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Post by volleycoachiq on Feb 22, 2018 11:52:13 GMT -5
I honestly think the intermission change is more about coaches who are tired of going into the break with a full head of steam, only to be lost after 10 minutes of sitting around. i think the big12 did away with the 10 minute intermission this past season (other please correct me if i'm wrong). instead we had the normal 3 minute break. was weird at first but then we got used to it. and i do agree with others that the amount of time spent on some challenges was downright absurd. I was at several Big12 matches and they did do away with the intermission period. It was nice to just watch volleyball and seemed more fair for the team that has momentum. A good coach can still use a shorter time period to adjust a game plan. It also allows the girls to still be warm and ready to go out the gate.
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Post by Northern lights on Feb 22, 2018 11:59:41 GMT -5
All those older faithful that crowd the stands at NCAA women's volleyball might not like losing 5 minutes of intermission. When your older you appreciate breaks.
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Post by Wiswell on Feb 22, 2018 12:15:01 GMT -5
Wait, so no more intermission? When am I gonna go to the bathroom and get more popcorn? Enhance the fan experience by having the fans sitting in their seats being blocked by the fans getting back to their seats when play has already started? Yeah, that's an enhancement. For some fans, it takes them nearly 10 minutes just to ARRIVE at the bathroom.
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Post by tomclen on Feb 22, 2018 12:15:45 GMT -5
This move to shorten (or virtually eliminate) the 'intermission' seems to me to be another concession to the TV networks. It makes their production job easier...no need for that switch to an in-studio 'update' and the pesky salaries they have to pay for the talent.
But for fans in the stands, this is just one more slap in the face.
They shortened the sets to 25. I've gotten used to that. But eliminating the intermission strikes me as another nod to our shortening attention spans.
Almost every major sporting event has a built-in break - baseball being the exception, but there are so many shorter breaks in the action it doesn't matter as much.
Even most concerts have an opening act followed by a 15 or 20 minute intermission.
Sorry, but I don't feel like driving an hour each way, paying to park, walk from car to arena (and back) and then have the entire 'experience' be a 3-set match that ends in 55 minutes.
Not. Worth. It.
Plus, if I'm the concession vendor at these arenas, I'm going to want out of my contract. The only people buying concessions will be those short-attention-span jackasses who have to get up every 12 minutes to get more Dippin' Dots and make two rows of fans miss several rallies while they get their sugar fix. It's usually people who, frankly, could use fewer calories to begin with.
The in-person college volleyball experience is great. But the NCAA seems to be constantly doing more and more to cater to TV, so that it's hardly worth the effort to attend.
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Post by Wiswell on Feb 22, 2018 12:26:25 GMT -5
This move to shorten (or virtually eliminate) the 'intermission' seems to me to be another concession to the TV networks. It makes their production job easier...no need for that switch to an in-studio 'update' and the pesky salaries they have to pay for the talent. But for fans in the stands, this is just one more slap in the face. They shortened the sets to 25. I've gotten used to that. But eliminating the intermission strikes me as another nod to our shortening attention spans. Almost every major sporting event has a built-in break - baseball being the exception, but there are so many shorter breaks in the action it doesn't matter as much. Even most concerts have an opening act followed by a 15 or 20 minute intermission. Sorry, but I don't feel like driving an hour each way, paying to park, walk from car to arena (and back) and then have the entire 'experience' be a 3-set match that ends in 55 minutes. Not. Worth. It. Plus, if I'm the concession vendor at these arenas, I'm going to want out of my contract. The only people buying concessions will be those short-attention-span jackasses who have to get up every 12 minutes to get more Dippin' Dots and make two rows of fans miss several rallies while they get their sugar fix. It's usually people who, frankly, could use fewer calories to begin with. The in-person college volleyball experience is great. But the NCAA seems to be constantly doing more and more to cater to TV, so that it's hardly worth the effort to attend. Think of the money universities will save by just having to build a facility with a court and no stands! But lots of cameras.
