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Post by ay2013 on Feb 23, 2019 1:15:55 GMT -5
Still it’s a bummer to not see names like Foecke, Maloney, Plummer, Hentz, Rettke, Stone, Jones-Perry. Is it possible for an athlete to get a direct invite to train with the NT? This is my first quad really following the sport all over (NCAA/NT/PRO).....so I’m curious. Not to slight ANY of the ladies on the list. I mean who was Kim Hill before she tried out for the NT? I’m still hopeful to see several players from the pro leagues get some invites to the NT. The national team can invite anyone they want for the respective teams they field, regardless if they show up to an open try out. Also, Kim Hill, before she tried out for the NT was a top 10 senior ace, WCC POY, and 1st team All American.....
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Post by ToddyJ on Feb 23, 2019 2:23:03 GMT -5
Still it’s a bummer to not see names like Foecke, Maloney, Plummer, Hentz, Rettke, Stone, Jones-Perry. Is it possible for an athlete to get a direct invite to train with the NT? This is my first quad really following the sport all over (NCAA/NT/PRO).....so I’m curious. Not to slight ANY of the ladies on the list. I mean who was Kim Hill before she tried out for the NT? I’m still hopeful to see several players from the pro leagues get some invites to the NT. The national team can invite anyone they want for the respective teams they field, regardless if they show up to an open try out. Also, Kim Hill, before she tried out for the NT was a top 10 senior ace, WCC POY, and 1st team All American..... Thanks for the info. Some on here have mentioned that Kim wasn’t really one of the superstars of that time so I was just furthering that thought process. I love Kim and think she is a vital cog in the USWNT system. I am glad to know that first bit of information though. I figured invited atheletes were a thing. I can’t wait to see who makes the cut!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 2:47:12 GMT -5
This is a fundraiser for USAV. Giving it any additional significance beyond that is a mistake.
Karch not knowing who Kelsey Robinson was prior to her transfer to Nebraska is not evidence that these tryouts are an important part of identifying talent; it's evidence that Karch had no idea what he was doing. He didn't even know who Carlini was until the tournament that year.
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Post by joetrinsey on Feb 23, 2019 10:40:59 GMT -5
Still it’s a bummer to not see names like Foecke, Maloney, Plummer, Hentz, Rettke, Stone, Jones-Perry. Is it possible for an athlete to get a direct invite to train with the NT? This is my first quad really following the sport all over (NCAA/NT/PRO).....so I’m curious. Not to slight ANY of the ladies on the list. I mean who was Kim Hill before she tried out for the NT? I’m still hopeful to see several players from the pro leagues get some invites to the NT. An athlete with collegiate eligibility cannot train with the NT unless she’s been at the tryout. It doesn’t have to be in the same year, so most (maybe all? Can’t remember 100%) of those players with eligibility could be invited to train. And if they are done their collegiate eligibility, there’s no restrictions. The tryout is mostly for the CNT programs. The idea that we didn’t know who Kim Hill was before the tryout is just marketing hype. C’mon, you think a staff with an LMU coach on it didn’t know who Kim Hill was? It was more that her coming to the tryout showed she was serious about commiting to indoor rather than beach. It did show that her time on the beach had really solidified her passing more than she showed in college. Keep in mind also that there’s lots of reasons players don’t come to these. Most commonly: nagging injuries or their team is already doing an international tour.
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Post by bkedane on Feb 23, 2019 13:10:09 GMT -5
Still it’s a bummer to not see names like Foecke, Maloney, Plummer, Hentz, Rettke, Stone, Jones-Perry. Is it possible for an athlete to get a direct invite to train with the NT? This is my first quad really following the sport all over (NCAA/NT/PRO).....so I’m curious. Not to slight ANY of the ladies on the list. I mean who was Kim Hill before she tried out for the NT? I’m still hopeful to see several players from the pro leagues get some invites to the NT. An athlete with collegiate eligibility cannot train with the NT unless she’s been at the tryout. It doesn’t have to be in the same year, so most (maybe all? Can’t remember 100%) of those players with eligibility could be invited to train. And if they are done their collegiate eligibility, there’s no restrictions. The tryout is mostly for the CNT programs. The idea that we didn’t know who Kim Hill was before the tryout is just marketing hype. C’mon, you think a staff with an LMU coach on it didn’t know who Kim Hill was? It was more that her coming to the tryout showed she was serious about commiting to indoor rather than beach. It did show that her time on the beach had really solidified her passing more than she showed in college. Keep in mind also that there’s lots of reasons players don’t come to these. Most commonly: nagging injuries or their team is already doing an international tour. What rule prevents a player with college eligibility from training with the national team without attending this or a previous tryout? Many players have done so in past cycles.
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Feb 23, 2019 13:52:11 GMT -5
This is a fundraiser for USAV. Giving it any additional significance beyond that is a mistake. Karch not knowing who Kelsey Robinson was prior to her transfer to Nebraska is not evidence that these tryouts are an important part of identifying talent; it's evidence that Karch had no idea what he was doing. He didn't even know who Carlini was until the tournament that year. Oh Boy. Karch bashing shows it's ugly head once again.
