would think it would Butler but O'Neal is also coming in. Maybe they both overtake Johnson.
Lexi Sun had an up and down freshman campaign. Will she steady out more next year? Its likely she will and hopefully will improve as passer which according to Coach Elliott was part of her struggles with hitting.
What will Texas's schedule look like? Obviously Elliott will want to try to make sure they have a high RPI. However, there is a fine line between scheduling to achieve this. Rumors have that the schedule could have more games against the higher rated teams. However, early season loses to those team could end up hurting in the end like this past season.
Only three pin hitters?
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Post by fetchin on Dec 10, 2017 13:52:57 GMT -5
I thought that Erik Sullivan might make more of a difference on the ball control side of things given his background but apparently not the case or the players don't have the ability. Erik Sullivan is one of the most overrated US liberos ever I rejoiced when Erik Shoji finally unseated him.
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Post by Stanlifornia on Dec 10, 2017 13:53:25 GMT -5
First time seeing Texas in person yesterday (at least this version of the team) and those hitting lines are impressive. Crank after crank.
What I thought they lacked yesterday, aside from the passing woes, was a bona fide floor leader. Saw it from Chi at times, and YBG kind of gets there when she plays, but it was a very neither here nor there demeanor from everybody else.
Texas folks, who do you project that to be next season?
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Post by ngc9494 on Dec 10, 2017 14:03:38 GMT -5
First time seeing Texas in person yesterday (at least this version of the team) and those hitting lines are impressive. Crank after crank. What I thought they lacked yesterday, aside from the passing woes, was a bona fide floor leader. Saw it from Chi at times, and YBG kind of gets there when she plays, but it was a very neither here nor there demeanor from everybody else. Texas folks, who do you project that to be next season? YBG I could see...she’ll have a lot more playing time next year so hopefully she can find that leadership.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 10, 2017 14:46:37 GMT -5
First time seeing Texas in person yesterday (at least this version of the team) and those hitting lines are impressive. Crank after crank. What I thought they lacked yesterday, aside from the passing woes, was a bona fide floor leader. Saw it from Chi at times, and YBG kind of gets there when she plays, but it was a very neither here nor there demeanor from everybody else. Texas folks, who do you project that to be next season? I think all of this pretty spot on. It seems like a lot of the girlsbthis year were too reserved to crank each other up, even after big plays. YBG could fill this roll playing full time. I often see setters provide that kind of team leadership, so maybe Shook can grow into with time.
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Dec 10, 2017 15:27:12 GMT -5
He needs to spend a little less time finding the high flying athlete with the 80 inch vertical jump and find a coulee 5'6 girls who can pass the ball. Hasn't this been his Achilles heel forever. Moon ball to pins is fine for a watered down Big 12 conference, but look at his last 4 NCAA losses. Texas club culture is the same way. They go out and try accumulate the biggest, strongest hitters and pay scant attention to shorter girls that have balanced skills. They emphasize playing your narrow role to set up the hitter. Defensive skills, ace serving, are for those that don't have big hitters. A Meghan McClure type player here would have been told over and over she's too short. Amy Neal would beg to differ.
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Post by azsker on Dec 10, 2017 15:27:59 GMT -5
JE is an excellent recruiter... but a very poor coach. Bad game plans and not so good player development. Especially in the back court. If he was in a different conference it would even be exposed to a higher extent. The Big12 allows much of the flaws to go unoticed. Texas does hold the record for most semifinal losses. With texas' extreme hitter talents they win games easily in big12. But often get exposed on the big stage. Its the texas back court defense.. subpar. Coach Elliott handed John Cook his lunch in last year's national semi-final dismantling. Guess your Husker head coach got thoroughly schooled and outcoached by someone you don't consider a good coach; says a lot about your own coach, who Elliott has beaten so many times this last decade. You know damn well that wasn’t coaching. Nebraska was absolutely discombobulated and UT played phenomenal. How can you not agree that JE isn’t the best coach? The man can recruit hitters, but the execution isn’t always there. You can’t use one game as your reference. You have the look at the entire picture. bball wasn’t trying to make it a competitive thing between Texas and Nebraska. There’s no reason to get so defensive about that. Look at player development. Do you think Nwanebu got better at UT? How about McCoy? White so far? Sun over this first year? She was the top player in her class, and never got better. We won’t even get started on Shook. YBG? She has a good game and highlights, then is benched in the next. Samedy, Hilley, Lilley, Rettke...look at their development. It was amazing. Texas continues to get high recruits after high recruits, but no one gets better. You have 1 trophy to show for it. And a lot of disappointments. That was the point being made. To argue against that is just denial.
