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Post by blackiechan1999 on Dec 11, 2019 15:04:15 GMT -5
This was very eye opening, I never knew she was battling an injury her sophomore year.
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Post by Longhorn20 on Dec 11, 2019 15:06:06 GMT -5
For sure. I recall you provided volleymetrics for how Petersen performed on Friday. Not sure how that compares to her season long numbers.
As for Autumn, my biggest concern would be her having to serve the entire match as a staring Libero. Although she had zero service errors against UCSB, most of us on here who have followed her career at Texas the last few seasons know how much of a struggle serving has been for her. We just can't afford to have our starting Libero be a serving liability, giving free points to the opponent, and preventing our offense from getting into a good scoring run/rhythm.
Well, since you asked (sort of) I just looked... Sydney's season average passing grade is 2.17. Given that 2.2+ is considered good and 2.4+ is all American, we'll say that's solid (Autumn is at 2.18). Against UCSB she actually didn't pass a 1.6. She passed 1.43. That's simply not good enough to win a match in the tournament (and was a big reason they nearly lost). Elliott won't allow a repeat. Regarding serving, their error percentages this year aren't actually that dissimilar. 7.8 for Petersen and 9.1 for Rounsaville. But Aumtumn has only served 22 times this year. You're quite correct that last time she was starting (2017) she had an error rate of 16.8 which is FAR too high for a serve that isn't that tough even when it does go in. But maybe she's corrected that. Regardless, Sydney MUST play better or she simply can't be on the floor. And for what it's worth, I expect her to. You are a joy to discuss with and are welcome on the Texas thread anytime. You are great about being real without being hateful.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 11, 2019 15:08:17 GMT -5
My question is who is in the Libero Jersey friday Duuuh! Khat Bell
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 15:09:21 GMT -5
Hah, that's nice. I'm rapidly accruing haters because I have the temerity to use actual evidence when refuting popular (but false) VT narratives. Nice to know not everyone wants to burn me as a heretic! I like your contributions also. I have to say that some of your detractors remind me of some of the people pushing back on advanced stats in baseball, but worse. Instead of being a bit skeptical of WAR as a be-all, end-all, it was like they didn't even want to consider something fairly basic like OPS+. Well I appreciate you guys saying that. Truth is analytics are used in every single facet of coaching. Every single touch by every single player is coded on volleymetrics. They are synced with the game film and the assistant coaches leave notes for each player on the film, when there is something to praise or correct. I expected more members here to be affiliated with programs and have VM logins but if they don't I'm always happy to share data, where relevant. So feel free to tag me, and you guys horns1 Longhorn20.
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Post by eotexas5 on Dec 11, 2019 15:10:25 GMT -5
I'm hoping this was just a bad night for Sydney. We don't know how practice went this week but I'm hoping that she comes out on this weekend with a vengeance! I know her volleyball IQ is high, especially as a coaches' daughter. We believe in you Syd!
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Post by eotexas5 on Dec 11, 2019 15:11:37 GMT -5
I'm hoping this was just a bad night for Sydney. We don't know how practice went this week but I'm hoping that she comes out on this weekend with a vengeance! I know her volleyball IQ is high, especially as a coaches' daughter. We believe in you Syd! Plus, since UNI is no longer in the tournament, I'm sure it'll be nice for her if her family is able to come down to Austin for the matches! I'm sure that'll be extra motivation.
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 11, 2019 15:15:57 GMT -5
For sure. I recall you provided volleymetrics for how Petersen performed on Friday. Not sure how that compares to her season long numbers.
As for Autumn, my biggest concern would be her having to serve the entire match as a staring Libero. Although she had zero service errors against UCSB, most of us on here who have followed her career at Texas the last few seasons know how much of a struggle serving has been for her. We just can't afford to have our starting Libero be a serving liability, giving free points to the opponent, and preventing our offense from getting into a good scoring run/rhythm.
