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Post by timduckforlife on Jun 10, 2018 17:29:15 GMT -5
and Patch (for the most part) has been serving the ball in
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Post by Gilmoy on Jun 10, 2018 17:30:14 GMT -5
14-16 ... (other screen, nyah nyah) 17-20 Tc2 17-20 Anderson js, Schmitt right line dug over (E.Shoji diving), Schmitt overpasses wide right? 17-21 Anderson js long. USA challenge ball on ... out by 1.0 mm 18-21 Vigrass jf bad pass (DeFalco), Patch right standing set free, Maar left cross tool right 19-21 Vigrass jf, Patch right line outside-in bounce. s/K.Shoji/Holt/ 19-22 K.Shoji js, Maar left sharp cross not dug 20-22 Schmitt js, Smith 1 centerline bounce 20-23 Patch js, Schmitt D line tool right but foot fault 20-24 Patch js tape over, Van Berkel 1 turn left wide 20-25 = 1-3. Canada +23-13-19-20 USA
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Post by akbar on Jun 10, 2018 17:31:22 GMT -5
Patch 18 Anderson 15 Holt 15 Smith 9 Russell 8 Defalco 5
Anderson and Russell played in almost every set to carry the workload.
Bravo USA!
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Post by Gilmoy on Jun 10, 2018 17:32:55 GMT -5
you gotta wonder about Hawkeye's accuracy when they show replays that show the ball on the line. Oh, that ball wasn't all the way down yet. Still spherical, not maximally oblate. They froze the wrong frame. Need a programmer to search by image analysis, not a human fat-fingering
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Post by timduckforlife on Jun 10, 2018 17:36:16 GMT -5
you gotta wonder about Hawkeye's accuracy when they show replays that show the ball on the line. Oh, that ball wasn't all the way down yet. Still spherical, not maximally oblate. They froze the wrong frame. Need a programmer to search by image analysis, not a human fat-fingering maybe, just it sure looked like there was compression on the ball. I've also seen extremely clear replays of Hawkeye's errors too. I definitely don't trust the system yet, esp for volleyball.
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Post by timduckforlife on Jun 10, 2018 17:36:36 GMT -5
And Patch with an awkward post match interview....
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Post by akbar on Jun 10, 2018 17:37:07 GMT -5
important win!
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Post by Gilmoy on Jun 10, 2018 17:37:10 GMT -5
Hah, the post-match interview is piped live over the stadium PA system. Patch is totally playing to the young crowd, dropping cultural references and time-sensitive in-jokes.
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Post by VB48 on Jun 10, 2018 17:47:05 GMT -5
So, if Patch can play like this, and get better from here, can Matt move to the left with Taylor?
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Post by bruinsgold on Jun 10, 2018 19:27:32 GMT -5
So, if Patch can play like this, and get better from here, can Matt move to the left with Taylor? Curious questions to everyone, because I've read this whole "move Matt to the left" idea proposed several times, which I don't quite understand. With three good, young Olympic OHs on the team and one unquestionably future legacy traveling with the team every summer, it doesn't seem like Matt needs to be our starting OH. I see what we stand to lose by shifting Matt over there, which see definitely outweighs what we stand to gain as long as we have Sander, Russell, Jaeschke, and DeFalco available. So... (1) Who is our backup OPP if Matt is on the left? We've ruled out Ensing; we definitely don't need Clark holding that position. Patch is improved but he's not elite. So if he has a bad game, who do you pull off the bench? Not Matt, unless you want to wait until the next set, shift him back to OPP and bring in another OH. (2) Which guy gets left behind? Obviously not Sander. Do you tell DeFalco, "Sorry, see you next quad"? Jaeschke, who has steadily improved and is one of our better back row defenders? Patch's improvement is great. It's nice to see a player we thought wasn't going to continue with the sport begin to flourish. But Matt gives you so many tangibles as a OH converted to OPP that Patch might not ever attain. Matt's consistency as a server, blocker, back row attacker, out of system attacker, and being able to "clean up the garbage" while being a 4th passer when needed benefits the team more as an OPP than sidelining great OHs because Matt can pretty much terminate anywhere/passes perfectly.
