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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 17:46:27 GMT -5
Watch him pair up with his buddies at the AVCA and work foreign coaching clinics. If the AVCA ever trotted him out there stateside, I would stop going to convention. I’d still pay membership dues so I could nominate my athletes for stuff, but that’s about it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 19:01:40 GMT -5
It appears Butler still has his hand in many pies in the financial sense and nothing can be done about it. It is also true that he is losing money on his GLPL vs prior years as a majority of teams have moved over to WCPL. Since he can no longer coach in AAU, USAV, or JVA events he is also limited on where he can coach which might limit who might want to play for a coach that cannot participate at tournaments. A former SP coach, shared that tryouts numbers were down for the first time in many years. Things can always be done. I heard that same thing being said about Larry Nassar. To expand on my previous post 4 above this one, the money Is NOT What Is going to affect RB/ Cheryl. They have TONS. But ANY "bite" hits his ego, too. That's the thing!
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Post by greenpier on Oct 17, 2018 19:11:20 GMT -5
It appears Butler still has his hand in many pies in the financial sense and nothing can be done about it. Things can always be done. I heard that same thing being said about Larry Nassar. Its all about money for him. He will bankroll things.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 19:13:00 GMT -5
Things can always be done. I heard that same thing being said about Larry Nassar. Its all about money for him. He will bankroll things.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 17, 2018 19:50:09 GMT -5
Since he can no longer coach in AAU, USAV, or JVA events he is also limited on where he can coach which might limit who might want to play for a coach that cannot participate at tournaments. He could become a ref.
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Post by trainermch on Oct 17, 2018 21:18:44 GMT -5
Since he can no longer coach in AAU, USAV, or JVA events he is also limited on where he can coach which might limit who might want to play for a coach that cannot participate at tournaments. He could become a ref. Ooh ooh ooh a line judge. And the players can take turns plowing into him going for saves that never existed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 21:25:34 GMT -5
Ooh ooh ooh a line judge. And the players can take turns plowing into him going for saves that never existed. Actually, he should switch over to track + field: become a discus/ javelin/ shot put catcher.
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Post by why on Oct 18, 2018 14:02:27 GMT -5
Watch him pair up with his buddies at the AVCA and work foreign coaching clinics. If the AVCA ever trotted him out there stateside, I would stop going to convention. I’d still pay membership dues so I could nominate my athletes for stuff, but that’s about it. I know that Kathy invited him to present at the convention a couple years ago until she received push back from a number of people. I don't understand why the AVCA partnered with him in the first place as Kathy was well aware of his past.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 14:08:12 GMT -5
Watch him pair up with his buddies at the AVCA and work foreign coaching clinics. If the AVCA ever trotted him out there stateside, I would stop going to convention. I’d still pay membership dues so I could nominate my athletes for stuff, but that’s about it. I know that Kathy invited him to present at the convention a couple years ago until she received push back from a number of people. I don't understand why the AVCA partnered with him in the first place as Kathy was well aware of his past. The AVCA's silence on this matter is disturbing. When the JVA first came out a few us voiced our displeasure with Rick's involvement. Those concerns fell on deaf ears.
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 18, 2018 14:32:54 GMT -5
This, among other reasons, is why I never joined AVCA.
