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Post by wahinefan on Aug 23, 2019 23:59:01 GMT -5
Going by what occurred in the Green & White match, I believe this will be the starting lineup against USD.
OH1 - Jolie Rasmussen OH2 - Brooke Van Sickle MH - Tiffany Westerberg MB - Amber Igiede OPP - Hanna Hellvig S - Norene Iosia L - Kyra Hanawahine DS - Riley Wagoner
This is only my opinion. We will see if I am correct. The only returning player that will be starting is Norene Iosia. Of the other returning players the only one I can see contributing in some way is Rika Okino. Would not be surprised if Braelyn Akana has beaten out Skyler Williams for the backup Middle position. I can also see RAM starting with 1 setter, then switching to 2 setters, either within a match, or from match to match, depending on the opponent.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 24, 2019 0:01:14 GMT -5
I like what the coaches did — Controlled lineups with mostly changes at setter and MB (plus Van Sickle). I’m surprised Sibley and Ross (along with Rasmussen, of course) were able to hang against the likes of supposedly talented Hellvig and Westerberg.
I think they still aren’t sure which setter to start, which explains why they wanted to see how both teams clicked with both setters at the helm. Also, I think they’re giving Sibley and Ross every opportunity to make their case for starting over the freshmen. The stats should be revealing.
I’m surprised Wagoner didn’t make a big splash; that is, Cindy Luis didn’t single her out like some others as being noteworthy.
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Post by wahinefan on Aug 24, 2019 0:03:34 GMT -5
Do not know how many sets Krug played. Do know she did not play in Set 2, according to Cindy. Wondering if her knee is still giving her problems. Will not allow her to play an entire match, yet.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 24, 2019 0:04:12 GMT -5
Just from Cindy Luis’s descriptions and the set results with the controlled lineups, I thought Choy was the better setter.
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Post by wahinefan on Aug 24, 2019 0:09:15 GMT -5
I like what the coaches did — Controlled lineups with mostly changes at setter and MB (plus Van Sickle). I’m surprised Sibley and Ross (along with Rasmussen, of course) were able to hang against the likes of supposedly talented Hellvig and Westerberg. I think they still aren’t sure which setter to start, which explains why they wanted to see how both teams clicked with both setters at the helm. Also, I think they’re giving Sibley and Ross every opportunity to make their case for starting over the freshmen. The stats should be revealing. I’m surprised Wagoner didn’t make a big splash; that is, Cindy Luis didn’t single her out like some others as being noteworthy. Wagoner may not have made a big splash hitting wise, but she definitely made a big splash being the starting Libero on one of the teams. That tells me she is really pushing Kyra Hanawahine for the starting Libero position, and has beaten out Rika Okino for the DS spot.
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Post by gouci on Aug 24, 2019 0:15:33 GMT -5
Just wondering, for the scrimmage did they hire an officiating crew or did volunteers call the lines?
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 24, 2019 0:15:42 GMT -5
I like what the coaches did — Controlled lineups with mostly changes at setter and MB (plus Van Sickle). I’m surprised Sibley and Ross (along with Rasmussen, of course) were able to hang against the likes of supposedly talented Hellvig and Westerberg. I think they still aren’t sure which setter to start, which explains why they wanted to see how both teams clicked with both setters at the helm. Also, I think they’re giving Sibley and Ross every opportunity to make their case for starting over the freshmen. The stats should be revealing. I’m surprised Wagoner didn’t make a big splash; that is, Cindy Luis didn’t single her out like some others as being noteworthy. Wagoner may not have made a big splash hitting wise, but she definitely made a big splash being the starting Libero on one of the teams. That tells me she is really pushing Kyra Hanawahine for the starting Libero position, and has beaten out Rika Okino for the DS spot. It doesn't say that at all. It says that they made a spot for her because her potential is still unknown.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 24, 2019 0:23:32 GMT -5
It looks like the coaches planned out the lineups carefully of veterans vs. freshmen, with Iosia and Choy switching sides from set to set. They also moved Van Sickle, Krug, and Akana from team to team, but overall, the lineups were stable. Freshmen took sets 1 and 2, although these only went to 15, while veterans took sets 3 and 4, which went 15 and 25 respectively. Not sure about set 5. I was confused about the line-up for set 5 because I was assuming that it was the same line-up as set 4, but then it was cited that Iosia's team led 15-14, and then 21-15. At that point, Choy switched sides, and they closed the set out 25-15 behind Hellvig's serving, which means that Hanna started in set 5 on Iosia's team? Unless, Robyn did what she did in sets 1 and 2, and she simply switched Iosia and Choy. For set 5, I’m assuming it was still freshmen vs veterans w/ utility player Van Sickle moving between teams, but not sure. Based on Cindy Luis’s comment, in set 5, Iosia was on freshmen team in the beginning before Choy set the freshmen team to close it out. It’s disheartening that the Rasmussen/Sibley/Ross lineup couldn’t beat the Hellvig/Westerberg/Wagoner lineup (not sure whether Akana or Van Sickle played OH here), but also psyched that Hellvig/Westerberg smoked the veterans. LOL!
