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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 0:09:19 GMT -5
It’s just screening. Women should do it more until they’re told by the ref to knock it off. Not screening.
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Post by growthegame25 on Mar 29, 2019 12:02:11 GMT -5
That position allows arms to not get tired but be ready for the quick nature of the mens game. Hand position for some teams is very specific and change quickly. Purely holding them up makes the arms tired and they might drop a fragment of a second leading to a late block. Secondary, it looks to avoid some rocketed jumpserves to the back of the head.
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Post by breakoutsports on Mar 30, 2019 15:58:45 GMT -5
That position allows arms to not get tired but be ready for the quick nature of the mens game. Hand position for some teams is very specific and change quickly. Purely holding them up makes the arms tired and they might drop a fragment of a second leading to a late block. Secondary, it looks to avoid some rocketed jumpserves to the back of the head. If they’re too tired to hold their arms up during the serve, they need to hit the gym! Women hold their arms up during the serve with no complaints about it being exhausting
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Post by Hawk Attack on Mar 31, 2019 3:05:57 GMT -5
That position allows arms to not get tired but be ready for the quick nature of the mens game. Hand position for some teams is very specific and change quickly. Purely holding them up makes the arms tired and they might drop a fragment of a second leading to a late block. Secondary, it looks to avoid some rocketed jumpserves to the back of the head. If they’re too tired to hold their arms up during the serve, they need to hit the gym! Women hold their arms up during the serve with no complaints about it being exhausting It’s clear there are many reasonings as to why this is “important”. The only reason I have ever heard, here and internationally, as to the arms up position is for screening purposes. It’s clear others have heard differently. My guess is it looks good and several people have developed their own “logical” reasons as to why this is good strategy and have passed it down accordingly.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Mar 31, 2019 13:52:11 GMT -5
The only credible answer I’ve ever heard was that it was used as a reminder to keep the hands high.
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Post by growthegame25 on Apr 23, 2019 19:33:21 GMT -5
That position allows arms to not get tired but be ready for the quick nature of the mens game. Hand position for some teams is very specific and change quickly. Purely holding them up makes the arms tired and they might drop a fragment of a second leading to a late block. Secondary, it looks to avoid some rocketed jumpserves to the back of the head. If they’re too tired to hold their arms up during the serve, they need to hit the gym! Women hold their arms up during the serve with no complaints about it being exhausting More of a mental exhaustion and improper position - kind of like a batter who holds his bat on the shoulder until the pitcher takes his stance.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Apr 23, 2019 19:58:49 GMT -5
High for what? Your best jump comes from pumping your arms, not from holding them over your head. Lateral movement is best when your hands start within your core and below your chin. Hawk Attack is right, it is for screening. That's why I did it. That's why my daughter does it. It's why I also raised my arms on the blocks during free throws in basketball and then dropped them as the shooter shot. Not so much to screen in basketball, but to distract. In all those cases the arms are dropped back into a neutral position prior to any movement (blocking footwork or boxing out in basketball). Anybody who doesn't understand screening needs to watch Hawaii Men's volleyball.
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Post by coahc21 on Apr 23, 2019 20:12:57 GMT -5
Head and finger protection....I've seen a concussion from a jump serve to the back of the dome with a far softer hit than what these guys fire in today's game
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Post by coahc21 on Apr 23, 2019 20:15:44 GMT -5
High for what? Your best jump comes from pumping your arms, not from holding them over your head. Lateral movement is best when your hands start within your core and below your chin. Hawk Attack is right, it is for screening. That's why I did it. That's why my daughter does it. It's why I also raised my arms on the blocks during free throws in basketball and then dropped them as the shooter shot. Not so much to screen in basketball, but to distract. In all those cases the arms are dropped back into a neutral position prior to any movement (blocking footwork or boxing out in basketball). Anybody who doesn't understand screening needs to watch Hawaii Men's volleyball. The position they are standing is the screening, not the hands on the heads...if the hands were being used for screening, they would be in the air not on their heads
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Apr 23, 2019 20:50:00 GMT -5
It’s for screening. Plain and simple. Any other answer is just an added benefit or side effect of screening.