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Post by timduckforlife on Jun 10, 2018 19:41:19 GMT -5
So, if Patch can play like this, and get better from here, can Matt move to the left with Taylor? Curious questions to everyone, because I've read this whole "move Matt to the left" idea proposed several times, which I don't quite understand. With three good, young Olympic OHs on the team and one unquestionably future legacy traveling with the team every summer, it doesn't seem like Matt needs to be our starting OH. I see what we stand to lose by shifting Matt over there, which see definitely outweighs what we stand to gain as long as we have Sander, Russell, Jaeschke, and DeFalco available. So... (1) Who is our backup OPP if Matt is on the left? We've ruled out Ensing; we definitely don't need Clark holding that position. Patch is improved but he's not elite. So if he has a bad game, who do you pull off the bench? Not Matt, unless you want to wait until the next set, shift him back to OPP and bring in another OH. (2) Which guy gets left behind? Obviously not Sander. Do you tell DeFalco, "Sorry, see you next quad"? Jaeschke, who has steadily improved and is one of our better back row defenders? Patch's improvement is great. It's nice to see a player we thought wasn't going to continue with the sport begin to flourish. But Matt gives you so many tangibles as a OH converted to OPP that Patch might not ever attain. Matt's consistency as a server, blocker, back row attacker, out of system attacker, and being able to "clean up the garbage" while being a 4th passer when needed benefits the team more as an OPP than sidelining great OHs because Matt can pretty much terminate anywhere/passes perfectly. Counterpoint though: our best lineup will likely have Anderson and Sander as l1 and l2 with Patch at OPP. Patch has shown, at least this VNL, that he's a world class hitter. A serve that's improving, at least from the start of this vnl thru todays match. As well as improvement on blocking and defense. And i will agree that, esp with the last 2 is where he needs the most improvement. I think Anderson is likely going to be done after this next Olympics and since he's a natural left, it makes sense. The odd man out, if you get another OPP is likely Langlois. Though I've said it since last Olympics, he's still my dark horse for making the team. He still has more growth potential than anyone else on the team. At least imo l.
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Post by VB48 on Jun 10, 2018 20:48:51 GMT -5
If Anderson stays on the right, then we have 5 OH's for 4 spots. If Anderson moves to the left, and another right is brought in, we have 6 OH's for 4 spots. I believe it is more likely that we will take 4 OH's other than Anderson, and that Anderson will spend time on both the left and the right at the Olympics. Jaeschke, DeFalco and Langlois are the bottom 3 OH's, so at least 1, and possibly 2 of them, will be left off the Olympic roster.
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Post by akbar on Jun 10, 2018 22:14:36 GMT -5
Matt is NOT moving to the left on a permanent basis for this quad. Having Patch demonstrate growth is huge for the team and give much needed depth and options.
We do not have another Opp ready for this yet.
The best team is not with Ben at Opposite yet and it is pretty plain to see. Ben is not developed enough in his blocking, first ball touch and he is not a world class hitter yet.
Matt's hand work on his swings is incredibly developed and technical. He had learned to find the floor yes but makes a living tooling the %*$# out of blocks and finding high flat seams. That can get you out of trouble when the passing goes awry. His defense was very good today.
Passing for pretty the whole match was really good for the US and this allowed for Christenson to isolate hitters and run the middle a lot. This most certainly helped all our hitters success.
Ben is still way to bent on the highlight reel over the top and avoiding the block to find open floor. Ben is really good in doses for us now and adds such an explosive element. His leftside attack is really good as SHhhh pointed out and we give him a higher ball to go and get it. In RO1 he has that ball always in front of him and consistently hits that at 12'. There is much to work with and he is very important to this team's success but for the next 2 years I dont see much of a change.
Russell , Sander and Jaeschke are elite players.
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Post by Reach on Jun 10, 2018 23:01:16 GMT -5
Let's not forget that the only reason Matt went to the right last quad was because Stanley retired and nobody was good enough to play there for Team USA.. not even close. Unfortuenly Matt is the best Opp and Outside team USA has.... Did ya'll see his passing? He does so many things well. Has he ever played Opposite on a professional team?
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Post by memorybankrupt on Jun 10, 2018 23:54:30 GMT -5
Matt will be OPP this quad, and moonlighting as an OH. Patch will probably be the other OPP. No need to consider anyone else (like Clark or Ensing). If Matt plays OH it will depend if Patch can get good enough, and probably if Russell isn't solid enough at OH. I'm assuming Sander will be good at OH. But I like that this team has different looks.
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