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Post by beast on Jan 15, 2019 14:03:33 GMT -5
Another Wow!!!!! Thinking back to the JUCO Coach that jumped all the way to Div 1 that went to Texas Tech. And it didn't work, in fact it went even further south. Some said it was surprising and a few defended her saying, as usual, she's a great person, she will do great. Again, some really good males with high quality successful Div 1 experience not even talked to. And she talks about the support of the administration!!! Yo, she needs to read bews papers, check facts, talk to the ex coach, talk to people in Spartanburg.
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Post by beast on Jan 15, 2019 14:08:39 GMT -5
Of course a nice or great person. What does that have to do with that AD avoiding experienced successful D1 male coaches? As usual, we will see in 3-5 years.
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Post by ineedajob on Jan 15, 2019 14:23:58 GMT -5
beast: Are you saying that you know there were "experienced, successful, D1 male coaches" who applied to both USC Upstate and ETSU and were never contacted at all about the position?
If I recall correctly, I do agree with what you say about the lack of administration support from USC Upstate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 14:36:51 GMT -5
Another Wow!!!!! Thinking back to the JUCO Coach that jumped all the way to Div 1 that went to Texas Tech. And it didn't work, in fact it went even further south. Some said it was surprising and a few defended her saying, as usual, she's a great person, she will do great. Again, some really good males with high quality successful Div 1 experience not even talked to. And she talks about the support of the administration!!! Yo, she needs to read bews papers, check facts, talk to the ex coach, talk to people in Spartanburg. Being a JUCO coach isn't relevant. A whole bunch of JUCO coaches can recruit really well, especially where I live with Illinois Central, Lincolnland, and Parkland. The question is can that JUCO coach follow rules. Does the coach have the technical knowledge to succeed. Does the coach have relevant contacts. Sometimes its the administration that needs to dig deeper, not just the coach.
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Post by coachmom on Jan 15, 2019 14:44:22 GMT -5
I was wondering if Ronda would ever make the jump. Such an incredible coach.......successful everywhere she goes! Can't say enough about her. So excited for her and can't wait to see her be successful at the next level! I agree completely.
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Post by coachmom on Jan 15, 2019 14:57:58 GMT -5
Another Wow!!!!! Thinking back to the JUCO Coach that jumped all the way to Div 1 that went to Texas Tech. And it didn't work, in fact it went even further south. Some said it was surprising and a few defended her saying, as usual, she's a great person, she will do great. Again, some really good males with high quality successful Div 1 experience not even talked to. And she talks about the support of the administration!!! Yo, she needs to read bews papers, check facts, talk to the ex coach, talk to people in Spartanburg. Being a JUCO coach isn't relevant. A whole bunch of JUCO coaches can recruit really well, especially where I live with Illinois Central, Lincolnland, and Parkland. The question is can that JUCO coach follow rules. Does the coach have the technical knowledge to succeed. Does the coach have relevant contacts. Sometimes its the administration that needs to dig deeper, not just the coach. Being a JUCO coach isn’t relevant?! So you are upset because she coached JUCO and is a female? Her resume speaks for itself. I’m sure all the relevant contacts she has have great things to say about her technical knowledge, following rules, and ability to succeed at Div 1. I get where you are coming from, Trish Knight didn’t prove herself but that doesn’t mean no other female who has coached at the junior college level won’t succeed.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jan 15, 2019 15:17:53 GMT -5
Another Wow!!!!! Thinking back to the JUCO Coach that jumped all the way to Div 1 that went to Texas Tech. And it didn't work, in fact it went even further south. Some said it was surprising and a few defended her saying, as usual, she's a great person, she will do great. Again, some really good males with high quality successful Div 1 experience not even talked to. And she talks about the support of the administration!!! Yo, she needs to read bews papers, check facts, talk to the ex coach, talk to people in Spartanburg. Trish Knight. That's a data point of one. Just like Dave Shondell. High school coach to successful Big Ten coach. Or that guy who went from Kellogg in Michigan to University of Texas Austin by the name of Mick Haley.