PS, some of these answers are hilarious. It’s for screening.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 23, 2019 23:56:59 GMT -5
It’s for screening. Plain and simple. Any other answer is just an added benefit or side effect of screening. PS, some of these answers are hilarious. It’s for screening. Are you absolutely sure it's not practice for being arrested? That did seem like the most likely reason to me.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Apr 24, 2019 8:24:41 GMT -5
High for what? Your best jump comes from pumping your arms, not from holding them over your head. Lateral movement is best when your hands start within your core and below your chin. Hawk Attack is right, it is for screening. That's why I did it. That's why my daughter does it. It's why I also raised my arms on the blocks during free throws in basketball and then dropped them as the shooter shot. Not so much to screen in basketball, but to distract. In all those cases the arms are dropped back into a neutral position prior to any movement (blocking footwork or boxing out in basketball). Anybody who doesn't understand screening needs to watch Hawaii Men's volleyball. But that's really not much of a screen, is it? Is it adding that much?
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Post by coahc21 on Apr 24, 2019 8:57:32 GMT -5
Head and finger protection....I've seen a concussion from a jump serve to the back of the dome with a far softer hit than what these guys fire in today's game I never get this. I played before everybody jump served and I still preferred not to be hit in the back of the head, so I watched the serve. It is a simple thing to mark the hitters and then cock your head to sneak a peak and find the server after the whistle is blown. The hitters aren't magically going anywhere in that time, and knowing the line of the serve early gives you a better idea of where they are going to go in any case. You only turn far enough to just barely see the server, so you aren't turning your back on the play, and you turn back as soon as you read the line on the ball. I don't understand blockers that think it's better to stare down the setter and hitters and be blind to and surprised by the line of the ball. It was never coached, it just made sense so I did it. I was never hit by a serve. Granted, I played with a serving box so it was never a mystery where the serve was coming from. Fair point, I just think the overall philosophy of always being ready needs to be universal in order its application....don't give players any wiggle room to say (maybe even subconsciously), "well I can be relaxed here, must not be too important anywhere else" This is particularly true with younger teams I've coached, give them an inch and they take a mile on the "easy road" Rather than distinguish when it's appropriate to constantly be ready, just make it universal.
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Post by brooselee on Apr 24, 2019 9:30:06 GMT -5
I don’t know Wade’s philosophy on this situation but I don’t think it’s to protect their hands/head and here why. If you watch closely, some of the players dropped their hands even before the server contacted the ball. Some don’t even put their hands on their head. Gasman holds his hands straight up and Cowell sometimes life lock his fingers but form a “triangle” with his arms.
Screening sounds more likely to me.
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Post by coahc21 on Apr 24, 2019 9:32:15 GMT -5
Fair point, I just think the overall philosophy of always being ready needs to be universal in order its application....don't give players any wiggle room to say (maybe even subconsciously), "well I can be relaxed here, must not be too important anywhere else" This is particularly true with younger teams I've coached, give them an inch and they take a mile on the "easy road" Rather than distinguish when it's appropriate to constantly be ready, just make it universal. I pretty strongly disagree with that. The longer you can hold somebody in their ready position before a play, the worse they will perform. That is the constant battle in baseball between a pitcher and a batter. The pitcher tries to make the batter sit in their ready position too long, and the batter backs out. Some of the best batters (Turner comes to mind) have adapted a relaxed position that they can sit in for a long period of time and then can fall right into their intense ready position as the pitcher starts his windup. It is critically important to know when to be in your ready position and not to be in it too long. I know that is a difficult skill to teach, especially at younger ages, and the lack of focus drives coaches crazy. There is a world of difference between losing focus and not being in a ready position (yet), and it is not the easiest thing to teach. Being "ready" does not mean to be in a physically loaded position...it's more a reference to eye work I teach my blockers to be relaxed and then load when the setter is contacting the ball, that isn't to say they shouldn't have constant eye focus on the play
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