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Post by pepperbrooks on Jan 27, 2020 13:21:02 GMT -5
I really thought there'd be a lot more to come out of this scandal. Wonder if payoffs got bigger and people really started clamming up.
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Post by Michael on Jan 29, 2020 13:30:08 GMT -5
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Post by Phaedrus on Jan 29, 2020 13:46:14 GMT -5
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Post by gobruins on Jan 29, 2020 14:42:12 GMT -5
How convenient that his wife is the school's women's volleyball coach.
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Post by bigfan on Jan 30, 2020 12:15:53 GMT -5
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Post by azvb on Jan 30, 2020 12:49:18 GMT -5
Looks wise, he really married up.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jan 30, 2020 13:09:46 GMT -5
I am sure this was mentioned before, he owned the Mossimo brand from the 90's, he might still own the name. It was one of the top beach VB apparel brands. She married up financially.
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Post by colonial2415 on Feb 4, 2020 8:27:31 GMT -5
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Post by JustInCase on Feb 4, 2020 11:46:51 GMT -5
Why? It's a no name school that doesn't belong to the NCAA or NAIA. It has no rules. It's perfect for both of them.
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Post by colonial2415 on Feb 4, 2020 11:47:58 GMT -5
It's a sense of entitlement. He'll go the rest of his life thinking "the rules don't apply to me."
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Post by pepperbrooks on Feb 4, 2020 11:52:36 GMT -5
It's a sense of entitlement. He'll go the rest of his life thinking "the rules don't apply to me." Bill's case was, I believe, the weakest of all the cases, and I think he still maintains nothing wrong was done. So maybe that's what he believes, or maybe he got swept up in the scandal. I can't really say one way or the other, but I don't feel about him quite the same way I do about most of the other people involved.
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Post by colonial2415 on Feb 4, 2020 12:13:29 GMT -5
It's a sense of entitlement. He'll go the rest of his life thinking "the rules don't apply to me." You do realize he did once coach at USC. Excellent point. But, do you feel that regardless of the athletic entity he should be able to still coach? To continue to educate and motivate young people? He might have been the "weakest" of the people involved, but it was proven that he took 50k to provide false information and lie. "Everyone has a price" is a famous saying, guess his was $50,000.
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Post by bigticket on Feb 4, 2020 17:38:54 GMT -5
Why? It's a no name school that doesn't belong to the NCAA or NAIA. It has no rules. It's perfect for both of them. His wife is the women’s coach
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Post by mikegarrison on Feb 4, 2020 20:34:53 GMT -5
It's a sense of entitlement. He'll go the rest of his life thinking "the rules don't apply to me." Bill's case was, I believe, the weakest of all the cases, and I think he still maintains nothing wrong was done. So maybe that's what he believes, or maybe he got swept up in the scandal. I can't really say one way or the other, but I don't feel about him quite the same way I do about most of the other people involved. There are always edge cases, where right and wrong are more cloudy. The Stanford sailing coach apparently took some some money, spent it directly on the sailing program, and designated two prospective applicants as "sailing recruits". Neither actually completed their application to Stanford. He pled guilty and received a $10000 fine and no prison time. Some have speculated that he might not have been convicted had he contested the case because it would have been hard to have proven that he actually harmed anyone. But he thought he did something wrong, and so did Stanford. Ferguson is alleged to have directed half the money he got to his own volleyball camp. If so, this is clearly accepting a bribe and directing it to his own private interests. I don't see how it is possible to call this "the weakest of all the cases", unless you dispute whether he actually did it. Wake Forest is not a public university, so as I understand it, the standard of proving guilt is more difficult than if he had been a public employee. It might be that he actually can argue that he didn't break the law. But it seems pretty clearly like a conflict of interest between his employer and his personal volleyball camp, at the very least.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Feb 4, 2020 20:43:07 GMT -5
Bill's case was, I believe, the weakest of all the cases, and I think he still maintains nothing wrong was done. So maybe that's what he believes, or maybe he got swept up in the scandal. I can't really say one way or the other, but I don't feel about him quite the same way I do about most of the other people involved. There are always edge cases, where right and wrong are more cloudy. The Stanford sailing coach apparently took some some money, spent it directly on the sailing program, and designated two prospective applicants as "sailing recruits". Neither actually completed their application to Stanford. He pled guilty and received a $10000 fine and no prison time. Some have speculated that he might not have been convicted had he contested the case because it would have been hard to have proven that he actually harmed anyone. But he thought he did something wrong, and so did Stanford. Ferguson is alleged to have directed half the money he got to his own volleyball camp. If so, this is clearly accepting a bribe and directing it to his own private interests. I don't see how it is possible to call this "the weakest of all the cases", unless you dispute whether he actually did it. There’s always the possibility that I don’t know what I’m talking about.
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