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UCLA
Nov 27, 2018 23:01:32 GMT -5
Post by greenpier on Nov 27, 2018 23:01:32 GMT -5
There is a guy on 247 message board that has harped for the last 3 or 4 years that UCLA not having a certain amount of Black girls on the team has hurt them. Would there be any legs in that? Probably a VT poster too. LMAO
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UCLA
Nov 28, 2018 14:02:30 GMT -5
Post by italianmattd on Nov 28, 2018 14:02:30 GMT -5
I think it would be interesting to require your athletic team to mirror the demographics of the student population. All the top schools in the nation would field predominantly Asian athletes! For example, the single highest ethnic group at UCLA is Asian/Pacific Islander at 31.6 % and then it's White people at 26.1% and then Hispanic at 21.3%. There should be more Asians on Mike Sealy's team than any other group! Of course, most Asian girls are 4'11 - 5'8". You might get lucky and find a 6'2" like Lexi Sun but they are few and far between. And the tall ones don't go into athletics. U C Lots of Asians University of Cute Little Asians
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UCLA
Nov 28, 2018 14:36:56 GMT -5
Post by azvb on Nov 28, 2018 14:36:56 GMT -5
I think it would be interesting to require your athletic team to mirror the demographics of the student population. All the top schools in the nation would field predominantly Asian athletes! For example, the single highest ethnic group at UCLA is Asian/Pacific Islander at 31.6 % and then it's White people at 26.1% and then Hispanic at 21.3%. There should be more Asians on Mike Sealy's team than any other group! Of course, most Asian girls are 4'11 - 5'8". You might get lucky and find a 6'2" like Lexi Sun but they are few and far between. And the tall ones don't go into athletics. So, follow the example of BYU? 😉 😀
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UCLA
Nov 28, 2018 15:40:31 GMT -5
Post by baytree on Nov 28, 2018 15:40:31 GMT -5
A quick tally of Southern California counties (Santa Barbara, Ventura, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Diego) shows the black population is about 5.3%, so 5.2% at UCLA shouldn't be a big surprise. Then why doesn't UCLA get more hispanic players? The only one I can think of is Carmona and she was from Florida. There was Aquino from Brazil but, she's not hispanic (that I know of) and again, not from LA. There are probably others . Please chime in if you know of them but they're nowhere close to being even 1/4 of the team. I don't think that a team has to be completely representative of the main recruiting area's (or the school's) population but when your school is in a large metro area that's 45-50% hispanic and you have no hispanic players (or 1), I wonder what's going on. It seems like maybe UCLA isn't looking at that many players or surely they'd find some hispanic players in the LA area. I'd think they'd get walk-ons if nothing else.
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UCLA
Nov 28, 2018 15:42:52 GMT -5
Post by ay2013 on Nov 28, 2018 15:42:52 GMT -5
A quick tally of Southern California counties (Santa Barbara, Ventura, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Diego) shows the black population is about 5.3%, so 5.2% at UCLA shouldn't be a big surprise. Then why doesn't UCLA get more hispanic players? The only one I can think of is Carmona and she was from Florida. There was Aquino from Brazil but, she's not hispanic (that I know of) and again, not from LA. There are probably others . Please chime in if you know of them) but they're nowhere close to being even 1/4 of the team. I don't think that a team has to be completely representative of the main recruiting area's (or the school's) population but when your school is in a large metro area that's 45-50% hispanic and you have no hispanic players (or 1), I wonder what's going on. It seems like maybe UCLA isn't looking at that many players or surely they'd find some hispanic players in the LA area. I'd think he'd get walk-ons if nothing else. How many senior top 100 senior aces have been Hispanic in the last 5 years? I’d wager not many at all.
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Post by tomclen on Nov 28, 2018 15:43:28 GMT -5
This thread has taken a turn onto "Someone's About To Say Something Extremely Inappropriate" Boulevard.
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UCLA
Nov 28, 2018 15:47:47 GMT -5
Post by baytree on Nov 28, 2018 15:47:47 GMT -5
Then why doesn't UCLA get more hispanic players? The only one I can think of is Carmona and she was from Florida. There was Aquino from Brazil but, she's not hispanic (that I know of) and again, not from LA. There are probably others . Please chime in if you know of them) but they're nowhere close to being even 1/4 of the team. I don't think that a team has to be completely representative of the main recruiting area's (or the school's) population but when your school is in a large metro area that's 45-50% hispanic and you have no hispanic players (or 1), I wonder what's going on. It seems like maybe UCLA isn't looking at that many players or surely they'd find some hispanic players in the LA area. I'd think he'd get walk-ons if nothing else. How many senior top 100 senior aces have been Hispanic in the last 5 years? I’d wager not many at all. I understand that. It's one reason that I mentioned walk-ons. But IMO UCLA should try to reach out to communities and help develop volleyball players. The more kids playing volleyball, the better for later recruiting. Is that going on?
