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Post by why on Oct 16, 2018 12:40:10 GMT -5
Why would you say that? ... but that is the problem when the offender is the owner. It would appear that you answered your own question. So I guess the question I still have is how do we remove sexual predators when they own a club?
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Post by trainermch on Oct 16, 2018 13:25:43 GMT -5
I think the article in the link backs up this claim. Twice a reference is made to "molestation," but the word "rape" is conveniently omitted/avoided. So they've already got the press on their side. Butler and wife will continue to find ways to deceive families and make lots of money while doing so. They have honed their skills over the years. Caveat Emptor! (And hide your kids)
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Post by azvb on Oct 16, 2018 13:45:32 GMT -5
It would appear that you answered your own question. So I guess the question I still have is how do we remove sexual predators when they own a club? Convince those working for RB he is scum? He wouldn’t have a club if he didn’t have coaches.
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Post by greenpier on Oct 16, 2018 15:38:44 GMT -5
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Post by McAdoooo on Oct 16, 2018 16:15:23 GMT -5
This club deserves to be exposed for even associating with scum such as the Butlers - what are the odds that EVERY parent/player at the club is even aware there's an "association" between the club and the Butlers? Should they be aware?
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Post by gobruins on Oct 17, 2018 10:37:30 GMT -5
So I guess the question I still have is how do we remove sexual predators when they own a club? Convince those working for RB he is scum? He wouldn’t have a club if he didn’t have coaches. There are a lot of scummy corporations in this country who have no problem finding employees. Because of, you know...a paycheck.
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Post by greenpier on Oct 17, 2018 11:05:59 GMT -5
Rick Butler lives on in the greed of others.
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Post by azvb on Oct 17, 2018 11:07:14 GMT -5
Convince those working for RB he is scum? He wouldn’t have a club if he didn’t have coaches. There are a lot of scummy corporations in this country who have no problem finding employees. Because of, you know...a paycheck. Curious-aren’t there plenty of jobs coaching club volleyball? There are in Arizona.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 17, 2018 11:22:18 GMT -5
There are a lot of scummy corporations in this country who have no problem finding employees. Because of, you know...a paycheck. Curious-aren’t there plenty of jobs coaching club volleyball? There are in Arizona. You lost me on this. Could you explain?
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Post by azvb on Oct 17, 2018 12:44:20 GMT -5
Curious-aren’t there plenty of jobs coaching club volleyball? There are in Arizona. You lost me on this. Could you explain? Go Bruins is saying people work for RB even though he’s scum because they need a paycheck. I am of the opinion club volleyball coaching jobs are not hard to find.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 17, 2018 12:49:04 GMT -5
You lost me on this. Could you explain? Go Bruins is saying people work for RB even though he’s scum because they need a paycheck. I am of the opinion club volleyball coaching jobs are not hard to find. Maybe some club volleyball coaching jobs pay a lot and some dont? People are not concerned about ethics if a good pay check is assured?
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Post by azvb on Oct 17, 2018 12:55:24 GMT -5
Go Bruins is saying people work for RB even though he’s scum because they need a paycheck. I am of the opinion club volleyball coaching jobs are not hard to find. Maybe some club volleyball coaching jobs pay a lot and some dont? People are not concerned about ethics if a good pay check is assured? It would be interesting to know what he pays his coaches. How much $ does it take to stay working for a child molester?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 13:30:27 GMT -5
MOST seriously: look, people! Reality Is that the Butlers will continue to infest the vb universe until they are too old to do so: and beyond. The Only Things that could have Really deterred them is if RB had been charged - plus convicted - before the statutes of limitations had run out; or, if a new time-frame were opened up re: reinvestigating these charges. RB Will NEVER Quit trying to weasel/ slither his slimy way through the proverbial cracks in our volleyball world. His ego Is WAY Too overriding for him to do otherwise. It ain't $ for him, it is his vanity! THAT being said, & the fact that this child rapist is all/ only about power and control, Anything which "hits" him is a good thing!
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Post by greenpier on Oct 17, 2018 16:22:53 GMT -5
Why would you say that? Disney has banned him from even being on the premises and JVA is considering the same thing at their events. I think the only place he will be is in his own building. If he didn't own a facility, he would have been ousted many years ago. Just look what the other clubs did with coaches who were accused of the same thing, they all removed the offenders just like Sports Performance should have done but that is the problem when the offender is the owner. It appears Butler still has his hand in many pies in the financial sense and nothing can be done about it.
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Post by why on Oct 17, 2018 17:42:14 GMT -5
Why would you say that? Disney has banned him from even being on the premises and JVA is considering the same thing at their events. I think the only place he will be is in his own building. If he didn't own a facility, he would have been ousted many years ago. Just look what the other clubs did with coaches who were accused of the same thing, they all removed the offenders just like Sports Performance should have done but that is the problem when the offender is the owner. It appears Butler still has his hand in many pies in the financial sense and nothing can be done about it. It is also true that he is losing money on his GLPL vs prior years as a majority of teams have moved over to WCPL. Since he can no longer coach in AAU, USAV, or JVA events he is also limited on where he can coach which might limit who might want to play for a coach that cannot participate at tournaments. A former SP coach, shared that tryouts numbers were down for the first time in many years. Things can always be done. I heard that same thing being said about Larry Nassar.
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