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Post by ned3vball on Oct 13, 2018 19:37:10 GMT -5
We all know some of those Pool C bids are going to end up going to some undeserving teams in New England and NY Regions. Happens every year. Leaving teams like LaVerne out, unfortunately. Foeget about la Verne......................what about Chapman? They are neck and neck, Chapman won at home, they play at La Verne 10/26. Tough region to get noticed. For the daily update on the West region go to this web site - D3 West Region Blog
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Post by diiifan on Oct 14, 2018 10:49:52 GMT -5
Foeget about la Verne......................what about Chapman? They are neck and neck, Chapman won at home, they play at La Verne 10/26. Tough region to get noticed. For the daily update on the West region go to this web site - D3 West Region BlogThanks for the love "Ned". My site does cover the West Region in detail but I also publish national articles. This past week I also tried to fill out the NCAA Tournament field of 64 and I also publish a Top 25 weekly. www.d3vbwest.com
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Post by bigfan on Oct 16, 2018 11:04:14 GMT -5
it seems to me that Emory is over-rated
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Post by tmb on Oct 17, 2018 3:31:40 GMT -5
it seems to me that Emory is over-rated Seems like a tougher time to say this after wins over Chicago and Wash U last weekend. It seems like 10 years ago there was a top tier to d3 and probably 5 teams likely to compete for a championship but now it seems like there is a ton of parity.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 17, 2018 11:21:11 GMT -5
it seems to me that Emory is over-rated Seems like a tougher time to say this after wins over Chicago and Wash U last weekend. It seems like 10 years ago there was a top tier to d3 and probably 5 teams likely to compete for a championship but now it seems like there is a ton of parity. They have come back to the pack or many other teams have really improved. The emory gravy train is over.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Oct 17, 2018 19:35:33 GMT -5
Wittenberg swept out DePauw yesterday. ONU beat Heidelberg.
Pretty big trimatch this weekend with Otterbein, Muskingum and Thomas More all playing one another.
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Post by tmb on Oct 18, 2018 5:07:24 GMT -5
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Post by tmb on Oct 18, 2018 6:10:14 GMT -5
They are neck and neck, Chapman won at home, they play at La Verne 10/26. Tough region to get noticed. For the daily update on the West region go to this web site - D3 West Region BlogThanks for the love "Ned". My site does cover the West Region in detail but I also publish national articles. This past week I also tried to fill out the NCAA Tournament field of 64 and I also publish a Top 25 weekly. www.d3vbwest.comI just took a quick look through your article and the one that caught my eye in regional rankings was Colorado College being #6 in their region and #4 on the AVCA (coaches opinion) poll. Curious on your thoughts there. In MidAtlantic was surprised based on Pablo that CNU was ahead of Carnegie Mellon but see they had a head to head. Looking at CNU's schedule...why were the 3 matches at the Pikes Peak Challenge/Colorado College all cancelled? Were their weather issues then that CNU couldn't fly out? In New England, Wesleyan at 8 with four NEWMAC's ahead of them with lower pablo rankings (and Wheaton's being significantly lower) is curious. Springfield at 5 has more out of region losses and like Wesleyan, their only regional loss is (was) to Endicott rated lower than both. Is the NEWMAC schedule protecting the NEWMAC schools and giving them x ranked opponents? I am sure "ned" will have some New England thoughts! That's all I've got in a quick look and looking forward to seeing other's expanded on the rankings.