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Post by n00b on Feb 22, 2018 12:29:24 GMT -5
This move to shorten (or virtually eliminate) the 'intermission' seems to me to be another concession to the TV networks. It makes their production job easier...no need for that switch to an in-studio 'update' and the pesky salaries they have to pay for the talent. But for fans in the stands, this is just one more slap in the face. They shortened the sets to 25. I've gotten used to that. But eliminating the intermission strikes me as another nod to our shortening attention spans. Almost every major sporting event has a built-in break - baseball being the exception, but there are so many shorter breaks in the action it doesn't matter as much. Even most concerts have an opening act followed by a 15 or 20 minute intermission. Sorry, but I don't feel like driving an hour each way, paying to park, walk from car to arena (and back) and then have the entire 'experience' be a 3-set match that ends in 55 minutes. Not. Worth. It. Plus, if I'm the concession vendor at these arenas, I'm going to want out of my contract. The only people buying concessions will be those short-attention-span jackasses who have to get up every 12 minutes to get more Dippin' Dots and make two rows of fans miss several rallies while they get their sugar fix. It's usually people who, frankly, could use fewer calories to begin with. The in-person college volleyball experience is great. But the NCAA seems to be constantly doing more and more to cater to TV, so that it's hardly worth the effort to attend. You're in the extreme minority. Many schools lose a big chunk of students attending the game during the 10 minute intermission. One of the reasons for this change was to get them to stay.
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Post by mikegarrison on Feb 22, 2018 12:42:41 GMT -5
This move to shorten (or virtually eliminate) the 'intermission' seems to me to be another concession to the TV networks. It makes their production job easier...no need for that switch to an in-studio 'update' and the pesky salaries they have to pay for the talent. But for fans in the stands, this is just one more slap in the face. They shortened the sets to 25. I've gotten used to that. But eliminating the intermission strikes me as another nod to our shortening attention spans. Almost every major sporting event has a built-in break - baseball being the exception, but there are so many shorter breaks in the action it doesn't matter as much. Even most concerts have an opening act followed by a 15 or 20 minute intermission. Sorry, but I don't feel like driving an hour each way, paying to park, walk from car to arena (and back) and then have the entire 'experience' be a 3-set match that ends in 55 minutes. Not. Worth. It. Plus, if I'm the concession vendor at these arenas, I'm going to want out of my contract. The only people buying concessions will be those short-attention-span jackasses who have to get up every 12 minutes to get more Dippin' Dots and make two rows of fans miss several rallies while they get their sugar fix. It's usually people who, frankly, could use fewer calories to begin with. The in-person college volleyball experience is great. But the NCAA seems to be constantly doing more and more to cater to TV, so that it's hardly worth the effort to attend. You're in the extreme minority. Many schools lose a big chunk of students attending the game during the 10 minute intermission. One of the reasons for this change was to get them to stay. I call BS on this. Who watches two sets of VB in person and then leaves? I suppose if the match is terribly lopsided that might happen, but I have never been at a volleyball match where the student section evaporated at the intermission.
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Post by ndodge on Feb 22, 2018 13:03:11 GMT -5
The five minute intermission at the Pav at MN will suck. I only have one way into/out of my row, I am stuck next to a tunnel wall at the end of the row, it is not easy to get in and out of. The result at the Pav will be less concession revenue, and my guess is by quite a bit, but there will still be a lot more people coming back from concessions after play has resumed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 17:05:07 GMT -5
All those older faithful that crowd the stands at NCAA women's volleyball might not like losing 5 minutes of intermission. When your older you appreciate breaks. True, but it's already like this north of the border. Also, this means that teams would not be heading back to the team room between sets 2 and 3.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 17:07:49 GMT -5
Sorry, but I don't feel like driving an hour each way, paying to park, walk from car to arena (and back) and then have the entire 'experience' be a 3-set match that ends in 55 minutes. Not. Worth. It. This calls for double headers with men's volleyball! (I wish, but maybe someday when most schools have both MVB and WVB...)
