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Post by uwvbfan on Oct 22, 2019 12:10:30 GMT -5
Okay, at 22-20 in set 4 of the Illinois match, Rettke gets the kill to make it 23-20, then lifts her left foot and massages it a bit. After that it appeared she was hurting a bit. I didn't see anything unusual on that point or the preceding ones to indicate what might have happened. Reading Sheffield's body language in the presser, I don't think its minor, but we'll see, particular if he does any line up shuffling this weekend (Hart to the M1, Hilley hitting in the 2-hitter rotations). When she landed for that last hit, it looked like her heel met the floor sooner than expected and she jammed it a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 12:16:33 GMT -5
Okay, at 22-20 in set 4 of the Illinois match, Rettke gets the kill to make it 23-20, then lifts her left foot and massages it a bit. After that it appeared she was hurting a bit. I didn't see anything unusual on that point or the preceding ones to indicate what might have happened. Reading Sheffield's body language in the presser, I don't think its minor, but we'll see, particular if he does any line up shuffling this weekend (Hart to the M1, Hilley hitting in the 2-hitter rotations). If that is the play where something was tweaked, I still would say this doesn't appear to be a long-term thing. Or, it at least appears she can play through it. She had a monster 5th set afterall. But, nobody has ever confused me with a doctor
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 22, 2019 12:23:03 GMT -5
What also may have happened is that she aggravated a pre-existing problem. That said, there has been no indication of such an issue previously.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Oct 22, 2019 13:02:33 GMT -5
Okay, at 22-20 in set 4 of the Illinois match, Rettke gets the kill to make it 23-20, then lifts her left foot and massages it a bit. After that it appeared she was hurting a bit. I didn't see anything unusual on that point or the preceding ones to indicate what might have happened. Reading Sheffield's body language in the presser, I don't think its minor, but we'll see, particular if he does any line up shuffling this weekend (Hart to the M1, Hilley hitting in the 2-hitter rotations). If that is the play where something was tweaked, I still would say this doesn't appear to be a long-term thing. Or, it at least appears she can play through it. She had a monster 5th set afterall. But, nobody has ever confused me with a doctor I love the intrigue of amateur injury diagnosis on VT! Someday there will be a new thread with a poll:
VOTE NOW
- Heel bruise
- Sprained ankle
- Foot bone
- Depressed
- Upset/Angry
- Calm acceptance
- Will play the next match
- Sit out 2 weeks
- only against the Gophers in Minneapolis
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Post by wiscvball on Oct 22, 2019 13:15:47 GMT -5
Okay, at 22-20 in set 4 of the Illinois match, Rettke gets the kill to make it 23-20, then lifts her left foot and massages it a bit. After that it appeared she was hurting a bit. I didn't see anything unusual on that point or the preceding ones to indicate what might have happened. Reading Sheffield's body language in the presser, I don't think its minor, but we'll see, particular if he does any line up shuffling this weekend (Hart to the M1, Hilley hitting in the 2-hitter rotations). I missed that... I did notice in the 5th set, during her service run, there was a point where it looked like she kind of stepped awkwardly on her approach and her foot dragged a bit. At first, I think she might have thought she was going to foot fault and reacted with an awkward move. In hindsight, maybe she had already tweaked something and it was an outcome of that. Either way, I was more nervous after the post-NU match press conference than I was by his Monday conference. He seemed a bit more "playful" regarding her injury, not wanting to give away too much to opposing scouts, playing dumb a bit. I wouldn't be shocked if she sits Friday, but is available if they need her. Then she plays on Saturday. After this weekend, they have 4 matches where they probably don't need her to play and could shut her down for a week or so if she needs rest. I also really like Shanahan and I think the rest of the team is more than capable of stepping up if needed to replace Rettke's game.
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 22, 2019 14:27:01 GMT -5
The Michigan match is on Sunday. That may end up being helpful.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Oct 22, 2019 14:32:25 GMT -5
I'm hoping it's minor. My guess is she rests against Michigan State and then plays against Michigan if we need her. Michigan and Maryland could get dicey, but theoretically we could handle the next two weeks without her. Maybe. I hope.