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Post by southie on Dec 10, 2017 15:38:04 GMT -5
Coach Elliott handed John Cook his lunch in last year's national semi-final dismantling. Guess your Husker head coach got thoroughly schooled and outcoached by someone you don't consider a good coach; says a lot about your own coach, who Elliott has beaten so many times this last decade. You know damn well that wasn’t coaching. Nebraska was absolutely discombobulated and UT played phenomenal. How can you not agree that JE isn’t the best coach? The man can recruit hitters, but the execution isn’t always there. You can’t use one game as your reference. You have the look at the entire picture. bball wasn’t trying to make it a competitive thing between Texas and Nebraska. There’s no reason to get so defensive about that. Look at player development. Do you think Nwanebu got better at UT? How about McCoy? White so far? Sun over this first year? She was the top player in her class, and never got better. We won’t even get started on Shook. YBG? She has a good game and highlights, then is benched in the next. Samedy, Hilley, Lilley, Rettke...look at their development. It was amazing. Texas continues to get high recruits after high recruits, but no one gets better. You have 1 trophy to show for it. And a lot of disappointments. That was the point being made. To argue against that is just denial. Get back to me when Cook can win a national title outside the state of Nebraska. And, look at the head-to-head matchups between Cook and Elliott over the last 10 years. If Elliott isn't a good coach, and he's owned Cook, what does that say about Cook?
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Post by azsker on Dec 10, 2017 15:45:08 GMT -5
You know damn well that wasn’t coaching. Nebraska was absolutely discombobulated and UT played phenomenal. How can you not agree that JE isn’t the best coach? The man can recruit hitters, but the execution isn’t always there. You can’t use one game as your reference. You have the look at the entire picture. bball wasn’t trying to make it a competitive thing between Texas and Nebraska. There’s no reason to get so defensive about that. Look at player development. Do you think Nwanebu got better at UT? How about McCoy? White so far? Sun over this first year? She was the top player in her class, and never got better. We won’t even get started on Shook. YBG? She has a good game and highlights, then is benched in the next. Samedy, Hilley, Lilley, Rettke...look at their development. It was amazing. Texas continues to get high recruits after high recruits, but no one gets better. You have 1 trophy to show for it. And a lot of disappointments. That was the point being made. To argue against that is just denial. Get back to me when Cook can win a national title outside the state of Nebraska. And, look at the head-to-head matchups between Cook and Elliott over the last 10 years. If Elliott isn't a good coach, and he's owned Cook, what does that say about Cook? You clearly misunderstood me when I said THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NEBRASKA. But since you have such an infatuation with the Huskers, I’ll answer your question: John Cook won the 2000 title in Virginia.
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Post by southie on Dec 10, 2017 15:48:12 GMT -5
Get back to me when Cook can win a national title outside the state of Nebraska. And, look at the head-to-head matchups between Cook and Elliott over the last 10 years. If Elliott isn't a good coach, and he's owned Cook, what does that say about Cook? You clearly misunderstood me when I said THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NEBRASKA. But since you have such an infatuation with the Huskers, I’ll answer your question: John Cook won the 2000 title in Virginia. Then why the eff are you and bball on this thread? bball finds every opportunity to knock Texas; and, you aren't far behind. If you are gonna spew stuff about Texas on here, I am gonna give it right back to you. No one asked you to post on this thread about Texas; your choice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 15:50:49 GMT -5
Texas club culture is the same way. They go out and try accumulate the biggest, strongest hitters and pay scant attention to shorter girls that have balanced skills. They emphasize playing your narrow role to set up the hitter. Defensive skills, ace serving, are for those that don't have big hitters. A Meghan McClure type player here would have been told over and over she's too short. Amy Neal would beg to differ. She's actually the exception that proves the rule. She's talked about how difficult it was being labeled undersized and how she had to overcome that her whole way up the ladder. You'd would think that coaches would remember from one year to the next a player's attributes, but being big and tall is in your face 24/7, so they forget.
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Post by azsker on Dec 10, 2017 15:54:41 GMT -5
You clearly misunderstood me when I said THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NEBRASKA. But since you have such an infatuation with the Huskers, I’ll answer your question: John Cook won the 2000 title in Virginia. Then why the eff are you and bball on this thread? bball finds every opportunity to knock Texas; and, you aren't far behind. If you are gonna spew stuff about Texas on here, I am gonna give it right back to you. No one asked you to post on this thread about Texas; your choice. I wasn’t spewing stuff about Texas, nor do I even post about them often so I have no clue where that claim is coming from. I actually respect the program a lot. However if I was a fan, I wouldn’t be haply with JE as my coach. I was simply stating my opinions, which I feel are pretty plausible. But they are just opinions. That’s all I was discussing. You’re the one who went all psycho and made this about Texas and Nebraska, because that’s so relevant to the discussion. I’ll be sure to ask you for permission before posting on threads moving forward though..didn’t know that was a requirement. Enjoy the offseason.
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Post by azsker on Dec 10, 2017 15:56:11 GMT -5
Amy Neal would beg to differ. She's actually the exception that proves the rule. She's talked about how difficult it was being labeled "undersized" and how she had to overcome that her whole way up the ladder. You'd would think that coaches would remember from one year to the next a player's attributes, but being big and tall is in your face 24/7, so they forget. She was so fun to watch. Very humble too. I ran in to her outside her hotel in Omaha after the championship match and congratulated her on a good season/career. Very nice. Enjoyed her tremendously.
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