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Post by greenpier on Nov 28, 2018 15:48:35 GMT -5
I think it would be interesting to require your athletic team to mirror the demographics of the student population. All the top schools in the nation would field predominantly Asian athletes! For example, the single highest ethnic group at UCLA is Asian/Pacific Islander at 31.6 % and then it's White people at 26.1% and then Hispanic at 21.3%. There should be more Asians on Mike Sealy's team than any other group! Of course, most Asian girls are 4'11 - 5'8". You might get lucky and find a 6'2" like Lexi Sun but they are few and far between. And the tall ones don't go into athletics. So, follow the example of BYU? 😉 😀 You mean 24-25 year old married moms?
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 28, 2018 15:51:08 GMT -5
How many senior top 100 senior aces have been Hispanic in the last 5 years? I’d wager not many at all. I understand that. It's one reason that I mentioned walk-ons. But IMO UCLA should try to reach out to communities and help develop volleyball players. The more kids playing volleyball, the better for later recruiting. Is that going on? No offense but that seems like a lot of effort for Sealy and Co just to MAYBE get a few more wins each year and look more diverse doing it. Sealy isn’t paid enough relative to la salaries to coach UCLA volleyball while simultaneously trying to convince the larger Hispanic community in the SoCal basin to play volleyball for the .001% chance they’d get a scholarship to play for UCLA in college.
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UCLA
Nov 28, 2018 15:56:49 GMT -5
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Post by fetchin on Nov 28, 2018 15:56:49 GMT -5
So, follow the example of BYU? 😉 😀 You mean 24-25 year old married moms? Do the female athletes go on missions? Thought it was mostly their male athletic teams that had 24-25 year olds.
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UCLA
Nov 28, 2018 15:57:20 GMT -5
Post by baytree on Nov 28, 2018 15:57:20 GMT -5
I understand that. It's one reason that I mentioned walk-ons. But IMO UCLA should try to reach out to communities and help develop volleyball players. The more kids playing volleyball, the better for later recruiting. Is that going on? No offense but that seems like a lot of effort for Sealy and Co just to MAYBE get a few more wins each year and look more diverse doing it. The idea isn't to "look more diverse". It's to try to encourage the growth of volleyball in the LA area in communities where it's not popular. I'm not suggesting that they devote 10% of their resources to it but it seems to me that most well-funded volleyball programs should be trying to grow the game as a small part of their mission. Call it long-term investment or giving back or whatever you want. Representation is important. If a young vb player sees no Latinas on UCLA's team, year after year, or a young black kid sees no blacks, you get the message that it's not for you, even if you have potential.
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UCLA
Nov 28, 2018 16:05:05 GMT -5
Post by azvb on Nov 28, 2018 16:05:05 GMT -5
So, follow the example of BYU? 😉 😀 You mean 24-25 year old married moms? That quote would work for the men’s team if you say dads rather than moms.
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UCLA
Nov 28, 2018 16:11:51 GMT -5
Post by azvb on Nov 28, 2018 16:11:51 GMT -5
You mean 24-25 year old married moms? Do the female athletes go on missions? Thought it was mostly their male athletic teams that had 24-25 year olds. It’s pretty rare. I can think of only one that left while still having eligibility. Men can go when they’re 18, so many leave right out of high school. Quite a few get married during their eligibity years. The whole no pre marital sex thing results in younger-than-the-norm marriages. My senior year our middle blocker was pregnant.
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Nov 28, 2018 16:15:43 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 16:15:43 GMT -5
Do the female athletes go on missions? Thought it was mostly their male athletic teams that had 24-25 year olds. It’s pretty rare. I can think of only one that left while still having eligibility. Men can go when they’re 18, so many leave right out of high school. Quite a few get married during their eligibity years. The whole no pre marital sex thing results in younger-than-the-norm marriages. My senior year our middle blocker was pregnant. Did you notice because she was netting more than usual?
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Nov 28, 2018 16:23:25 GMT -5
Post by azvb on Nov 28, 2018 16:23:25 GMT -5
It’s pretty rare. I can think of only one that left while still having eligibility. Men can go when they’re 18, so many leave right out of high school. Quite a few get married during their eligibity years. The whole no pre marital sex thing results in younger-than-the-norm marriages. My senior year our middle blocker was pregnant. Did you notice because she was netting more than usual? Haha. Tall people don’t look pregnant as early as us vertically challenged. She was only about 3 months along.
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