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Post by vbstan123 on Oct 22, 2019 15:31:56 GMT -5
Okay, at 22-20 in set 4 of the Illinois match, Rettke gets the kill to make it 23-20, then lifts her left foot and massages it a bit. After that it appeared she was hurting a bit. I didn't see anything unusual on that point or the preceding ones to indicate what might have happened. Reading Sheffield's body language in the presser, I don't think its minor, but we'll see, particular if he does any line up shuffling this weekend (Hart to the M1, Hilley hitting in the 2-hitter rotations). I missed that... I did notice in the 5th set, during her service run, there was a point where it looked like she kind of stepped awkwardly on her approach and her foot dragged a bit. At first, I think she might have thought she was going to foot fault and reacted with an awkward move. In hindsight, maybe she had already tweaked something and it was an outcome of that. Either way, I was more nervous after the post-NU match press conference than I was by his Monday conference. He seemed a bit more "playful" regarding her injury, not wanting to give away too much to opposing scouts, playing dumb a bit. I wouldn't be shocked if she sits Friday, but is available if they need her. Then she plays on Saturday. After this weekend, they have 4 matches where they probably don't need her to play and could shut her down for a week or so if she needs rest. I also really like Shanahan and I think the rest of the team is more than capable of stepping up if needed to replace Rettke's game. Ya Sheffields press conference was quite light-hearted which gives me hope its minor (even thought that is his normal personality). The good thing about this schedule is this "break", meaning a few non top 20 teams lol, where there is time for Rettke to rest. Im sure the staff wanted her to hold on for the Illinois game and then they were going to let her rest as Shanahan looked quite prepared to jump in. I would argue they have 6 games where they could rest Rettke, the toughest being the Michigan game that I think Wisconsin could still win handily. TBH id be surprised to see Rettke is out for long as its obvious she loves being out there so its just a matter of how long the coaching staff will keep the beast in the cage. Shanahan filling in literally gives me no worries as I think she would start on a majority of top 25 teams right now.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Oct 22, 2019 15:46:07 GMT -5
I think people are completely underrating how much Rettke being out is going to hurt this team.
Not just missing Rettke offense and defense, but what it allows the pin hitters to do, etc'
Not to mention her serve.
I believe we go 0-2 this weekend
And if we happen to beat Mich St, then we for sure need her vs Michigan.
If she is really "injured" and not just hurt. Then shut her down (and any other players with nagging issues)for couple weeks....make the tournament unseeded and wreck some teams tournament.
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Post by vbstan123 on Oct 22, 2019 15:56:51 GMT -5
I think people are completely underrating how much Rettke being out is going to hurt this team. Not just missing Rettke offense and defense, but what it allows the pin hitters to do, etc' Not to mention her serve. I believe we go 0-2 this weekend And if we happen to beat Mich St, then we for sure need her vs Michigan. If she is really "injured" and not just hurt. Then shut her down (and any other players with nagging issues)for couple weeks....make the tournament unseeded and wreck some teams tournament. Her impact is obviously invaluable in every phase of the game. However, the rotations where she's been on the bench while Hart is playing they have still looked very strong. I think as long as Wisconsin is able to side out steadily while Shanahan is in it will be a Wisconsin victory. In the end this is the best thing for all the players, similar to whats happening at Stanford right now. The star player is hurt, so everyone is going to have to figure out how to work without her. Crazy to think this is the first time we won't b seeing Dana in 3 years
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 22, 2019 15:57:32 GMT -5
I think people are completely underrating how much Rettke being out is going to hurt this team. Not just missing Rettke offense and defense, but what it allows the pin hitters to do, etc' Not to mention her serve. I believe we go 0-2 this weekend And if we happen to beat Mich St, then we for sure need her vs Michigan. I would agree if it were last year. This year I don't think UW lives or dies by Rettke. That's no discredit to her -- it's a credit to how well the rest of the team is doing and how creditable her replacement looked. It took a while for the team to get comfortable against NW, but they did get better as the match wore on. They are still a top 20 team without Dana. Remember, there are quite a few top recruits on the floor - Haggerty, Hilley, Loberg, Hart. Dodge, Clark and Ashburn are all senior aces as well.
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 22, 2019 16:03:10 GMT -5
BTW. That's no discredit to Michigan or MSU. I think the former especially is a good team and would have given the badgers a match even with Rettke. It will be a tough match with or without her, as it was last year.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Oct 22, 2019 16:09:07 GMT -5
Look at these crazy conf only serving aces per set:
Ashburn - .43 Rettke - .40 Barnes - .39 Hilley - .29 Haggerty - .25 Clark - .14
In 2018 .34 aces per set was the 3rd highest in BIG
Also we are very low error for the amount of Aces. 53 Aces/ 59 Service Aces
Not to mention the numerous serves that have resulted in over passes for Kills
I can remember 2 Clark serves at the end of set 2 with the score in the 20's that resulted in kills off over passes.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Oct 22, 2019 16:17:52 GMT -5
2018 Offense - 1.26 Aces per Set Gave up - 1.04 Aces per Set
2019 Offense - 1.89 Aces per Set Gave up - .61 Aces per Set
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Post by Wiswell on Oct 22, 2019 16:51:40 GMT -5
Further, I think if she is out for the foreseeable future, or even just a weekend, I think the team will be really motivated and rally around the challenge. If they are going in with the poor pity us attitude like some people on this board are, for sure they will not win. Again the mid season version of Hart is far better than the early season version of Hart, and that's a big factor.
Nobody is going to say we won't miss a 2x AA on the floor. But everyone is going to have to play at their peak. Finally, if she is not intending to play this weekend, with the lack of a Wednesday matchup the team has all week, not one day, to practice the current lineup.
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