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Post by vboldskool on Jan 15, 2019 15:17:54 GMT -5
Another Wow!!!!! Thinking back to the JUCO Coach that jumped all the way to Div 1 that went to Texas Tech. And it didn't work, in fact it went even further south. Some said it was surprising and a few defended her saying, as usual, she's a great person, she will do great. Again, some really good males with high quality successful Div 1 experience not even talked to. And she talks about the support of the administration!!! Yo, she needs to read bews papers, check facts, talk to the ex coach, talk to people in Spartanburg. Being a JUCO coach isn't relevant. A whole bunch of JUCO coaches can recruit really well, especially where I live with Illinois Central, Lincolnland, and Parkland. The question is can that JUCO coach follow rules. Does the coach have the technical knowledge to succeed. Does the coach have relevant contacts. Sometimes its the administration that needs to dig deeper, not just the coach. This Coach has the skills!
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Post by trainermch on Jan 15, 2019 15:29:29 GMT -5
Another Wow!!!!! Thinking back to the JUCO Coach that jumped all the way to Div 1 that went to Texas Tech. And it didn't work, in fact it went even further south. Some said it was surprising and a few defended her saying, as usual, she's a great person, she will do great. Again, some really good males with high quality successful Div 1 experience not even talked to. And she talks about the support of the administration!!! Yo, she needs to read bews papers, check facts, talk to the ex coach, talk to people in Spartanburg. Trish Knight. That's a data point of one. Just like Dave Shondell. High school coach to successful Big Ten coach. Or that guy who went from Kellogg in Michigan to University of Texas Austin by the name of Mick Haley. This is me giving you a big fat high five.
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Post by yourmom on Jan 15, 2019 15:30:07 GMT -5
Of course a nice or great person. What does that have to do with that AD avoiding experienced successful D1 male coaches? As usual, we will see in 3-5 years. I love when folks say that because I assume you were privy to the whole applicant pool, you were privy to those “successful D1 male coaches” interviews as well. These comments crack me up because there have been no not successful D1 males hired ever...
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Post by dexter on Jan 15, 2019 15:30:14 GMT -5
Another Wow!!!!! Thinking back to the JUCO Coach that jumped all the way to Div 1 that went to Texas Tech. And it didn't work, in fact it went even further south. Some said it was surprising and a few defended her saying, as usual, she's a great person, she will do great. Again, some really good males with high quality successful Div 1 experience not even talked to. And she talks about the support of the administration!!! Yo, she needs to read bews papers, check facts, talk to the ex coach, talk to people in Spartanburg. Being a JUCO coach isn't relevant. A whole bunch of JUCO coaches can recruit really well, especially where I live with Illinois Central, Lincolnland, and Parkland. The question is can that JUCO coach follow rules. Does the coach have the technical knowledge to succeed. Does the coach have relevant contacts. Sometimes its the administration that needs to dig deeper, not just the coach. Being a JUCO coach isn’t relevant?! So you are upset because she coached JUCO and is a female? Her resume speaks for itself. I’m sure all the relevant contacts she has have great things to say about her technical knowledge, following rules, and ability to succeed at Div 1. I get where you are coming from, Trish Knight didn’t prove herself but that doesn’t mean no other female who has coached at the junior college level won’t succeed. Agreed! First off, do NCAA coaches even follow their own rules? Technical knowledge is completely laughable as I have found many JC coaches to be better about teaching the technical game than any 4-year at any level. That is not a blanket statement, obviously many JC's suck, but many DI's do too. She averages over 30 wins per season and has been successful at every stop turning every program into a national contender. This Hall of Fame coach did all of that while having 6 kids including one with special needs. GTFO for anyone who even sniffs at the idea that this isn't a good hire. Ronda doesn't take jobs where she can't be successful. Being a JC coach gives her the experience of not having the support of other schools while still having to find a way to be successful. The "Successful" (and likely entitled) DI coaches people are talking about will do nothing but complain/blame failures on the resources and support they don't have. If you are a program with little resources compared to others, but want success do you really look to hire "successful" DI coaches who are used to having an open checkbook and personal assistants to take care of everything? Or do you hire someone with a pedigree of taking a nothing, with nothing, and turn it into something people talk about? Again, great hire and congrats and good luck to Ronda!