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 24, 2019 1:05:04 GMT -5
If you go with the tradition that season opening scrimmages across the country are predominantly Starters vs. B team, then you can conclude that the Wahine starting lineup is, essentially:
S - Iosia OH - Rasmussen, Sibley, Ross M - Williams, Krug L- Okino DS - Hanawahine
However, I don’t think anyone believes this will be the case.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 24, 2019 1:11:31 GMT -5
I wonder if Cindy Luis will answer Brandon’s question about what she thinks will be the starting lineup based on her observations. However, as soon as I read Brandon’s question, my first thought was an image of Cindy Luis driving home in her car.
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Post by kaipono on Aug 24, 2019 1:15:00 GMT -5
I was confused about the line-up for set 5 because I was assuming that it was the same line-up as set 4, but then it was cited that Iosia's team led 15-14, and then 21-15. At that point, Choy switched sides, and they closed the set out 25-15 behind Hellvig's serving, which means that Hanna started in set 5 on Iosia's team? Unless, Robyn did what she did in sets 1 and 2, and she simply switched Iosia and Choy. For set 5, I’m assuming it was still freshmen vs veterans w/ utility player Van Sickle moving between teams, but not sure. Based on Cindy Luis’s comment, in set 5, Iosia was on freshmen team in the beginning before Choy set the freshmen team to close it out. It’s disheartening that the Rasmussen/Sibley/Ross lineup couldn’t beat the Hellvig/Westerberg/Wagoner lineup (not sure whether Akana or Van Sickle played OH here), but also psyched that Hellvig/Westerberg smoked the veterans. LOL! Gotcha. I wasn't sure if it was still freshmen vs veterans because in the 4th set, Igiede played on the side with more of the veterans, while Krug played on the side of the freshmen. Also, I'm not sure if Westerberg played at either OH or MB in the last set, and maybe Akana played the other position? Or maybe Van Sickle played OH, and Westerberg was back in the middle. Either way, it's great to hear that the freshmen are competing well!
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 24, 2019 1:27:48 GMT -5
Yeah, not sure what happened in the 5th set.
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Post by noblesol on Aug 24, 2019 1:30:30 GMT -5
The set score results were kind of meaningless. It was a scrimmage and there were a lot of players switching sides and positions. No one was tracking rotation errors.
All of the freshmen at times looked impressive, but in different roles. Wagoner started as a libero and was easily the best of them in the backrow, but the other freshmen are ahead of her in the front row. Westerberg looked good enough to start at either MH or Opp. Hellvig was good enough in the backrow to start at six rotation OH2, or Opp. Akana played well at OH, Opp, and MH, and seemed to get stronger the longer they played; probably doesn't start but could easily see the court if someone gets the hook. Igiede was strong at MB, still a little raw, but way ahead of where I thought she'd be, and she is a contender to start.
At setter, I don't think we will see Iosia hit at Opp this year. Just too many good hitters on this team. Iosia was serving bullets, but Choy's serve was good too. Iosia I thought had a better connection with the pins, Choy with the middles, but it might have been more a function of the passing. I think Iosia gets the nod, she's the stronger of the two in the front row, but Choy at times looked damned good. Don't know who will have the most minutes when the season is over. It's an interesting battle and the team benefits.