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Post by why on Oct 19, 2018 12:46:29 GMT -5
MOST seriously: look, people! Reality Is that the Butlers will continue to infest the vb universe until they are too old to do so: and beyond. The Only Things that could have Really deterred them is if RB had been charged - plus convicted - before the statutes of limitations had run out; or, if a new time-frame were opened up re: reinvestigating these charges. RB Will NEVER Quit trying to weasel/ slither his slimy way through the proverbial cracks in our volleyball world. His ego Is WAY Too overriding for him to do otherwise. It ain't $ for him, it is his vanity! THAT being said, & the fact that this child rapist is all/ only about power and control, Anything which "hits" him is a good thing! Cheryl wrote how much the mortgage was on the building in her "Our Story" so when everyone stops giving them $ they will have to leave. I read an article on Darvo and think it fits to a tee. dynamic.uoregon.edu/jjf/defineDARVO.htmlHere is the opening paragraph for anyone who would rather not click on a link. Short Definition of DARVO DARVO refers to a reaction perpetrators of wrong doing, particularly sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. DARVO stands for "Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender." The perpetrator or offender may Deny the behavior, Attack the individual doing the confronting, and Reverse the roles of Victim and Offender such that the perpetrator assumes the victim role and turns the true victim -- or the whistle blower -- into an alleged offender. This occurs, for instance, when an actually guilty perpetrator assumes the role of "falsely accused" and attacks the accuser's credibility and blames the accuser of being the perpetrator of a false accusation.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 19, 2018 12:48:54 GMT -5
MOST seriously: look, people! Reality Is that the Butlers will continue to infest the vb universe until they are too old to do so: and beyond. The Only Things that could have Really deterred them is if RB had been charged - plus convicted - before the statutes of limitations had run out; or, if a new time-frame were opened up re: reinvestigating these charges. RB Will NEVER Quit trying to weasel/ slither his slimy way through the proverbial cracks in our volleyball world. His ego Is WAY Too overriding for him to do otherwise. It ain't $ for him, it is his vanity! THAT being said, & the fact that this child rapist is all/ only about power and control, Anything which "hits" him is a good thing! Cheryl wrote how much the mortgage was on the building in her "Our Story" so when everyone stops giving them $ they will have to leave. I read an article on Darvo and think it fits to a tee. dynamic.uoregon.edu/jjf/defineDARVO.htmlHere is the opening paragraph for anyone who would rather not click on a link. Short Definition of DARVO DARVO refers to a reaction perpetrators of wrong doing, particularly sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. DARVO stands for "Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender." The perpetrator or offender may Deny the behavior, Attack the individual doing the confronting, and Reverse the roles of Victim and Offender such that the perpetrator assumes the victim role and turns the true victim -- or the whistle blower -- into an alleged offender. This occurs, for instance, when an actually guilty perpetrator assumes the role of "falsely accused" and attacks the accuser's credibility and blames the accuser of being the perpetrator of a false accusation. You and I are on the same page.......................it is all about money.
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Post by why on Oct 23, 2018 12:00:58 GMT -5
Cheryl wrote how much the mortgage was on the building in her "Our Story" so when everyone stops giving them $ they will have to leave. I read an article on Darvo and think it fits to a tee. dynamic.uoregon.edu/jjf/defineDARVO.htmlHere is the opening paragraph for anyone who would rather not click on a link. Short Definition of DARVO DARVO refers to a reaction perpetrators of wrong doing, particularly sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. DARVO stands for "Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender." The perpetrator or offender may Deny the behavior, Attack the individual doing the confronting, and Reverse the roles of Victim and Offender such that the perpetrator assumes the victim role and turns the true victim -- or the whistle blower -- into an alleged offender. This occurs, for instance, when an actually guilty perpetrator assumes the role of "falsely accused" and attacks the accuser's credibility and blames the accuser of being the perpetrator of a false accusation. You and I are on the same page.......................it is all about money. As the numbers of the WCPL continue to grow to 370 teams, I noticed a price increase on the GLPL. Maybe a price increase and banned coach are a bad combination?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 12:19:01 GMT -5
You and I are on the same page.......................it is all about money. As the numbers of the WCPL continue to grow to 370 teams, I noticed a price increase on the GLPL. Maybe a price increase and banned coach are a bad combination? Again, it isn't about $ per se', it is about vanity, pride, ego & banal arrogance. The Butlers' economic situation is 'made' for the rest of their lives. Every "dig" to his former stature, power, façade, plus control will be a deflation of his own self-importance, self-value/worth and self-esteem. Could NOT happen To A More Deserving individual, RB.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 23, 2018 12:19:04 GMT -5
As the numbers of the WCPL continue to grow to 370 teams, I noticed a price increase on the GLPL. Maybe a price increase and banned coach are a bad combination? Greed knows no bounds. Perception becomes reality.
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