Well, since you asked (sort of) I just looked... Sydney's season average passing grade is 2.17. Given that 2.2+ is considered good and 2.4+ is all American, we'll say that's solid (Autumn is at 2.18). Against UCSB she actually didn't pass a 1.6. She passed 1.43. That's simply not good enough to win a match in the tournament (and was a big reason they nearly lost). Elliott won't allow a repeat. Regarding serving, their error percentages this year aren't actually that dissimilar. 7.8 for Petersen and 9.1 for Rounsaville. But Aumtumn has only served 22 times this year. You're quite correct that last time she was starting (2017) she had an error rate of 16.8 which is FAR too high for a serve that isn't that tough even when it does go in. But maybe she's corrected that. Regardless, Sydney MUST play better or she simply can't be on the floor. And for what it's worth, I expect her to. Error rate isn't really a statistic vb folks use in isolation. It's couple with the service aces and a ratio is used to determine how frequently one gets an ace and one errors to balance the risk, reward of tough serving.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 15:24:48 GMT -5
Well, since you asked (sort of) I just looked... Sydney's season average passing grade is 2.17. Given that 2.2+ is considered good and 2.4+ is all American, we'll say that's solid (Autumn is at 2.18). Against UCSB she actually didn't pass a 1.6. She passed 1.43. That's simply not good enough to win a match in the tournament (and was a big reason they nearly lost). Elliott won't allow a repeat. Regarding serving, their error percentages this year aren't actually that dissimilar. 7.8 for Petersen and 9.1 for Rounsaville. But Aumtumn has only served 22 times this year. You're quite correct that last time she was starting (2017) she had an error rate of 16.8 which is FAR too high for a serve that isn't that tough even when it does go in. But maybe she's corrected that. Regardless, Sydney MUST play better or she simply can't be on the floor. And for what it's worth, I expect her to. Error rate isn't really a statistic vb folks use in isolation. It's couple with the service aces and a ratio is used to determine how frequently one gets an ace and one errors to balance the risk, reward of tough serving. Fully aware you can't take error rate in isolation as a true reflection of serve. But that's what horns1 asked for. And no, aces too are flawed because, as a coach, I really want my servers to get opponents out of system. For the record, neither aces much with ratios of 4.5% & 3.7% respectively. What we ACTUALLY use is the 'points won %' on each player's serve. I have those numbers for both Petersen and Rounsaville too if you're interested. Or you can keep trying to tell me how to evaluate players... 😂
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 11, 2019 15:40:56 GMT -5
Error rate isn't really a statistic vb folks use in isolation. It's couple with the service aces and a ratio is used to determine how frequently one gets an ace and one errors to balance the risk, reward of tough serving. Fully aware you can't take error rate in isolation as a true reflection of serve. But that's what horns1 asked for. And no, aces too are flawed because, as a coach, I really want my servers to get opponents out of system. For the record, neither aces much with ratios of 4.5% & 3.7% respectively. What we ACTUALLY use is the 'points won %' on each player's serve. I have those numbers for both Petersen and Rounsaville too if you're interested. Or you can keep trying to tell me how to evaluate players... 😂 Points won on serve is used, but I can guarantee every top coach knows what his players ace to error ratio is and it is used. Or, if you disagree or simply aren't aware, you can assert expertise where there is little.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 15:43:07 GMT -5
Fully aware you can't take error rate in isolation as a true reflection of serve. But that's what horns1 asked for. And no, aces too are flawed because, as a coach, I really want my servers to get opponents out of system. For the record, neither aces much with ratios of 4.5% & 3.7% respectively. What we ACTUALLY use is the 'points won %' on each player's serve. I have those numbers for both Petersen and Rounsaville too if you're interested. Or you can keep trying to tell me how to evaluate players... 😂 Points won on serve is used, but I can guarantee every top coach knows what his players ace to error ratio is and it is used. Or, if you disagree or simply aren't aware, you can assert expertise where there is little. I just told you the ace percentages for each player. It's below 5%, therefore can't tell you, me, or a coach much. But since you are still trying to educate me, how about sharing their points won % on each of their serves for me here and what it says for the comparison between the two? Or don't you have those numbers?
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Post by horns1 on Dec 11, 2019 15:49:56 GMT -5
Hah, that's nice. I'm rapidly accruing haters because I have the temerity to use actual evidence when refuting popular (but false) VT narratives. Nice to know not everyone wants to burn me as a heretic! I like your contributions also. I have to say that some of your detractors remind me of some of the people pushing back on advanced stats in baseball, but worse. Instead of being a bit skeptical of WAR as a be-all, end-all, it was like they didn't even want to consider something fairly basic like OPS+. If the masses see this, you basically just signed your own death warrant!
On second thought, you already did that over in the Underrated Coaches thread when you complimented Coach Elliott's in-match adjustments . . .
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 11, 2019 18:05:19 GMT -5
I like your contributions also. I have to say that some of your detractors remind me of some of the people pushing back on advanced stats in baseball, but worse. Instead of being a bit skeptical of WAR as a be-all, end-all, it was like they didn't even want to consider something fairly basic like OPS+. If the masses see this, you basically just signed your own death warrant!
On second thought, you already did that over in the Underrated Coaches thread when you complimented Coach Elliott's in-match adjustments . . .
Lol, yeah (actually, I think I complimented his adjustments in the game thread, not the underrated coaches thread, but same difference). And some people were also upset that I don't think the Khat Bell incident is that big of a deal and doubt Texas will get anything more than a slap on the wrist.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 11, 2019 20:43:16 GMT -5
Points won on serve is used, but I can guarantee every top coach knows what his players ace to error ratio is and it is used. Or, if you disagree or simply aren't aware, you can assert expertise where there is little. I just told you the ace percentages for each player. It's below 5%, therefore can't tell you, me, or a coach much. But since you are still trying to educate me, how about sharing their points won % on each of their serves for me here and what it says for the comparison between the two? Or don't you have those numbers? I like you.
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Post by trainermch on Dec 11, 2019 20:56:45 GMT -5
Y'all done gon sappier than the polite SEC Thread!
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 11, 2019 21:12:36 GMT -5
Y'all done gon sappier than the polite SEC Thread! Remember most of us have got some Southern blood in us also. We had the ancestors that were born in the South, but usually did something where they had to run off to Texas before the girl's daddy or the sheriff showed up.
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