BVS, Ross, Sibley, all looked good. BVS looked good most of the scrimmage, especially early, but maybe faded a bit toward the end. Both Ross and Sibley have improved all around. At times Ross looked liked the best option at OH2, at times BVS. Sibley is definitely in the hunt to play more time at Opp this year, and she could start.
JR I thought was pacing herself a bit, nursing some taped fingers, and she got called out for it at one point when she didn't attack an out of system ball. I think the obvious OH1 still. She'll benefit from end of double days.
Okino might be ahead of Hanawahine at libero, it's close. Okino is taped up, looks to be nursing a groin is my guess, but doesn't appear to slow her down. Wagoner at libero is a possibility. Gong looks ready to pick up where she left off last year.
Williams looks a bit more offensive minded, and was connecting on the slide. Krug is still in a brace, but is moving good at the net and was effective.
After 90 minutes, I still don't know who will start next Friday. It is very competitive. The freshman can play, and at least a couple of them could start.
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Post by kaipono on Aug 24, 2019 1:44:18 GMT -5
Some facts from the Green-White scrimmage just by looking at the sets, scores, and line-ups:
- When setting for their respective teams, Choy set her team for 84 points and Iosia set her team for 85 points. - Because I have no idea who played for what team in the 5th set, Akana, Van Sickle, and Igiede was on the winning team for three sets out of the first four sets. Almost every other player in the first four sets won two sets, except for Hanawahine, who only won one set. - Wagoner won both of her sets when she played Libero/DS for her team, but depending on the line-up for the 5th set, she lost every set where she played OH. Also, maybe it was an oversight by Cindy, but she noted that she saw impressive hits from every freshman, except for Wagoner. - If you were to count the 5th set, Hellvig would be on the winning team for three out of five sets. She ended the 5th set on a 4 point scoring run, so maybe it is indicative of a solid serve?
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 24, 2019 1:45:47 GMT -5
The set score results were kind of meaningless. It was a scrimmage and there were a lot of players switching sides and positions. No one was tracking rotation errors. All of the freshmen at times looked impressive, but in different roles. Wagoner started as a libero and was easily the best of them in the backrow, but the other freshmen are ahead of her in the front row. Westerberg looked good enough to start at either MH or Opp. Hellvig was good enough in the backrow to start at six rotation OH2, or Opp. Akana played well at OH, Opp, and MH, and seemed to get stronger the longer they played; probably doesn't start but could easily see the court if someone gets the hook. Igiede was strong at MB, still a little raw, but way ahead of where I thought she'd be, and she is a contender to start. At setter, I don't think we will see Iosia hit at Opp this year. Just too many good hitters on this team. Iosia was serving bullets, but Choy's serve was good too. Iosia I thought had a better connection with the pins, Choy with the middles, but it might have been more a function of the passing. I think Iosia gets the nod, she's the stronger of the two in the front row, but Choy at times looked damned good. Don't know who will have the most minutes when the season is over. It's an interesting battle and the team benefits. BVB, Ross, Sibley, all looked good. BVB looked good most of the scrimmage, especially early, but maybe faded a bit toward the end. Both Ross and Sibley have improved all around. At times Ross looked liked the best option at OH2, at times BVB. Sibley is definitely in the hunt to play more time at Opp this year, and she could start. JR I thought was pacing herself a bit, nursing some taped fingers, and she got called out for it at one point when she didn't attack an out of system ball. I think the obvious OH1 still. She'll benefit from end of double days. Okino might be ahead of Hanawahine at libero, it's close. Okino is taped up, looks to be nursing a groin is my guess, but doesn't appear to slow her down. Wagoner at libero is a possibility. Gong looks ready to pick up where she left off last year. Williams looks a bit more offensive minded, and was connecting on the slide. Krug is still in a brace, but is moving good at the net and was effective. After 90 minutes, I still don't know who will start next Friday. It is very competitive. The freshman can play, and at least a couple of them could start. Three surprises from your observations: 1. Wagoner is a contender at libero, 2. Okino is ahead of Hanawahine, and 3. Ross and Sibley are contenders to start. The rest were not surprising, especially Iosia better with OHs while Choy better with middles. Iosia has never looked good setting the middles in her career at UH.
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