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Post by trainermch on Jan 15, 2019 15:37:29 GMT -5
Another Wow!!!!! Thinking back to the JUCO Coach that jumped all the way to Div 1 that went to Texas Tech. And it didn't work, in fact it went even further south. Some said it was surprising and a few defended her saying, as usual, she's a great person, she will do great. Again, some really good males with high quality successful Div 1 experience not even talked to. And she talks about the support of the administration!!! Yo, she needs to read bews papers, check facts, talk to the ex coach, talk to people in Spartanburg. Being a JUCO coach isn’t relevant?! So you are upset because she coached JUCO and is a female? Her resume speaks for itself. I’m sure all the relevant contacts she has have great things to say about her technical knowledge, following rules, and ability to succeed at Div 1. I get where you are coming from, Trish Knight didn’t prove herself but that doesn’t mean no other female who has coached at the junior college level won’t succeed. Agreed! First off, do NCAA coaches even follow their own rules? Technical knowledge is completely laughable as I have found many JC coaches to be better about teaching the technical game than any 4-year at any level. That is not a blanket statement, obviously many JC's suck, but many DI's do too. She averages over 30 wins per season and has been successful at every stop turning every program into a national contender. This Hall of Fame coach did all of that while having 6 kids including one with special needs. GTFO for anyone who even sniffs at the idea that this isn't a good hire. Ronda doesn't take jobs where she can't be successful. Being a JC coach gives her the experience of not having the support of other schools while still having to find a way to be successful. The "Successful" (and likely entitled) DI coaches people are talking about will do nothing but complain/blame failures on the resources and support they don't have. If you are a program with little resources compared to others, but want success do you really look to hire "successful" DI coaches who are used to having an open checkbook and personal assistants to take care of everything? Or do you hire someone with a pedigree of taking a nothing, with nothing, and turn it into something people talk about? Again, great hire and congrats and good luck to Ronda! Tuuuuuuushay!
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Post by setter1848 on Jan 15, 2019 16:11:56 GMT -5
Agreed! First off, do NCAA coaches even follow their own rules? Technical knowledge is completely laughable as I have found many JC coaches to be better about teaching the technical game than any 4-year at any level. That is not a blanket statement, obviously many JC's suck, but many DI's do too. She averages over 30 wins per season and has been successful at every stop turning every program into a national contender. This Hall of Fame coach did all of that while having 6 kids including one with special needs. GTFO for anyone who even sniffs at the idea that this isn't a good hire. Ronda doesn't take jobs where she can't be successful. Being a JC coach gives her the experience of not having the support of other schools while still having to find a way to be successful. The "Successful" (and likely entitled) DI coaches people are talking about will do nothing but complain/blame failures on the resources and support they don't have. If you are a program with little resources compared to others, but want success do you really look to hire "successful" DI coaches who are used to having an open checkbook and personal assistants to take care of everything? Or do you hire someone with a pedigree of taking a nothing, with nothing, and turn it into something people talk about? Again, great hire and congrats and good luck to Ronda! Tuuuuuuushay! The biggest difference from going from a successful DI program to a smaller DI program...regardless of gender...is budget and support. I have seen countless hires over the years where a coach gets their first HC job at a DI school and they end up failing and leaving after a few years because they are not used to working with less resources that they were used to at their previous program that was successful. Being that this coach is coming from JC in my mind is irrelevent, i'm sure the biggest factor will be, can she be successful with the level of support and resources given...
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Post by itsallrelative on Jan 15, 2019 16:19:52 GMT -5
Tuuuuuuushay! The biggest difference from going from a successful DI program to a smaller DI program...regardless of gender...is budget and support. I have seen countless hires over the years where a coach gets their first HC job at a DI school and they end up failing and leaving after a few years because they are not used to working with less resources that they were used to at their previous program that was successful. Being that this coach is coming from JC in my mind is irrelevent, i'm sure the biggest factor will be, can she be successful with the level of support and resources given... managing resources, and learning how and what to delegate to whom...
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Post by silverlining on Jan 15, 2019 16:31:59 GMT -5
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