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Post by jayj79 on Apr 22, 2019 10:10:43 GMT -5
Or maybe I'm just "evil" Or maybe not entirely right in the head perhaps? I've never once claimed that I was entirely right in the head. Very few people are, I've found.
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Post by jayj79 on Apr 22, 2019 10:14:58 GMT -5
If you reverse the order of the conversations between Dany/John and Dany/Sansa do you get a different outcome instead of the awkward pulling hands do we get a hug instead? doubt it. Sansa would be in the camp that "Jon" (Aegon) is the rightful ruler of the Seven Kingdoms, which would put her and Dany even more at odds.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 22, 2019 10:28:51 GMT -5
If they both survive (not a given), it's a no-brainer that they get married and become co-rulers. The north gets a king that they selected, Dani restores the Targaryens (including herself) to the throne, it's all good.
But it seems more likely that one or the other or both dies during this battle. Probably Jon, because dying to defend Winterfell, the North, his family, and Dani is just exactly something he would do (again). If Dani dies in the battle, then the whole coalition falls apart, because most of them are loyal to her personally and otherwise have no stake in Westeros. So I doubt that would happen with three episodes to go.
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Post by gnu2vball on Apr 22, 2019 10:36:18 GMT -5
Dany does have some rough edges--a little too much self will, perhaps. isn't that the case with every ruler (or want-to-be-ruler) of the Seven Kingdoms? So far. I think Jon could be an exception. He doesn't want it.
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Post by gnu2vball on Apr 22, 2019 10:40:00 GMT -5
One of you geniuses needs to do a "Who Survives Episode 3" poll. I refuse to try. My last poll attempt was an absolute sh*tshow.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 22, 2019 10:40:02 GMT -5
Dany does have some rough edges--a little too much self will, perhaps. isn't that the case with every ruler (or want-to-be-ruler) of the Seven Kingdoms? Fair point, but the line between being ruthless-but-necessary and outright evil is a rather thin line...
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 22, 2019 10:41:17 GMT -5
Or maybe not entirely right in the head perhaps? I've never once claimed that I was entirely right in the head. Very few people are, I've found. Never mind, just so you like GOT, that's all that matters on this thread.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 22, 2019 10:50:06 GMT -5
Could the big twist be that she is the real villian here? After all, her evil side is showing. And why have the big battle in episode 3 and not at or near the end of the series? Is that hinting Dany becoming the real baddie? I don't think there's any doubt that Cersei is the ultimate villain. Dany does have some rough edges--a little too much self will, perhaps. I'm pleased that it looks like the undead issue won't be the last issue to be resolved. The storyline will move to resolve conflicts amongst the living that I find far more interesting. Cersei certainly looks that way for now, but are they setting up Dany, I don't know, for something not what we expect? Another villian? Some titular action she takes that will changes the balance between allied force against Cerse? Adding up to some plot twist. Game of Thrones is known for that.
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Post by jayj79 on Apr 22, 2019 10:56:45 GMT -5
isn't that the case with every ruler (or want-to-be-ruler) of the Seven Kingdoms? Fair point, but the line between being ruthless-but-necessary and outright evil is a rather thin line... I have yet to see any of Dany's actions that I would consider evil. Yes, roasting the Tarlys was a bit ruthless, but there was some strategic justification there, and it isn't anything beyond what any other attempted conqueror of the Kingdoms has done. I have to wonder if some people are overly critical of Dany and her actions because she's a woman, where as if it was a man in the same position, doing the same actions, they'd more readily accept it. (well, the hooking up with Jon part would change a bit of the dynamic, but similar things have already been done by other would-be-kings of Westeros) I think Jon could be an exception. He doesn't want it. then he isn't a ruler or a want-to-be-ruler of the Seven Kingdoms.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 22, 2019 11:14:18 GMT -5
If they both survive (not a given), it's a no-brainer that they get married and become co-rulers. The north gets a king that they selected, Dani restores the Targaryens (including herself) to the throne, it's all good. But it seems more likely that one or the other or both dies during this battle. Probably Jon, because dying to defend Winterfell, the North, his family, and Dani is just exactly something he would do (again). If Dani dies in the battle, then the whole coalition falls apart, because most of them are loyal to her personally and otherwise have no stake in Westeros. So I doubt that would happen with three episodes to go. I would hope the battle would give a little more info about the Night King. The children of the forest created them with a dragon glass to counter men. So far, the king has not muttered a single word. We know his powers to resurrected the dead to become white Walker. But his motivation and goals are mysterious. But there would have be more to know the Night King before the story is nicely wrapped up.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 22, 2019 11:18:00 GMT -5
Fair point, but the line between being ruthless-but-necessary and outright evil is a rather thin line... I have yet to see any of Dany's actions that I would consider evil. Yes, roasting the Tarlys was a bit ruthless, but there was some strategic justification there, and it isn't anything beyond what any other attempted conqueror of the Kingdoms has done. I have to wonder if some people are overly critical of Dany and her actions because she's a woman, where as if it was a man in the same position, doing the same actions, they'd more readily accept it. (well, the hooking up with Jon part would change a bit of the dynamic, but similar things have already been done by other would-be-kings of Westeros) I think Jon could be an exception. He doesn't want it. then he isn't a ruler or a want-to-be-ruler of the Seven Kingdoms. Far from a woman issue, this is more like her family issue. As for evil, well, people say good intentions is the first step to ruin.
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Post by jayj79 on Apr 22, 2019 11:23:07 GMT -5
Far from a woman issue, this is more like her family issue. As for evil, well, people say good intentions is the first step to ruin. so you're every bit as wary of the actions that Jon takes, since he is of the same family?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 11:27:48 GMT -5
Bronn is going to win the Game of Thrones. He's going to get his castle and his highborn beauty, dammit.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 22, 2019 11:33:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 12:12:14 GMT -5
So people seem concerned that everyone thinks the crypt is safe, when it's full of dead people. That's not going to happen, is it? Zombie Starks?
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