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Post by joetrinsey on Feb 23, 2019 18:52:50 GMT -5
An athlete with collegiate eligibility cannot train with the NT unless she’s been at the tryout. It doesn’t have to be in the same year, so most (maybe all? Can’t remember 100%) of those players with eligibility could be invited to train. And if they are done their collegiate eligibility, there’s no restrictions. The tryout is mostly for the CNT programs. The idea that we didn’t know who Kim Hill was before the tryout is just marketing hype. C’mon, you think a staff with an LMU coach on it didn’t know who Kim Hill was? It was more that her coming to the tryout showed she was serious about commiting to indoor rather than beach. It did show that her time on the beach had really solidified her passing more than she showed in college. Keep in mind also that there’s lots of reasons players don’t come to these. Most commonly: nagging injuries or their team is already doing an international tour. What rule prevents a player with college eligibility from training with the national team without attending this or a previous tryout? Many players have done so in past cycles. I believe it’s more that, in order for the tryout to be considered a tryout by NCAA rules, and thus for the schools to be able to pay for kids to go to it, then the NT can’t invite college players who haven’t been at a tryout.
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 23, 2019 19:18:32 GMT -5
What rule prevents a player with college eligibility from training with the national team without attending this or a previous tryout? Many players have done so in past cycles. I believe it’s more that, in order for the tryout to be considered a tryout by NCAA rules, and thus for the schools to be able to pay for kids to go to it, then the NT can’t invite college players who haven’t been at a tryout. I think this is incorrect. The NCAA rules don't attempt to define what a National Team (or related) tryout is or to define the manner of participation, but only to carve out exceptions related to participation in such events. If USAV has such a rule, it probably stems from the necessity for ensuring that the appropriate liability and/or permission waivers have been completed or submitted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 20:41:20 GMT -5
I believe it’s more that, in order for the tryout to be considered a tryout by NCAA rules, and thus for the schools to be able to pay for kids to go to it, then the NT can’t invite college players who haven’t been at a tryout. I think this is incorrect. The NCAA rules don't attempt to define what a National Team (or related) tryout is or to define the manner of participation, but only to carve out exceptions related to participation in such events. If USAV has such a rule, it probably stems from the necessity for ensuring that the appropriate liability and/or permission waivers have been completed or submitted. Several athletes even trained with the senior group without ever attending the open tryout in the same quad that Joe was a coach.
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Post by joetrinsey on Feb 23, 2019 22:31:39 GMT -5
I believe it’s more that, in order for the tryout to be considered a tryout by NCAA rules, and thus for the schools to be able to pay for kids to go to it, then the NT can’t invite college players who haven’t been at a tryout. I think this is incorrect. The NCAA rules don't attempt to define what a National Team (or related) tryout is or to define the manner of participation, but only to carve out exceptions related to participation in such events. If USAV has such a rule, it probably stems from the necessity for ensuring that the appropriate liability and/or permission waivers have been completed or submitted. Could be. I’m certainly not an expert on the NCAA rules.
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Post by stanfordvb on Feb 25, 2019 9:42:43 GMT -5
Wow. The roster is missing most of the top talent. I know some of it has to do with team trips and other conflicts, but last years roster had much more talent in it. If I remember everyone from reading, which I hope I did, only 1 first team AA trying out out in samedy??
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Post by ToddyJ on Feb 25, 2019 13:32:22 GMT -5
Wow. The roster is missing most of the top talent. I know some of it has to do with team trips and other conflicts, but last years roster had much more talent in it. If I remember everyone from reading, which I hope I did, only 1 first team AA trying out out in samedy?? I too wondered the same thing. A lot of big names missing.
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Post by vballfan17 on Feb 25, 2019 14:37:12 GMT -5
Anybody want to take a stab at who will be selected? (Based on what you've already seen from them in college.) Last year they selected 6 middles, 7 outsides, 4 oppos, 4 setters & 4 liberos for a total of 25 players.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Feb 25, 2019 15:34:33 GMT -5
No Baylor players either. I haven’t heard anything about a school trip over the summer but I would’ve expected Pressley, Fanning and Lockin to be there.
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Post by Badger13 on Feb 25, 2019 16:23:45 GMT -5
If we only made teams up with just BIG name players how would it go? Like some of the NBA teams not so well! Give these girls a chance they have earned it!! Just because they have not won the awards or on the high profile teams doesn't mean the talent isn't there. Some of these posters might be saying after these tryouts why isn't this girl on a better team than she's on. Being on a team that is a better fit for them is more important that going to a team that is not.I applaud athletes that won't let the name of the school influence their decision on where to attend. Just give them the opportunity maybe its their time to shine! Theres a coach in South Carolina that was given a chance to be a head coach without any experience a lot of people disagreed with Clemson's hire because he wasn't a BIG NAME Coach. Given the opportunity anything can happen.
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