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Post by ironhammer on Apr 11, 2019 19:20:51 GMT -5
Legacies may not be the majority of alumni children, but they do form a sizable chunk as the cnbc article says. Just as I am sure illegal means like admission by bribery is not the majority of total cases. But each of those case may still have taken the spot of an otherwise honest and worthy applicant. No, you missed my point a bit. The press screams 30% of the class is legacy!! Favoritism!! My point was: If you look at statistics, it might be the OPPOSITE of favoritism. 30% is 500-600 (max) students per year (the class size is small). There are 350,000 alumni. Assume they are equally distributed. That is about 8,000 at each age group. Not all have kids but not all that have kids only have ONE. So, that would also mean there are likely 6,000-9,000 applicants per year that could be kids of alumni. Grandkids makes it more. 500 / 8,000 = 1 in 16 chance of getting in. 2,200 (admitted each year, but 1650-1800 accept) / 40,000 applicants = 1 in 18 chance of getting in. That really does not sound like favoritism when you assume the legacy kids are likely richer and went to better schools than the general population applying. You are looking at it from an alumni's point of view on their chance of their kids getting in to Harvard, which is small, according to you. I am looking at the total composition of the freshmen class. The chance of each individual alumni landing their kid in Harvard may be small, but in aggregate terms, they end up as a third of the freshmen group, that ain't small.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 20:51:45 GMT -5
No, you missed my point a bit. The press screams 30% of the class is legacy!! Favoritism!! My point was: If you look at statistics, it might be the OPPOSITE of favoritism. 30% is 500-600 (max) students per year (the class size is small). There are 350,000 alumni. Assume they are equally distributed. That is about 8,000 at each age group. Not all have kids but not all that have kids only have ONE. So, that would also mean there are likely 6,000-9,000 applicants per year that could be kids of alumni. Grandkids makes it more. 500 / 8,000 = 1 in 16 chance of getting in. 2,200 (admitted each year, but 1650-1800 accept) / 40,000 applicants = 1 in 18 chance of getting in. That really does not sound like favoritism when you assume the legacy kids are likely richer and went to better schools than the general population applying. You are looking at it from an alumni's point of view on their chance of their kids getting in to Harvard, which is small, according to you. I am looking at the total composition of the freshmen class. The chance of each individual alumni landing their kid in Harvard may be small, but in aggregate terms, they end up as a third of the freshmen group, that ain't small. Okay. you can look at the numbers a different way then. 22-32% of EVERY YEAR's applicants are relatives of the 381,000 alumni. So, does it still seem strange to you that 30% of the class reflects 30% of the applicants?
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 11, 2019 21:47:57 GMT -5
Umm...why did @dumas delete his account? Also, right in the middle of a conversation?
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 11, 2019 22:19:12 GMT -5
Umm...why did @dumas delete his account? Also, right in the middle of a conversation? Good question. Was having an interest discussion. Then all of a sudden, he's gone. Did he accidentally delete his own account? That can happen I guess.
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Post by trainermch on Apr 11, 2019 22:20:17 GMT -5
Umm...why did @dumas delete his account? Also, right in the middle of a conversation? Good question. Was having an interest discussion. Then all of a sudden, he's gone. Did he accidentally delete his own account? That can happen I guess. I was thinking the same. Meant to delete a comment and deleted account.
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Post by Mocha on Apr 12, 2019 0:06:31 GMT -5
Good question. Was having an interest discussion. Then all of a sudden, he's gone. Did he accidentally delete his own account? That can happen I guess. I was thinking the same. Meant to delete a comment and deleted account. What a dumbass.
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 12, 2019 0:08:34 GMT -5
Maybe he's dead. I hope not. It could've been his last act before loss of consciousness. If so, what a way to think on your feet! I'm proud of him.
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Post by tomclen on Apr 12, 2019 8:32:15 GMT -5
Remember this folks, in Mick Halely's $2M lawsuit against USC, there was this statement from his attorney Christopher Ludmer:
Sure looks like there is a very clear and direct line you could draw from Haley's firing to Heinel's criminal enterprise which was right under the nose of the rookie AD.
To all those anti-Mick know-it-alls who proclaimed that Mick didn't know how to cooperate with the AD chain of command, maybe Haley didn't want to cooperate with what was obviously an effort to f--k up his team for a crook.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Apr 12, 2019 8:57:01 GMT -5
Prosecutors will recommend the “low end” penalty of $20,000 and 12 months of supervised release for Felicity Huffman after the plea. Is it to stick it to Lori Loughlin and others who didn’t agree to plea, as it was reported Lori didn’t plea because she could not accept any jail time.
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 12, 2019 10:14:39 GMT -5
I want to know which school Olivia Jade will end up. She should be in the transfer portal by now.
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Post by sevb on Apr 13, 2019 11:19:15 GMT -5
To all those anti-Mick know-it-alls who proclaimed that Mick didn't know how to cooperate with the AD chain of command, maybe Haley didn't want to cooperate with what was obviously an effort to f--k up his team for a crook. Heinel fired Mick because he wanted no part of her scheme? Sounds plausible. He has GOT to be loving every meeting with his lawyers...
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Post by sevb on Apr 13, 2019 11:19:51 GMT -5
'Smart guy' Florida test taker pleads guilty in college admissions bribery scandal after he was 'paid $10,000 to secretly take entrance exams' Mark Riddell, 36, pleaded guilty on Friday to secretly taking tests in the college admissions bribery scheme He is charged with conspiracy to commit mail fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering California college admissions adviser William 'Rick' Singer has already pleaded guilty to facilitating the cheating scam Singer allegedly arranged to have Riddell either secretly take SAT and ACT college entrance exams in place of his clients' children or correct their answers Riddell, who worked at IMG Academy in Bradenton, Florida, allegedly received $10,000 for each student's test www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6915523/Smart-guy-Florida-test-taker-plead-guilty-U-S-college-admissions-scandal.htmlHe just messed up "Florida guys" image...
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Post by hammer on Apr 13, 2019 14:08:41 GMT -5
Heinel fired Mick because he wanted no part of her scheme? Sounds plausible. He has GOT to be loving every meeting with his lawyers... Mick's projected haul from his lawsuit is going up, up, up and away in my beautiful balloon ...
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Post by Phaedrus on Apr 13, 2019 14:34:00 GMT -5
Heinel fired Mick because he wanted no part of her scheme? Sounds plausible. The USC athletic Department needs to be cleaned out of all Donna Heinel FLUNKIES. That is a good start, but mpre importantly I think they need to bring someone who is an athletic administrator, who will surround him or herself with seasoned people who has integrity and knows the business of athletics and not another alumni jock or even worse, a clueless MBA type who knows nothing about athletics or business, there are lots of those around, just look around the athletic landscape.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Apr 15, 2019 11:47:55 GMT -5
Lori Loughlin and her husband plead not guilty. apple.news/AdtmMHy92SqenuLkdUOWb1wThat scrolled across my phone and my honest to god first thought was “What a b*tch.”
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