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Post by diiifan on Oct 18, 2018 10:43:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the love "Ned". My site does cover the West Region in detail but I also publish national articles. This past week I also tried to fill out the NCAA Tournament field of 64 and I also publish a Top 25 weekly. www.d3vbwest.comI just took a quick look through your article and the one that caught my eye in regional rankings was Colorado College being #6 in their region and #4 on the AVCA (coaches opinion) poll. Curious on your thoughts there. In MidAtlantic was surprised based on Pablo that CNU was ahead of Carnegie Mellon but see they had a head to head. Looking at CNU's schedule...why were the 3 matches at the Pikes Peak Challenge/Colorado College all cancelled? Were their weather issues then that CNU couldn't fly out? In New England, Wesleyan at 8 with four NEWMAC's ahead of them with lower pablo rankings (and Wheaton's being significantly lower) is curious. Springfield at 5 has more out of region losses and like Wesleyan, their only regional loss is (was) to Endicott rated lower than both. Is the NEWMAC schedule protecting the NEWMAC schools and giving them x ranked opponents? I am sure "ned" will have some New England thoughts! That's all I've got in a quick look and looking forward to seeing other's expanded on the rankings. Colorado College is a really good team. A team, if they can get fully healthy, have a chance to win it all. Their problem is that their schedule this season doesn't allow the RAC to quantify their success. They have only played one match against a West Region ranked team (PLU). When the RAC decided to push PLU to 8th, it allowed CC to be dropped. The other big issue with CC is their SOS (0.534). So, when doing comparisons in the West, the RAC saw that CC tied a lot of teams due only on their record. It appears the RAC may have valued SOS higher so CC was dropped. Classic example of the NCAA selection criteria not being enough to fully value a team. CNU had to cancel due to Hurricane Florence. They didn't fly out. This actually hurt Colorado College a lot for this go-around because they need wins against ranked opponents and they seldom lose at home. I haven't looked at the New England Region, yet. If you are saying that the larger regions (New England specifically) manipulate their lower ranked teams to protect the teams they think they can get at-large bids then wouldn't you do it in the same place? I don't agree with it, I think it happens and the fix is to equal out the ranked teams in each region. And/Or start looking into the teams that make up the ranked wins rather then look at percentage of wins. There is a reason that New England always gets more teams into the tournament than they should (Clark in 2016 and Babson in 2017 are two recent examples). New York is also having more success in the last few years, which is mind numbing.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 18, 2018 11:33:58 GMT -5
In New England, Wesleyan at 8 with four NEWMAC's ahead of them with lower pablo rankings (and Wheaton's being significantly lower) is curious. Springfield at 5 has more out of region losses and like Wesleyan, their only regional loss is (was) to Endicott rated lower than both. Is the NEWMAC schedule protecting the NEWMAC schools and giving them x ranked opponents? I am sure "ned" will have some New England thoughts! I really like Wessleyan and I agree with you on all points. They are not ranked properly.
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Post by 4cornervb on Oct 19, 2018 8:02:05 GMT -5
We all know some of those Pool C bids are going to end up going to some undeserving teams in New England and NY Regions. Happens every year. Leaving teams like LaVerne out, unfortunately. I am feeling a shutout for NY this year. After Ithaca There is not much going on. Next weekend is a big NESCAC vs NEWMAC head to head showdown. After that a few schools should be in position for consideration. Tufts went out and tried and failed, Wesleyan and Bowdoin have already clinched the #1 and #2 seeds in the tournament, whoever doesn't win is probably in line for a bid if they play well next weekend in non-conference play. For the NEWMAC, MIT has played no one, going 1-3 against Pablo top 100. One of those teams was Springfield who went to the Stockton tournament and lost to the 2 good teams they played, Stockton and Cabrini. Wellesley is again playing no one out of region. Babson has played no one D3 wise, and went 1-3 in a D2 tournament, what the heck was that about? The wildcard for the NEWMAC is the way coach Long from Springfield has ruled the committee with an iron fist (too dramatic?) the last 2 years and brought home the bids for the NEWMAC. You called on that last take...Coach Long has thoroughly manipulated the first regional rankings to get 6 NEWMAC team in . A total joke that WPI (Pablo 83) and Coast Guard (Pablo 123) are in over Tufts (42) and Middlebury (60). Hopefully this is her last year in the rotation and we get a responsible steward for the New Enhland Region.
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Post by 4cornervb on Oct 19, 2018 8:04:13 GMT -5
In New England, Wesleyan at 8 with four NEWMAC's ahead of them with lower pablo rankings (and Wheaton's being significantly lower) is curious. Springfield at 5 has more out of region losses and like Wesleyan, their only regional loss is (was) to Endicott rated lower than both. Is the NEWMAC schedule protecting the NEWMAC schools and giving them x ranked opponents? I am sure "ned" will have some New England thoughts! I really like Wessleyan and I agree with you on all points. They are not ranked properly.
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Post by 4cornervb on Oct 19, 2018 8:14:33 GMT -5
I really like Wessleyan and I agree with you on all points. They are not ranked properly. Wesleyan and Johnson and Wales are the only two teams from New England to go out of region and beat ranked teams in the past two seasons. Wesleyan only has two teams ranked over 150 in the Pablo on their schedule that aren't in their conference. MIT has 11...And the rest of the NEWMAC isn't any better..
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Post by tmb on Oct 19, 2018 9:13:30 GMT -5
Wesleyan and Johnson and Wales are the only two teams from New England to go out of region and beat ranked teams in the past two seasons. Wesleyan only has two teams ranked over 150 in the Pablo on their schedule that aren't in their conference. MIT has 11...And the rest of the NEWMAC isn't any better.. It looks like the NEWMAC may not have sent a team to the Elite 8 since...? so maybe they should schedule more to be prepared for the regional final. It's tough to find past ncaa brackets but highest rated New England team in the past few year of pablo have been... 17 JWU 3 16 JWU 32 15 Amherst 23 14 Williams 28 13 Williams 32 12 Bowdoin 42 11 Bowdoin 19 10 Umass Boston 20 09 Williams 14 08 Williams 15 07 MIT 31 06 Coast Guard 24 05 MIT 49 04 Williams 16
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