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Post by James on Feb 22, 2018 22:01:45 GMT -5
SEC got rid of the intermission this past year too. Not a fan! Hate missing points when I have to head to the bathroom or get a drink. When my kids were younger they loved the games during the intermission. And why are we trying to shorten these games even further!
Maybe we just move the intermission to between the third and forth sets? Sweeps are shorter so the TV people are happy, but if a match is going to four or five sets the rest of us get a quick break.
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Post by tomclen on Feb 22, 2018 22:31:26 GMT -5
SEC got rid of the intermission this past year too. Not a fan! Hate missing points when I have to head to the bathroom or get a drink. When my kids were younger they loved the games during the intermission. And why are we trying to shorten these games even further! Maybe we just move the intermission to between the third and forth sets? Sweeps are shorter so the TV people are happy, but if a match is going to four or five sets the rest of us get a quick break. Your idea is a little better. But, why f--k with this at all? Did someone do a fan survey and find out that an overwhelming number of fans at matches hate the intermission? Did coaches lobby for this change? Do players hate the break? Do concession companies worry that we're eating too much overpriced junk food? This is one incredibly stupid move, IMO. And I wonder if this will be an even bigger advantage for home teams. I don't have supporting stats, only anecdotal hunches, but it seems that a visiting team, playing before a hostile crowd, often comes out flat...sometimes for an entire set or two. But it also seems like the visitors will frequently settle down and play better after the break. Plus, do we really need a significant rule change every single cotton-picking year? My guess is this is just bending over, again, for the TV.
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Post by Sorry Ass Sal on Feb 22, 2018 22:34:08 GMT -5
The 10-minute to 5-minute rule change will suck. Most of the diehard fans are elderly (or approaching) and have bladder issues. Also, need to visit the concession stand for their kids and grandkids. In fact, I would want a longer break between each set. Also, all the intermission entertainment, most of which involve audience contests for prizes, will be cut short if not eliminated altogether. And people need time during intermission to post their thoughts on VT. Three minutes must be provided for each team, so there would only be two minutes allowed for promos.
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Post by Sorry Ass Sal on Feb 22, 2018 22:43:32 GMT -5
Why don't they just allow the entire play to be reviewed to determine who actually won the point? I guess that's kind of what they're doing, but I'll explain. Team A touches the net when attempting to block, but no violation is called. Upon receipt of the ball, Team A's ensuing attack goes out of bounds, but a Team B block touch was not seen. Team A coach challenges the touch and wins the point. If the whole play was reviewed, Team B should be awarded the point based on Team A's net violation. Isn't the goal of replay to get the call right? Why place limits to not get that correct?
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Post by trollhunter on Feb 22, 2018 23:33:26 GMT -5
This move to shorten (or virtually eliminate) the 'intermission' seems to me to be another concession to the TV networks. It makes their production job easier...no need for that switch to an in-studio 'update' and the pesky salaries they have to pay for the talent. But for fans in the stands, this is just one more slap in the face. They shortened the sets to 25. I've gotten used to that. But eliminating the intermission strikes me as another nod to our shortening attention spans. Almost every major sporting event has a built-in break - baseball being the exception, but there are so many shorter breaks in the action it doesn't matter as much. Even most concerts have an opening act followed by a 15 or 20 minute intermission. Sorry, but I don't feel like driving an hour each way, paying to park, walk from car to arena (and back) and then have the entire 'experience' be a 3-set match that ends in 55 minutes. Not. Worth. It. Plus, if I'm the concession vendor at these arenas, I'm going to want out of my contract. The only people buying concessions will be those short-attention-span jackasses who have to get up every 12 minutes to get more Dippin' Dots and make two rows of fans miss several rallies while they get their sugar fix. It's usually people who, frankly, could use fewer calories to begin with. The in-person college volleyball experience is great. But the NCAA seems to be constantly doing more and more to cater to TV, so that it's hardly worth the effort to attend. I wish I could "like" this twice. +1
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